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Delusions of Evolution
FreeRepublic ^ | 10/25/20 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 10/26/2020 6:36:10 AM PDT by OneVike



br />It is with out a doubt that a majority of Americans still believe “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” Genesis 1:1. Unfortunately, most who believe these words cannot answer the questions raised by the thousands of fossils that archeologist's have dug up and claim are millions of years old.

 We are told that such methods as Radiocarbon tests to find the levels of Carbon-14 remaining in fossils, U-Pb dating of volcanic materials to determine how long ago lava cooled, helioseismic dating to get a helium diffusion age in the field of astrophysics, and many more scientific fields and the methods they use can baffle the minds of even the most educated believers of God. 

Sadly, depending on what poll you read, this vast amount of technology has convinced 30% to 40% of believers that God must have used evolution in His creative process.

However, what if I told you that many scientists, archaeologists, biochemists, physicists, micro biologists, and astronomers disagree with most of the findings and conclusions by today's evolutionist experts? Some of these men even go so far as to challenge the very idea that the universe is billions of years old. It is important to remember that the age of the universe is directly related to the science used to convince people of the age of planet earth.

Other then a few probes and the space station we cannot physically investigate anything but earth and maybe some small samples from the moon and what asteroids have hit the earth. All the evidence we have for the age of the universe is tied directly to their theory of the earth's age. So if the earth is proven to be young, then the evidence for an old universe crumbles. Then, along with the age of the universe crumbling, so does the possibility of evolution. Now, that is where these many learned men come in to the picture. These scientists have presented so much evidence that points to intelligent design, that they have put into question the very methods used by evolutionists.

Astronomer Guillermo Gonzalez and his collaborators have created the concept of the Galactic Habitable Zone  (GHZ). The GHZ defines the region of the Milky Way Galaxy that is most habitable to complex life. His concept involves a number of situations that must exist for life to occur. When taken into account we see that we are not only unique but special in our planets ability to sustain life and to discover what is in the universe. Gonzalez's investigation has proven that Carl Sagan was wrong when he said there are millions of other earths full of life like ours.

What Physicist Dr. Russell Humphreys, has done is taken those who base their theories of age on helioseismic testing to task. After repeatedly ran experiments that measure how rapidly nuclear-decay-generated helium escapes from tiny radioactive crystals in granite-like rock. The data shows that most of the helium generated by nuclear decay would have escaped during the alleged 1.5 billion year uniformitarian2 age of the rock, and there would be very little helium in the crystals today. But the crystals still retain large amounts of helium, amounts these experiments show are entirely consistent with an age of only thousands of years.

Then we have biochemist Michael Behe,  author of “Darwin's Black Box” who points out that molecular machines, such as the bacterial flagellum are irreducibly complex. Like a mouse trap that can not function without all the parts available to work at the same time, so to do the machines at the molecular level of cells. This irreducible complexity discounts minute changes that needs to be done for evolution to work.

Add to them such scientists as nuclear physicist Robert Gentry, geophysicist John R. Baumgardner, and many other highly educated scientists and professors from a vast array of fields that have evidence the earth is either not millions of years old or that evolution is a bad theory at best? All these men have another thing in common besides their work that proves a God created us and everything we see. They have all at one time or another been persecuted and attacked for there stance by secular academia and the media.

Now it is very understandable that they would get heated debates about there findings, but to be targeted and threatened with the loss of their very livelihood, reminds one of what the church did to Galileo for daring to say the earth revolves around the sun. Like the many scientists and experts who come out against the idea that global warming is caused by man, these men should be hailed as heroes. If, for no other reason then they dare to question the modern day evolutionists I call, “The Flat Earthers”.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: creation; darwin; evolution; god
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It's often times said that when you don't believe in the ONE true GOD, you will believe in anything.

Like many things in the World, those who promote evolution refuse to even consider the vast proof that an intelligent Creator designed the Universe and created man.

1 posted on 10/26/2020 6:36:10 AM PDT by OneVike
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To: OneVike

“the age of the universe is directly related to the science used to convince people of the age of planet earth”

If you can make up the measuring stick, you can make up the total. Just about every foolishness of the left follows the same pattern.

The good thing? G-d believes in you, even if you don’t believe in Him.


