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What Is the Wrath of God?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-16-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/17/2019 8:24:14 AM PDT by Salvation

Posted on October 16, 2019October 16, 2019 by Msgr. Charles Pope

What Is the Wrath of God?

In Tuesday’s Mass there was a reference to the wrath of God: The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness (Romans 1:18).

What is God’s wrath? It is spoken of often in Scripture but is a concept with which we must be careful. On the one hand, we cannot simply dismiss it as contrary to the fact that God is love, but on the other, we cannot deny that God’s wrath is unfit in terms of His love.

Let’s consider some aspects of the complex reality of the wrath of God. There is not enough space to cover the topic fully in a single post, so I welcome your additions and subtractions in the comments section, as always.

The wrath of God is not merely an Old Testament concept. In fact, it is mentioned quite frequently in the New Testament as well. Here are a few of the many New Testament passages:

Clearly, the “wrath of God” is not some ancient or primitive concept with which the New Testament has dispensed. Notice also that the wrath of God is not something reserved for the end of the world; it is spoken of as already operative in certain people.

What is God’s wrath, and how can we reconcile it with His love? Consider these explanations. Taken together, they can lead us to an overall understanding.

God’s wrath is His passion to set things right. We see an example of this right at the beginning, in Genesis, when God cursed Satan and uttered the protoevangelium: I will make you and the woman enemies … one of her seed will crush your head while you strike at his heel (Genesis 3:15). God is clearly angered at what sin has done to Adam and Eve, and He continues to have anger whenever He beholds sin and injustice. He has a passion for our holiness. He wants what is best for us and is angered by what hinders this. All sins provoke His wrath, but there are five that especially cry out to Heaven for vengeance: willful murder (Gen 4:10), the sin of the Sodomites (Gen 18:20, 19:13), the cry of the oppressed (Exodus 3:7-10); the cry of the foreigner, the widow, and the orphan (Ex 20:20-22), and injustice to the wage earner (Deuteronomy 24:14-5, James 5:4, Catechism of the Catholic Church # 1867). In terms of sin, injustice, and anything that hinders the possibility of salvation, God has a wrathful indignation and a passion to set things right. This is part of His love for us. His wrath may be manifested through punishment, disturbance of our conscience, or simply by allowing us to experience the consequences of our sin.

God’s wrath is not like our anger. In saying that God is angry we ought to be careful to understand that however God experiences anger (or any passion), it is not tainted by sin. God is not angry in the way that we are. When we get angry, we often lose control, saying and doing things that are excessive if not downright sinful. It cannot pertain to God to have temper tantrums, fly off the handle, or lash out unreasonably. The way God does experience anger is not something we can fully understand but it is surely a sovereign and serene act of His will, not an out-of-control emotion.

God is not moody. It does not pertain to God to have good days and bad days, good moods and bad ones. Scripture seems clear enough that God does not change. Consider this from the Book of James: Every good and perfect gift comes from above, from the Father of lights, in whom there is no variableness or shadow of turning (James 1:17). Hence, God’s wrath does not represent Him suddenly getting fed up, or His temper flaring, or His mood souring. He does not change; He is not variable.

God’s wrath is our experience of the total incompatibility of our sinful state before the holiness of God. Sin and God’s holiness just don’t mix; they can’t keep company. Think of fire and water; they cannot coexist in the same place. Bring them together and you can hear the conflict. Think of a small amount of water poured into a large fire: the water droplets sizzle and pop; steam rises as the water boils away. If there is a lot of water, the fire is overwhelmed and extinguished. The point is that they cannot coexist; they will conflict, and one will win. This is God’s wrath: the complete incompatibility of two things, sin and His utter holiness. We must be purified before entering His presence, otherwise we could not tolerate His glory. We would wail and grind our teeth, turning away in horror. The wrath is the conflict between our sin and God’s holiness. God cannot and will not change, so we must be changed or else we will experience wrath.

The primary location of God’s wrath is not in Him; it is in us. God does not change; He is holy and serene; He is love. If we experience His wrath it is on account of us, not Him.

It is we who change, not God, and this causes wrath to be experienced or not.

Consider the following example. On the ceiling of my bedroom is a fixture with a 100-watt light bulb. Before bed at night, I delight in the light; I become accustomed to it. At bedtime, I turn off the light and go to sleep. When I awake it is still dark, and I turn on the light. Now now it seems too bright, and I curse it. Obviously, the light itself has not changed; it is just as bright in the early morning hours as it was the previous evening. The light is the same, but I have changed. Yet do you know what I do? I blame the light, saying, “That light is so harsh!” The light is not any harsher than it was the night before when I was perfectly happy with it. Now that I have changed, I experience its “wrath,” but the wrath is really in me.

Now consider the experience of the ancient family of man with God. Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the evening when the dew collected on the grass (cf Gen 3:8). They had a warm friendship with Him and did not fear His presence. After sinning, they hid. Had God changed? No, they had. They now experienced Him very differently.

Fast forward to another theophany. God had come to Mt Sinai, and as He descended the people were terrified, for there were peals of thunder, lightning, clouds, and the blast of a trumpet. The people told Moses, “You speak to us, and we will listen, but let not God speak to us, else we will die” (Ex 20:19). God, too, warned Moses that the people could not get close lest His wrath be vented upon them (Ex 19:20-25). Had God changed? No, He was the same God who had walked with Adam and Eve in the cool of the evening in a most intimate way. It was we who had changed. We had lost the holiness without which no one can see the Lord (Heb 12:14). The same God, unchanged though He was, now seemed frightening and wrathful.

