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We Have Finally Traced The TRUE Origin Of Muhammad In Islam
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| January28,2026
| EVENTS -&- HISTORY
Posted on 02/09/2026 7:15:40 PM PST by Jonty30
In this eye-opening investigation, we follow the hard evidence to uncover the true origin of Muhammad in early Islamic history. By examining ancient coins, rock inscriptions, Qur’an manuscripts, and non-Islamic historical sources, this video challenges the traditional narrative and asks difficult but necessary questions. Was “Muhammad” originally a personal name—or a title? Why do early inscriptions and coins feature crosses, Greek text, and anti-Trinitarian theology? And why is there a striking silence about Islam and Mecca in the earliest records?
This presentation traces how Islam appears to emerge gradually out of late antique Christian theological conflicts, not overnight. Whether you’re a student of history, theology, or comparative religion, this video will push you to rethink what you thought you knew. Watch carefully—because the evidence tells a very different story.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; History; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: mecca; muhammad
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In a nutshell, Arianism may be responsible for the rise of Islam.
He makes a good case and the video is worth watching by itself.
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:15:40 PM PST
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Jonty30
To: Jonty30
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:24:11 PM PST
by
frog in a pot
(Government recognition of same sex "wives" and same same-sex marriage is an act of child abuse.)
To: Jonty30
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:28:16 PM PST
by
fishtank
(The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
To: fishtank
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:37:35 PM PST
by
Jonty30
(I always ask AI stupid questions to avoid the smart lists for elimination. I want to surprise it.)
To: Jonty30
Satan is responsible for the rise of Islam.
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:40:03 PM PST
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BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: BenLurkin
Ultimately, yes.
However, he can do nothing without cooperation from man.
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:44:49 PM PST
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Jonty30
(I always ask AI stupid questions to avoid the smart lists for elimination. I want to surprise it.)
To: BenLurkin
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:46:00 PM PST
by
No name given
( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
To: Jonty30
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:46:08 PM PST
by
No name given
( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
To: Jonty30
The key point Smith makes is that at the time the Koran was (supposedly) set down, Arabic writing only used consonants - a written indication of vowels (those dots and squiggles above and below the curly-cues) had not yet been invented. So anytime one would see the consonants that are today interpreted as “Mohammed”, it could well be that those consonants actually stood for “Machmed” (or some such word) that was used as a designation for ‘the enlightened one’ (or something related) - a term that could be used for any of a host of individuals, including Christ himself.
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posted on
02/09/2026 7:51:41 PM PST
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Stosh
To: Jonty30
Is this to be published in any academic journals or as a stand-alone book, or will it just appear on YouTube?
To: BusterDog
Would the academic world want it published?
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posted on
02/09/2026 8:16:10 PM PST
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Jonty30
(I always ask AI stupid questions to avoid the smart lists for elimination. I want to surprise it.)
To: Jonty30
Satan’s counterstroke to Jesus’ resurrection - an idolatrous religion that is a mirror image of Christianity that is actually a form of totalitarian government.
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posted on
02/09/2026 8:30:59 PM PST
by
Some Fat Guy in L.A.
(Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
To: Jonty30
Would the academic world want it published? We should ask Salman Rushdie. He's been keeping an eye out for hostile reactions to emerging truths regarding Islam.
(Too soon?)
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posted on
02/09/2026 9:22:07 PM PST
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MikelTackNailer
(The future isn't like I remembered it to be.)
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
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posted on
02/09/2026 9:22:48 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
To: Jonty30
And then there is that generic Islamofascist made famous by El Rush-Bo:
Kareem Abdul Skyhook
To: Jonty30
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posted on
02/09/2026 9:36:45 PM PST
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sauropod
To: Jonty30
To: Jonty30

Video Transcript Summary
The transcript is a presentation (likely by Dr. Jay Smith or a similar figure associated with PfanderFilms) arguing that the traditional account of Islam's origins in the 7th century—centered on a prophet named Muhammad from Mecca who received the Quran—lacks direct contemporary evidence and emerged much later.
