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Where Is Jesus Between His Death and Resurrection?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-19-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/20/2019 10:15:21 AM PDT by Salvation

Where Is Jesus Between His Death and Resurrection?

Where is Christ after He dies on Friday afternoon and before He rises on Easter Sunday? Both Scripture and Tradition answer this question. Consider the following excerpt from a second century sermon as well as this meditation from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Ancient Homily for Holy Saturday (ca. 2nd century A.D.):

Today a great silence reigns on earth, a great silence and a great stillness. A great silence because the King is asleep. The earth trembled and is still because God has fallen asleep in the flesh and he has raised up all who have slept ever since the world began. … He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him—He who is both their God and the son of Eve. … “I am your God, who for your sake have become your Son. … I order you, O sleeper, to awake. I did not create you to be a prisoner in hell. Rise from the dead, for I am the life of the dead.”

Nothing could be more beautiful than that line addressed to Adam and Eve: “I am your God, who for your sake have become your Son.”

St Ephrem the Deacon also attests to this descent among the dead and describes it rather colorfully:

Death could not devour our Lord unless he possessed a body, neither could hell swallow him up unless he bore our flesh; and so he came in search of a chariot in which to ride to the underworld. This chariot was the body which he received from the Virgin; in it he invaded death’s fortress, broke open its strongroom and scattered all its treasure. (Sermo de Domino nostro, 3-4. 9: Opera edit. Lamy, 1, 152-158. 166-168)

Scripture also testifies to Christ’s descent to the dead and what He did: For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison. … For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does (1 Peter 3:18; 1 Peter 4:6).

The Catechism of the Catholic Church on Christ’s descent to the dead (excerpts from CCC # 632-635):

[The] first meaning given in the apostolic preaching to Christ’s descent into hell [is] that Jesus, like all men, experienced death and in his soul joined the others in the realm of the dead.

But he descended there as Savior, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there [cf. 1 Pet 3:18-19]. Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell”—Sheol in Hebrew, or Hades in Greek—because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God [cf. Phil 2:10; Acts 2:24; Rev 1:18; Eph 4:9; Pss 6:6; 88:11-13].

Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the Redeemer [cf. Ps 89:49; 1 Sam 28:19; Ezek 32:17-32; Luke 16:22-26]. “It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior … whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell” [Roman Catechism I, 6, 3].

Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.

[So] the gospel was preached even to the dead. The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfillment. This is the last phase of Jesus’ messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ’s redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption.

Christ went down into the depths of death so that “the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live” [1 Peter 4:6]. Jesus, “the Author of life”, by dying, destroyed “him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and [delivered] all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage” [Heb 2:14-15; cf. Acts 3:15].

Henceforth the risen Christ holds “the keys of Death and Hades”, so that “at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth” [Rev 1:18; Phil 2:10].

Here is a recording of a sermon I preached on this topic: Where is Jesus Now.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; easter; holyweek; jesus; jesuseaster; resurrection
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1 posted on 04/20/2019 10:15:21 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation

Cleveland.

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2 posted on 04/20/2019 10:16:10 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


3 posted on 04/20/2019 10:18:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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He was establishing Fiddler’s Green in Purgatory for us old cavalrymen to stay at until He told St. Peter to pass us on through the gates of Heaven. (said with military humor, not sarcasm)

On the serious side, I figure He was where He needed to be during that time and thus haven’t worried much more about it.

Fiddler’s Green

Halfway down the trail to Hell,
In a shady meadow green
Are the Souls of all dead Troopers camped,
Near a good old-time canteen.
And this eternal resting place
Is known as Fiddlers’ Green.

Marching past, straight through to Hell
The Infantry are seen.
Accompanied by the Engineers,
Artillery and Marines,
For none but the shades of Cavalrymen
Dismount at Fiddlers’ Green.

Though some go curving down the trail
To seek a warmer scene.
No Trooper ever gets to Hell
Ere he’s emptied his canteen.
And so rides back to drink again
With friends at Fiddlers’ Green.

And so when man and horse go down
Beneath a saber keen,
Or in a roaring charge of fierce melee
You stop a bullet clean,
Just empty your canteen,
And go to Fiddlers’ Green.

https://1cda.org/history/fiddler-s-green/


4 posted on 04/20/2019 11:03:24 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Salvation

He’s raiding Hades!


5 posted on 04/20/2019 11:12:58 AM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: lightman

Playing 18 holes at St Andrews.


6 posted on 04/20/2019 11:20:27 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Take the next train to Marxville and I'll meet you at the camp)
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To: Celtic Conservative

It think it was Sheboygan, actually...


7 posted on 04/20/2019 11:27:23 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Salvation

There are some things Man is not meant to know.


8 posted on 04/20/2019 11:47:19 AM PDT by carmen2017
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The best post so far.