What, then, shall we do? If we can allow the image of fire to remain before us, we may well find a hopeful sign in God’s providence. If God is a holy fire, a consuming fire (cf Heb 12:26; Is 33:14), how can we possibly come into His presence? How can we avoid the wrath that would destroy us? Well, what is the only thing that survives in the presence of fire? Fire! It looks as if we’d better become fire if we want to see God. He sent tongues of fire upon the apostles and upon us at our Confirmation. God wants to set us on fire with the Holy Spirit in holiness. He wants to bring us up to the temperature of glory so that we can stand in His presence.

See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come, says the LORD Almighty. But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap. He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then the LORD will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness, and the offerings of Judah and Jerusalem will be acceptable to the LORD, as in days gone by, as in former years (Mal 3:1-4).

Indeed, Jesus has now come: For you have turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath (1 Thess 1:10-11).

So, there is a “wrath of God,” and it is more in us than it is in Him. I will not claim that there is no wrath in God. Scripture seems clear that wrath does pertain to God’s inner life. What exactly it is and how He experiences it is a mystery to us. We can say to some extent what it is not, but we cannot really say what it is exactly. A far richer point to meditate is that the wrath of God is essentially in us. It is our experience of the incompatibility of sin before God. We must be washed clean in the Blood of the Lamb and purified. Most of us will need purification in Purgatory, too. However, if we let the Lord work His saving work, we will be saved from the wrath, for we are made holy and set on fire with His love—and fire doesn’t fear the presence of fire. God is love, but He will not change; His love must change us.

One of the greatest cinematic depictions of the wrath of God occurred in the movie Raiders of the Lost Ark. The Nazis sinfully think they can open the Ark and withstand the presence of God; what they get, however, is His wrath, for sin cannot endure the reality of His presence. “Enjoy” this clip:


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1 posted on 10/17/2019 8:24:14 AM PDT by Salvation
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Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 10/17/2019 8:25:29 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Hebrews 10:31, KJV: “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”


3 posted on 10/17/2019 8:25:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Salvation

“What Is the Wrath of God?”

Democrats?


4 posted on 10/17/2019 8:32:14 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were thrown into a fiery furnace but were unharmed. They were aligned with God and were protected from the fiery wrath of the furnace.


5 posted on 10/17/2019 8:32:38 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Bipolars have more fun. No we don't.)
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To: Red Badger

Matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.


6 posted on 10/17/2019 8:32:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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The IRS.


7 posted on 10/17/2019 8:33:56 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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+1000


8 posted on 10/17/2019 8:36:28 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Bonemaker

Donald Trump getting on Democrats


9 posted on 10/17/2019 8:37:17 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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10 posted on 10/17/2019 8:43:02 AM PDT by LouieFisk (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/16/trump-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-foo)
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11 posted on 10/17/2019 9:19:43 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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12 posted on 10/17/2019 9:22:57 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Salvation
Werner Herzog's version of the Wrath of God: Aguirre.

Aguirre the Wrath of God 1972

13 posted on 10/17/2019 9:28:40 AM PDT by C210N (If you dislike productive billionaires, be 1,000 times more suspect of one confiscatory trillionaire)
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To: Salvation

Become one with the Light of God and His Fire will not harm you.


14 posted on 10/17/2019 9:33:38 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Bonemaker
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness (Romans 1:18).

Is this another Elijah Cummings thread?

15 posted on 10/17/2019 10:09:16 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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It was a pretty big part of my southern baptist upbringing

I had a conversation visiting on the phone yesterday with my Hollywood friends group call yesterday oddly

They were raised Catholic back east

We were discussing the denial of God in Tinseltown

And how many show creators there are openly derisive of God

I talked about wrath and how it was simply not in me to impugne or ridicule God given my ingrained fear of the punishment for such

I think they understood but I also think they didn’t get the hellfire and brimstone I did either as a kid. I went down to the front in 1966 when a young James Robeson was doing guest revival at my church

It was a serious sermon on a Wednesday nite....my dad chuckled to my mom that the way Robeson was heating it up every kid in the sanctuary would be at the pulpit upon invitation if not before..lol

Robeson must have been in his 20s.....were both old now


16 posted on 10/17/2019 10:20:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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17 posted on 10/17/2019 11:36:28 AM PDT by LouieFisk (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/16/trump-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-foo)
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And there's always the "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" for the Calvinist Puritan faction:

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, Jonathan Edwards, 1739

Not a fan of Puritan culture but Edward's sermon is pretty famous all the same.

18 posted on 10/17/2019 12:42:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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Please check the author’s name.


19 posted on 10/17/2019 5:15:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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we cannot deny that God’s wrath is unfit in terms of His love....So, there is a “wrath of God,” and it is more in us than it is in Him. I will not claim that there is no wrath in God. Scripture seems clear that wrath does pertain to God’s inner life.

Once again Pope is in error. Wrath is something expressed as a result of what is in God, and which is God's love, which is not opposed to wrath but the result of it. The parent who attacks someone who attacks their defenseless child is moved by love to do so.

And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, took a javelin and joined the fornicating man of Israel and his Midianitish woman partner together in death was moved by faith in and love for God and holiness. (Numbers 25:7-8)

And which just execution of wrath, flowing from faith and love, turned away the wrath away of God from the children of Israel, which love for holiness required. (Numbers 25:11)

We must be washed clean in the Blood of the Lamb and purified.

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:11)

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, (Revelation 1:5)

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: (Ephesians 2:5-6)

Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; (Hebrews 10:19-20)

For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: (Philippians 1:23)

Most of us will need purification in Purgatory, too.

Error flowing from error. .

20 posted on 10/17/2019 6:26:38 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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