Key points raised include:
- Early Quranic manuscripts (e.g., those in the British Library, Samarkand/Tashkent, Paris, and Sana'a/Yemen) from the 7th–8th centuries are consonantal texts (rasm) without diacritical dots or vowel marks (fatha, kasra, damma). These were added later (mainly 8th–9th centuries), so words like MHMD cannot be definitively read as the personal name "Muhammad" in those texts. The speaker claims no "Muhammad" appears in the earliest copies.
- MHMD (the four consonants م ح م د) is interpreted as a title meaning "the praised one," "the blessed one," "the anointed one," or even linked to messianic concepts (e.g., "Messiah" in some contexts). It predates Islam: used in Ugaritic (c. 1400 BCE), Hebrew Bible (e.g., Song of Solomon 5:16 as "machmad," "altogether lovely"), Syriac Christian texts (from the 4th century, applied to Jesus as the awaited Messiah), and Jewish exilarch titles in the 7th century.
- Coins from the 7th century (e.g., under Muawiya, 661–680 CE) show crosses, Byzantine-style imagery, and MHMD (sometimes under a cross), interpreted as referring to Jesus or a Christian/messianic figure, not an Arabian prophet. No Islamic symbols (e.g., crescent) or references to a new religion appear. Mints are northern (Syria, Persia regions), not in Mecca/Medina, attributed to lack of water/commerce in the Hijaz.
- The first clear Shahada ("There is no god but God, and Muhammad is His messenger") appears on coins under Abd al-Malik (c. 685–705 CE, especially post-691 reforms), seen as an anti-Trinitarian polemic against Byzantine Christianity (e.g., "say not three," attacking the Trinity and Jesus' divinity/sonship). Dome of the Rock inscriptions (691 CE) echo this, with Quranic-like phrases but not identical to today's Quran, targeting Christians.
- Rock inscriptions show no distinctly Islamic content before ~690 CE; Muslim rites (pilgrimage, prayer, fasting) emerge ~710–720 CE; terms "Muslim" and "Islam" as a distinct group appear ~720–730 CE.
- Quranic references to MHMD occur only four times (Surahs 3:144, 33:40, 47:2, 48:29), far fewer than mentions of Moses (136x), Jesus (93x), Abraham (79x), etc. These are read as possibly referring to a title (e.g., for Jesus or any prophet), not a specific 7th-century Meccan figure.
- 7th-century non-Muslim sources mentioning MHMD (or variants) place the figure(s) in northern regions (Syria, Iraq, Palestine), not Arabia, often as a warrior/leader of "Saracens" or "Ishmaelites," sometimes allied with Jews against Byzantines. Examples include Thomas the Presbyter (634 CE), Sebeos (660s), and others; none match the full traditional biography (Mecca/Medina origin, Quran revelation, death 632 CE).
- Overall claim: Islam as a distinct religion (with Mecca, a named prophet Muhammad from there, and the Quran as we know it) developed gradually from late antique Christian/Jewish sectarian debates (especially anti-Trinitarian strands), crystallizing in the late 7th–8th centuries under Umayyads (e.g., Abd al-Malik) and fully under Abbasids (8th–10th centuries). The traditional narrative (from Ibn Hisham's Sira, hadith collections like Bukhari/Muslim) is dated centuries later (9th–10th centuries onward), with no full biography until modern editions (e.g., Wüstenfeld's 1860s compilation).
The presentation frames this as evidence-based history challenging the "standard Islamic narrative," emphasizing physical artifacts (coins, inscriptions, manuscripts) over later texts, and concluding that the traditional story "arrives far later than the evidence it claims to explain." It ends with repeated affirmations of "Jesus is Lord."
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posted on
02/09/2026 10:13:05 PM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Democracy dies with Democrats.)
To: Jonty30
Thats not true. He can do quite a bit without man involved in it.
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posted on
02/09/2026 10:31:37 PM PST
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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