Posted on 02/26/2023 11:29:26 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
Is Asbury a True Revival?
Originally written over 6 years ago, I felt compelled to bring this article out once again. The deception and heretical movements of these end times are so far from the truth of the Word of God, it makes a person wonder how the followers can be so deceived and gullible.
But wonder as we may, Jesus did warn about the coming deception:
“And Jesus answered and said to them: ‘Take heed that no one deceives you'” (Matthew 24:4).
“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand” (Matthew 24:23-25).
At the end of this piece, I will address the Asbury “Revival,” not with my own words but with the words of a solid brother in Christ who is also a gifted writer.
Here is the original article from 2017:
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (2 Timothy 4:3-4).
As I look around today, I see this passage of Scripture so clearly coming to pass. Perhaps there have always been many with itching ears, but I think that it is much worse in these last days. Are these people truly saved? How can they be so deceived? Did they attempt to come to God via the well-traveled road and very wide gate that God warns us to avoid? How can someone who has the Holy Spirit living within them want their ears to be tickled with heresies? Where is the discernment?
It makes no sense.
When I was drawn by the Lord in 1983, it was a powerful and supernatural event. I had searched for the truth about God for most of my life. On that unforgettable night, He opened my eyes and my heart, and I remember saying to the person sharing salvation with me, “This is it. It’s so clear to me now!”
I am not saying that we all have to have a dramatic two-feet-off-the-floor experience. But I do believe that it should be a memorable time when a person finally realizes that he/she is a wretched sinner – unable to save themselves and that God is HOLY, and HE does the saving.
Our Need for the Word of God
Another thing I remember is that I could not get enough of His Word. I would forget to eat food because I was immersed in His Word and could hardly break away from it. I was told to start with the Gospel of John, and I did. Then I went through all four gospels. His Holy Word became the most important thing in my life.
I knew that when I went to church, I should be hearing about sin and repentance. It was ALL about Jesus and Him crucified and the love that sent Him to that cross. I yearned to hear a preacher open up the Word to me in a deeper way. The couple who had led me to the Lord was charismatic, so I went to my first church with them.
Where Was Preaching About Sin and Repentance?
I was brand new in Christ, but I still knew that the sermons I was hearing were leaving me empty. One Sunday night, I saw Charles Stanley preaching on TV, and I considered him a gift from Jesus at that time of my walk with Him. When he preached, he backed everything up with Scripture. He spoke of sin and repenting and growing in Christ. I considered him to be my pastor in those early years.
Wolves in the Pulpit
The heretical pastors with mega-churches need itching ears to stay in business. I call it a business because that is what it is. When I see Joel Osteen and his lovely wife (she is pretty) standing up in front of 30,000 fans, telling them that God just wants them to be happy, happy, happy – it makes me sad, and it makes me sick.
WHERE does it say in God’s Word that He just wants us to be happy? But the tithes are paid and the ears tickled, and everyone seems satisfied. But my Bible says that we will also have tribulation in this life (John 16:33).
The Word of Faith preachers love the itching ears. They preach that if their members will give sacrificially, God will surely pour out financial blessings upon them – two and threefold. So the little old lady who is on Medicare gives Kenneth Copeland her last twenty dollars and goes without food for a week – but she is still waiting for that magical payment from heaven. It makes me want to SCREAM!
Are these people saved but extremely shallow and immature? Or is it possible that they never were saved in the first place? I can’t make that call, but it distresses me greatly to watch people who name the name of Jesus as their Savior following after false teachers who preach a different gospel.
I do know that the false teachers will be judged harshly.
James 3:1 clearly states it:
“My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.”
Be a Berean:
“And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so” (Acts 17:10-11).
I pray that many eyes will be opened to the truth of the Word of God and that they will see that they are being taught heresies.
WAKE UP!
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Let’s take a look at the “Revival at Asbury Church.”
Some are saying that this is indeed a revival sent by God. Some are being cautious and are taking a ‘Wait and see’ stance.
Others are declaring that this is not a true revival sent by God, that it was orchestrated by men and women. They are saying that there are many Biblical truths that are being ignored, i.e., Repentance and declaring that Salvation is only attained by trusting in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Instead of me writing about my take on this – I have decided to post a most eloquent and comprehensive writing from a brother in Christ. John Haller shared this today on his Bible Prophecy Update. I decided that I would present this brother’s writing and let the readers ask the Lord to open their eyes to the truth about Asbury church.
