Skip to comments.Pope Disses Trads
Posted on 02/07/2021 5:39:13 PM PST by ebb tide
The Pope is again speaking out against traditional Catholics. In a meeting with American journalists Monday, Francis claimed U.S. Catholicism is thriving — but referred to traditional Catholics as a problem.
Pope Francis: "It's a living Church, alive, alive. There are perhaps traditionalist groups in the United States, but they are here in the Vatican, too."
Despite the Holy Father's remarks, evidence shows traditionalist Catholics — those loyal to the Traditional Latin Mass — are likely a vital part of the Church's future.
Traditionalists follow Church teaching at much higher rates than U.S. Catholics in general, according to a 2018 survey. For instance, 98% of Latin Mass attendees believe contraception is immoral, in contrast with only 11% of U.S. Catholics at large.
The same trend plays out with other subjects in Catholic morality (like abortion and homosexuality). Traditionalist laity also tend to give generously to their parish and have a high fertility rate. The Traditional Latin Mass, also known as the Extraordinary Form, is the Roman rite as offered prior to liturgical changes that came after Vatican II.
It's sometimes called the Tridentine Mass, after the 16th-century Council of Trent, which codified many of the precise details in the Liturgy.
In 2007, Pope Benedict XVI increased access to the Traditional Latin Mass with a document titled Summorum Pontificum. He stated the old form was never officially prohibited, meaning any priest can say the Latin Mass if he knows how to do it — no special permission needed.
Over the years, faithful devoted to the Extraordinary Form have often dealt with pushback from their local bishop, even after Summorum Pontificum.
The recent comments from Pope Francis reflect the same animosity for traditionalists found in many other parts of the Catholic hierarchy.
Traditional American Catholics should free themselves from the heretics and apostates of Europe.
Is a ‘living Church’ sorta like a ‘living Constitution’ - meaning you can change it any time you want, because, you know, it ‘evolves’....?
Satan hates traditional Christianity as well.
Joe biden is pope frankies kind of Catholic..He’s alive,alive alive as opposed to the conservative deadwood in the church...I still say Frankie is an anti catholic put there to destroy the church from within...If he had been a true catholic he would know that was impossible and Jesus will be with His bride until the end...
Dope Frank hates real Catholics and Catholicism. Film at 11.
Well, it’s a two way street, and this Traditional Catholic believes that Jorge Bergoglio is a disaster as Pope just as he was a disaster as Archbishop of Buenos Aires. Show me your friends, and I will tell you what you are. All one needs to do is look at those with whom Bergoglio associates with and appoints to high positions, one being Cupich.
Well, I’d disagree that Joe is ‘alive, alive, alive’. I think he’s on the cognitive off-ramp, and a puppet of far more canny people.
And while I don’t like to mix religion and politics, which are two different realms, I believe that the directions of Jesus - and the Constitution of the US - are both very sensible to anyone who can read them. And I believe that they are written in Stone as the most enlightened and ‘progressive’ instruction we’ve received to date in either of those realms.
Pope Soros will burn in Hell.
The church dies, parishes are being merged across Chicago. My mother’s is gone in June or July along with her job. Merged with another Church that isn’t even the closest one, or the 2nd closest. Expensive land, it will become condos I’m sure.
Money and young men’s asses are all that matter to Frank and his minions.
I will wear my traditional Catholic values and faith as a badge of honor to this apostate Pope!
He makes me ill !!!
Does pope believe the living Church always “alive, alive” or only since V2?
Pope Syncretism the First.
I got reprimanded by the deacon in the middle of a daily Mass in front of about 150 people for not wearing a mask. Then he said, "And to all of you who want to receive on the tongue you will have to line up at the back of the Church after Mass."
That is not communion, that is being ostracized.
“Money and young men’s asses are all that matter to Frank and his minions.”
Bergoglio any day now will make the liberal, anti-life, pro homosexual Blase Cupich the Prefect of the Congregation of Bishops. He’ll be responsible for selecting all bishops in the world. Cupich is a disaster as a Catholic. But, he’s the kind of fraud that Bergoglio wants to help him destroy the church.
Cupich made archbishop of Chicago on the recommendation of the serial homosexual sexual predator McCarrick. But that’s fine with Bergoglio because he condoned McCarrick’s sexual abuse and covered up for him for years,
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