9 posted on 04/20/2019 12:09:22 PM PDT by BipolarBob (AOC is the Democrat prophecy come true : "A bartender will lead them".)
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To: GreyFriar

Great poem!


10 posted on 04/20/2019 12:13:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; zot; NYer; Interesting Times; xzins; tired&retired; All

And his short Good Friday homily with the reading of a 2nd Century Christian’s explanation of ‘where was Jesus during the 3 days’ is well worth the 10 minutes it takes.

Where is Jesus Now — http://frpope.com/audio/Good%20Friday%20%202012.mp3


11 posted on 04/20/2019 12:57:29 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Many thanks for the ping, the poem, and the link. All excellent!


12 posted on 04/20/2019 2:09:41 PM PDT by zot
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To: GreyFriar

Very good.

This is the version of “Fiddler’s Green” that I am familiar with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voZbWF9DLlo


13 posted on 04/20/2019 3:04:47 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Beta Male O'Rourke is a fake Mexican.)
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To: Salvation

Hosea 6:2
After two days he will revive us, on the third day he will raise us up and we will live in his sight.


14 posted on 04/20/2019 4:24:27 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Small towns are great, if you as traitorous hehat you were d oing don't worry every one else knows.)
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To: Salvation; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him—He who is both their God and the son of Eve. … “I am your God, who for your sake have become your Son. … I order you, O sleeper, to awake. I did not create you to be a prisoner in hell. Rise from the dead, for I am the life of the dead.”

Which examples another error by pope, as well as making a poor cause for what is true. For those whom Christ set free from their captivity after His atoning death were not lost, nor in sorrow, nor actually in bonds, for Scripture teaches contrary to this, and provides far more on this issue than pope provides.

And what it does teach is that while sins were forgiven even before the perfect propitiation of Christ, yet this was done under the rubric of the coming atonement, and which was necessary

For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. (Hebrews 10:4)

Thus

the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: (Hebrews 9:8)

Thus OT believers could not actually enter in the holy of holies, yet neither were they with the lost and suffering in bondage. For in the true story (real names are not used in parables, nor was science fiction used by the Lord, which would be the case if this was not true, but instead, known physical realities were used which corresponded to real spiritual realities) of Lazarus and the Rich Man. In which Lazarus is comforted in a separate compartment of Hades, Abraham’s bosom (AKA Paradise) while the once-complacent uncaring rich man is tormented in the flames of Hell:

And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. (Luke 16:22-24)

And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. (Luke 16:26)

However, the death and resurrection of Christ changed the reality of the believers, whereby brethren have boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh." (Hebrews 10:19-20)

And thus,

Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) (Ephesians 4:8-10)

Therefore the Lord could tell the contrite believing criminal,

Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. (Luke 23:43)

Put all together, when Christ died then having provided the perfect atonement, then the way into the holiest of Heaven was opened, and the Lord who has the keys of Hell and of Death, descended into Hell, delivering those believers, and taking them to glory. Thus,

Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. (Matthew 27:50-53)

However, Christ also used His key to preach to the disobedient,

By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. (1 Peter 3:19-20)

These were not saved souls, nor does 1 Peter 4:6 (For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit) necessarily say that Christ preached them so that they may be saved, rather than referring having preached to them who are now dead, so that they may live. The rich man in Hades was not given a second chance, nor is this really something that is taught.

And what could be preached to the damned disobedient souls would be that by rejecting Noah then they in essence were rejecting Christ. Likewise those who have never heard the gospel are justly damned for rejecting whatever degree of grace and light they had, which is essence is rejecting "the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world." (John 1:9)

15 posted on 04/20/2019 4:51:35 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Salvation

Well, Scripture says descended into Hell to proclaim his victory, if I remember correctly.

Which makes me think of Kung Fu Action Jesus kicking down the devil’s door. And while not entirely accurate, the thought makes me smile.


16 posted on 04/20/2019 5:00:29 PM PDT by Luircin
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... until He told St. Peter to pass us on through the gates of Heaven.

Peter won't be passing ANYONE thru Heaven's gates.

Revelation 21:25

On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.

17 posted on 04/20/2019 5:05:26 PM PDT by Elsie
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...many bodies of the saints which slept arose...

WHAT?

Ya mean to tell me that these guys weren't in heaven already; interceding for us still on earth??

18 posted on 04/20/2019 5:07:46 PM PDT by Elsie
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Thank you for bumping a Catholic thread.

May God guide you to a glorious Resurrection celebration.


19 posted on 04/20/2019 5:18:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; GreyFriar
 
 
Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
 
 1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery:
We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
 
 1 Thessalonians 4:13
Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.
 

20 posted on 04/20/2019 5:33:04 PM PDT by Elsie
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