Is the Asbury Revival a Real Revival? by Samuel Sey
Fromslowtowrite.com I’ve been to more “revivals” than I can count. I grew up in churches where “revivals” were the norm, not the exception.
I actually became a Christian during a “revival” at a youth retreat. After a weekend of preaching, “prophecies,” prayers, and “casting out demons,” most of the people at the youth retreat accepted the altar call, repeated the sinner’s prayer, and made professions of faith in Christ.
Within weeks, however, the vast majority of the people who professed faith in Christ had returned to unrepentant sin. So I’ve seen firsthand how emphasis on “revivals” instead of repentance harms so many.
It’s with that in mind and the authority of the Bible that I hesitate to call what is happening at Asbury University a “revival.”
That hesitancy, however, is offensive to people who seem to think it’s Satan, not God, who said:
“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1-2).
Over the past week, seemingly anyone who shares any caution or concern over some of what’s happening at Asbury University is immediately labeled a “Pharisee,” a “Doubting Thomas,” a blasphemer, and other silly accusations by people who hypocritically attack their brothers and sisters in the name of defending brothers and sisters at Asbury University.
In some ways, just as woke Christians weaponized the George Floyd incident to pressure some Christians into accepting their definition of racism—some Charismatic Christians are trying to weaponize the Asbury “revival” to pressure others into accepting their definition of a revival.
But whether it’s Charismatic Christians or woke people—anyone who demands only submission or silence on their opinions over debatable issues isn’t operating in love.
Love does not insist on its own way. Godly people try to persuade others who disagree with them. Ungodly people, however, try to pressure others who disagree with them.
Nevertheless, the Asbury “revival” started after a 10 am chapel service last week, Wednesday, when a group of about 20 students and the worship team said they felt prompted by the Holy Spirit to continue worship past the end of the chapel service.
According to one of the students I talked to, a few hours later, the president of the seminary sent an email to the students encouraging them to visit the chapel to join the 20 students on what he described as an outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Apparently, 200 students arrived for worship at the chapel soon after, and there has been non-stop worship ever since.
The student maintains the “revival” wasn’t planned. But it’s worth noting that Asbury University is part of what is known as the revivalist movement—a group of Charismatic Christians who consistently attempt to produce revivals.
This is why the university’s website says:
“Asbury University has been known through the years for its history of great revivals. There have been several occasions when significant moves of the Holy Spirit have swept the campus and reached across the nation.”
In fact, besides this current “revival,” Asbury claims they’ve had 8 revivals.
I’ve talked to current students, recent graduates, and several people who’ve visited the chapel to experience the “revival,” and there are unquestionably several reasons why we should be concerned.
Though one student says the gospel has been consistently and explicitly preached since the beginning of the “revival,” others contradict that claim. In fact, one former student who was at the chapel this week told me he rarely, if ever, heard a clear presentation of the gospel at the school.
Another student said: “Attending the few chapels I have at seminary, apart from one [or] two chapels that preach a biblical message of repentance, it’s always been about ‘being who you are’ and God loving you ‘as you are.’ There are a lot of messages that are about being ‘true to yourself.'”
I’ve watched hundreds of videos of the “revival,” and I still haven’t seen any clips showing a clear preaching of the gospel. Of course, that isn’t evidence that people aren’t preaching the gospel.
Still, progressive Christians like Tim Whitaker at The New Evangelicals have essentially endorsed the “revival” after his visits to the chapel this week. Moreover, he says LGBTQ students at the school told him the university protects them from “conversion therapy.” According to Whitaker, the LGBTQ students who were “worshipping” at the chapel also say they’re especially hopeful the “revival” will create (progressive) change at the school.
That lines up with what one student said to me: “Unfortunately, I have first-account experience and conversations with people who are attending and speaking on the ‘greatness’ of revival who are actively living in sin (to be blunt).”
Furthermore, some of the preachers at the chapel are women. And there are also several people “prophesying,” speaking in tongues, “casting out demons,” and “faith healing” at the chapel.
So with that said, is the Asbury “revival” a real revival?
Because of the seemingly little or no gospel preaching, the female pastors, [and] the disorderly and charismatic chaos, I’m inclined to say “no.”
But in a sense, whether I think it’s a revival or not doesn’t really matter, anyway. The word “revival” isn’t a biblical term.
Bombs away with regard to Asbury...
Where Was Preaching About Sin and Repentance?
What will happen to you if you preach it?
hint, nobody will like you or worse......................