2 posted on 10/26/2020 6:48:14 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: OneVike

They are also finding carbon 14 in diamonds. To find any carbon 14 in diamonds puts the age at 90 thousand years or less. Or the q.1 billion years old typically as drive to them.


3 posted on 10/26/2020 6:49:04 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: OneVike

It also depends on how you define evolution. Do I believe God uses natural selection to preserve biological kinds in a volatile environment? Absolutely. Do I believe this is a result of random mutation? No way. All useful genetic information that exists or ever will exist has been there from the beginning.


4 posted on 10/26/2020 6:58:15 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: D Rider

The belief that life evolved from nothing is absurd.....this theory was hatched up as a challenge to Creationism. The truth is if you believe in spontaneous life ...you believe that at some point in time a rock came to life. One physicist when confronted with the fact that the chances of that happening was well witin being mathematically impossible responded “never the less that’s what I believe”.


5 posted on 10/26/2020 6:59:27 AM PDT by ontap
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To: D Rider

I watched a documentary where a scientist made a diamond out of coal. He used a machine that put the coal under tremendous pressure in a vacuum.

Since he didn’t live 90 thousand years I would guess a diamond made by GOD could make some in a nanosecond if not much sooner.


6 posted on 10/26/2020 6:59:33 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: circlecity
And I, an old earth creationist, don’t believe God used what some call Theistic Evolution. I believe the archaeological record has too many occurrences of new species and even new phyla appearing too suddenly for natural evolution (whether or not it was at God’s hand in the beginning). I believe there’s a ton of evidence saying that God was involved in creating new species. (For reference look up Cambrian Explosion, where about half of all known phyla sprang up in the archaeological record about 500 million years ago, but did it in about a million years —- way too suddenly for natural selection).

I didn’t type this as a you’re-wrong-I’m-right kind of post. Just respectfully agreeing with your overall premise that we can be committed Bible believing Christians and disagree on things about what the details in Genesis 1 and 2 say.

7 posted on 10/26/2020 7:14:40 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ontap

One of the strange things about what we have discovered in the past 40 years is that the story of the creation and flood is consistent with what we are discovering through science. In fact, there is more proof for his excitance and the truth of his word and message than anytime in history. Which has led to say it no longer takes faith in the bible. (Of course, it is impossible to please God without faith.)


8 posted on 10/26/2020 7:22:04 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: D Rider

How else does one explain sea shells on mountain tops!!!


9 posted on 10/26/2020 7:27:54 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Tell It Right

I don’t see where anything in your post contradicts a thing I posted.


10 posted on 10/26/2020 7:28:01 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: ontap

Or no erosion between layers of sedimentary rock.


11 posted on 10/26/2020 7:33:31 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Tell It Right

Well arguing about details vs arguing about plain text is indeed two different things. If you ignore plain text to allow for details you have already chosen to walk down the wrong road.

I tell my wife all the time to spend her thoughts on how good things can happen not how bad things can happen. It applys to this issue. If you ignore that God built this all in 6 days, you spend countless hours studying things that sre not trying to find how they could be. Wouldn’t it be far more productive studying how things that are could be?

I as a Bibilical creationist see the pre Cambrian evolutionary theory as a silly filing error. Noah’s event piled up so many tiny fossils of a type in one spot so that they were impossible to ignore’ so we discovered them.

It was also obvious that in nature so many of one type of life form in one spot would have exhausted the local ecology to limit the reproduction rate to make such teeming masses impossible. Kinda obvious that some event gathered them. But we did not discover that. Even when bird fossils were found gathered inside the snail piles.

There is none so blind as those who refuse to see’ and none so find who insist on searching in the wrong place.

A point my wife trys to make for me...


12 posted on 10/26/2020 7:55:10 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Tell It Right

I’m with you. As a computer programmer, I can see God reusing DNA “code” to genetically engineer new species that, while bearing some resemblance to prior species, is not related by descendancy. That is why you get an infinite number of “from a common ancestor” species but no proven direct ancestries, not even recent ones. The evolutionary tree is all leaves and no trunk or branches.

God was never in a hurry.

Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


13 posted on 10/26/2020 8:02:26 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: OneVike

Two of the best books dismantling Darwinian evolution are “Darwin’s Doubt” and “Signature in the Cell” both by Stephen Meyer.