So with that said, is the Asbury “revival” a real revival?
That is usually the standard respond from the sheeple.
They always throw stones at those who preach about sin and repentance.
I don’t know if Asbury is a “true” revival, but this declaration that it is not contains enough faulty reasoning, innuendo, misapplication of scripture, and assumptions to destroy its credibility. Watching the live stream, I didn’t see anything that disturbed me as a Christian. As for the absence of the salvation message, the author himself states that he doesn’t know for sure that it wasn’t preached. Did Jesus preach a salvation message everywhere he went? Did the apostles? Did the disciples? Did every church in America? Oh, I know - the Christian ones did. Lots of 1:1 ministry was going on at the altar during these meetings. If someone wasn’t saved, I’d be willing to assume that the message of salvation was given to them. I saw several statements regarding the numbers of people who gave their life to the Lord during these meetings.
Female “pastors” doesn’t disturb you?
Charismatic chaos doesn’t disturb you? - Remember the “laughing revival”?
In these last days, there’s enough disagreement among the Remnant Church to fill congress over thousands of times.
The last sentence is the weakest argument. “Trinity” and “monotheism” isn’t in the Bible either, but the concept is there.
But revival has a clear pattern. Asbury isn’t it. If the Spirit of God came down, that self-proclaiming homosexual Elijah on the Asbury worship team would have become unglued (as well as everyone else), for sin and REPENTED.
Then look up the doctrine of the New Apostolic Revolution (NAR), and its links with Asbury and associated speakers. It is more demonic than Mormons and JWs....because they hide their associations in darkness (John 1).
https://safeguardyoursoul.com/whats-really-going-on-at-asbury/
Appreciate the link.
I was on the fence about Asbury for about a week. I’m inclined to say this ain’t a revival and more of a distraction.
The NAR is a deadly message.
The student maintains the “revival” wasn’t planned. But it’s worth noting that Asbury University is part of what is known as the revivalist movement—a group of Charismatic Christians who consistently attempt to produce revivals.
But remember God is in everything. He may be speaking to a small remnant in the group, planting seeds. If this isn’t real, then a few might ask the question, where is the real God?
It is our job to follow-up this thing with REAL DISCIPLESHIP.
Now we have the question, What is real discipleship?
We can’t give what we don’t have.
I’m not going to get into a debate here, but just to respond briefly to your points: while I was watching the livestream, I did not observe female pastors, charismatic chaos, or a laughing revival. I saw nothing that gave me pause from a Biblical point of view. While watching the livestream, I did tune into several video commentaries of religious people trying every strategy they could to deny that this could actually be a move of God’s Holy Spirit. I think that whenever the Spirit moves and does something different, there are critics waiting in the wings with their formulas and arguments for why this couldn’t possibly be God.
I want to reiterate that I’m not declaring for sure that I know that this is a revival. Just that I find this particular response (including your own) completely unconvincing for the reasons I described.
There are a few links out there, people are starting to examine it for what it is. Others, well.....emotions are a heck of a drug.
For my money, NAR is the biggest threat to the church today. Once new “apostles” are entertained in the church.....that opens the door to extra-biblical revelation. And there is a curse for that.
I would highly encourage everyone to formulate their response and opinion on this so-called revival by digging in deep for the truth.
Asbury isn’t what it once was.
The measure should always be Scripture and how far the message strays from it for a person to decide.
NAR is pretty deadly. I’m not sure I agree it’s the biggest threat to the church, but it’s up there for sure.
Follow the link in Salvavidas post. It gives more details
If the women were stepping up preaching repentance and turn away from sin.. maybe. The problem is that there’s a huge vacuum where strong biblical preaching men should be. Most male preachers are narcissistic and worldly, emotionally immature and bullies. They almost act like women should be worshipping them, not so much Jesus and that God made it ok for them to lust but not for women and homosexuals. You can see how left would eat that up and use it to further destroy the church…. I was watching RC Sproul video from the early 90’s and he was yelling at how bad evangelicals were destroying the churches. Now it’s nearly complete. We need God’s intervention to clean out the churches if we are to go on. One thing Sproul said that stood out is that thiscountry replaced thinking for feelings. And that’s what led to today’s problems.
Demonic looking. I’ve seen him used by left wingers to mock Christians.
He makes Christianity look absurd with his association. He is a successful televangelist (I cannot understand why) when his antics are transparently secular and money driven. He will have a lot to answer for come Judgment time.
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