14 posted on 10/26/2020 8:08:59 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: American in Israel

>If you ignore plain text
>If you ignore that God built this all in 6 days

Is it that plain?

Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

1 John 1:5 ...God is light...

According to Einstein’s relativity, all time happens at once for light (photons), literally explaining the first two verses above. It can still hold even if “light” in 1 John is meant as a metaphor to be telling you something about the nature of God.


15 posted on 10/26/2020 8:16:52 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: OneVike
They have all at one time or another been persecuted and attacked for there stance by secular academia and the media.

Having it pointed out that your premises are flawed or your science is shoddy isn't persecution, but I guess there's a reason they call it a Christ Complex.

16 posted on 10/26/2020 8:21:23 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Tell It Right

I am also very much a an old earth creationist.
I find it baffling that people exclude the possibility of the existence of humanity throughout prehistoric earth based on the lack of fossil evidence. Just because we don’t see a thing doesn’t mean the thing did not exist. We know, for example, of the existence of the Denisovan based on one bone and distinct DNA markers in their modern human descendants. Without that one bone, the Denisovan never existed in the eyes of modern science.

To buttress that argument I found the following: T. rex is one of the best represented extinct dinosaurs, with more than 20 fossil individuals identified.

Twenty, out of how many thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of individuals throughout the Cretaceous? And these are non-sentient creatures without end of life ceremonies that might have obliterated the remains. These creatures lived in specific habitats where the remains were preserved.

I think we (humans) have been here a very long time indeed. We have known our cousins and watched them fade and disappear. (Denisovan, Neanderthal, etc...) and likely had names for them that would translate out as dwarf, gnome, elf, etc...

Too often it is assumed that our ancestors were stupid and brutish. Some think they must have been animals. I think they were us minus the technology. Our very rich mythology and shared fiction teaches us of dragons and other fantastic creatures in ways that are almost culturally universal. We have, I believe, witnessed much more of the earth’s history than we are given credit.


17 posted on 10/26/2020 8:59:34 AM PDT by Outlaw76 (Free Men don't ask permission.)
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To: circlecity
I heard an amazing analogy many years ago. It goes like this: Suppose we landed on the moon (or some planet) and found a wristwatch lying there. Our scientists would say that some intelligent life form had obviously created it.

However, if that watch was found on the arm of a human being, those very same scientists would deny that an intelligent creator was involved!
18 posted on 10/26/2020 9:00:45 AM PDT by systemjim (Lifetime Lover of Music)
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To: OneVike

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19 posted on 10/26/2020 9:15:53 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; American in Israel
God, Himself, is the Creator of time and is unconstrained by the physical attributes of His Creation. This is the simple meaning of Psalm 90:4 and 1 Peter 3:8.

Time is the first Creation by God. "In the beginning ...." is a statement of time. God created and defined the time interval for night and day with respect to the Earth-time as 24-hours on Day 1, "And the evening and the morning were the first day."

Jesus Christ -- the Creator (John 1:1-5) and the Light of the World (John 8:12) by his own personal presence defined the 24-hour time period marked in Days 1-3. God created the physical timepieces for marking this 24-hour time interval on Day 4 with the creation of the sun, moon, and stars for this stated purpose in Genesis 1.

The sabbath day expected to be observed by mankind is also defined by evening and morning, particularly in Jewish practice. The Creation was accomplished in six, consecutive, 24-days, as Genesis declares and the 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments declares, "For in six days the Lord made Heaven and the Earth, the sea and all that in them is" (Exodus 20:11). The seventh day is the Sabbath day, as taken by God, and as expected to be observed by man. That is a statement of fact made in the issuance of law by God Himself, who wrote the text with His own finger (Exodus 31:17 & 18).

Could God have chosen to take millions of years to create the heavens and the earth? Sure. That was certainly within His power to do so, but He tells us quite literally and with the force of law to restate the fact, that He made the Heavens and the Earth in six, literal and consecutive Earth-time days with which the common man -- who was the one expected to understand and follow His law, was intimately and experientially familar.

To read it otherwise is read one's preference into Scripture, not to read what is God's clear statement of fact and law in Scripture.

FReegards!

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20 posted on 10/26/2020 9:38:01 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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