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Catholic Church scandal: 395 Illinois priests, deacons accused of sexual misconduct
USA Today ^ | 3/20/2019 | Aamer Madhani

Posted on 03/20/2019 7:39:58 PM PDT by BipolarBob

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To: Campion

Agreed. They included every claim they could which is somewhat puzzling. What is their motive for the ones where the alleged abuser is dead? At first I thought it may have been actioned by the state in order to remove tax exempt status. But many of the claims will probably not make it to trial so what are they (law firm) doing? You can’t bring other allegations to support a particular specific case that is not related. Unless some of Muellers buddies are joining in on another witch hunt.


21 posted on 03/20/2019 9:29:15 PM PDT by BipolarBob (For a good time call Jenny at 867-5309.)
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To: Luircin
I believe in innocent until proven guilty. ...the bad part is that things have fallen so far that all or the majority of them being guilty is actually plausible.

They do not preclude each other.

Just because the rule of law is (supposed to be) *innocent until proved guilty*, doesn't mean that it's a fact or that you are wrong about your suspicions. Or that you can't have them.

You can be as certain as anything that a person is guilty, but the trial still must be conducted with that presumption of innocence.

Sadly, it means that too often a guilty person walks free because beyond reasonable doubt cannot be established, but the worst would be condemning an innocent man.

Besides, they don't escape GOD'S judgment, even if they (think they) get away with it here.

22 posted on 03/20/2019 11:44:25 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: dp0622; Luircin

Better you say it than one of us.

If we said that, we’d be labeled as *anti-Catholic*, and *haters*.

You can get away with it being Catholic.


23 posted on 03/20/2019 11:46:45 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Campion

OTOH, there are likely some who never got caught, so it balances out.

And the fact that some may be dead does not make the allegations not credible or substantiated.

And likely they served only briefly cause word of what they were doing got out and they were protected by being moved around, which is the real atrocity in the whole issue.

Somehow Catholics keep focusing on only the numbers, trying to downplay the seriousness of what happened and making if sound like it wasn’t so bad. What the bigger problem is as it it could be, is the protection the Catholic hierarchy gave those priests it kept hearing reports about.

We keep telling you all Catholics that and somehow it keeps falling on deaf ears.


24 posted on 03/20/2019 11:54:38 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I don’t believe in innocent till proven guilty. It can be clear someone committed a crime and they can be found not guilty by and ignorant or racist jury.


25 posted on 03/21/2019 12:10:29 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (I maUse Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: dp0622

Yes, it is everywhere but it has not been forever. This is a result of homosexual infiltration by the Communists starting in the 20’s and the 30’s.


26 posted on 03/21/2019 3:33:06 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: ConservativeMind

Air it out, help the victims, defrock and punish the bad...not the innocent...sinners in Christ’s Church are expected but evildoer’s need prison time. My church needs only holy and repentant priests.


27 posted on 03/21/2019 4:24:58 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: BipolarBob
I'm still waiting for these law firms to start putting out lists of public school teachers that have been accused.

[Yeah, that'll happen.]
28 posted on 03/21/2019 4:33:57 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: morphing libertarian

I personally don’t adhere to that but the justice system in this country is obligated to function that way for the protection of the people.

Not that it works so great, mind you.

I agree. You can know someone is guilty as sin, but in a court of law, it must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt.


29 posted on 03/21/2019 5:07:26 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Antoninus
There you go again! Our priests are bad but not as bad as....(fill in the blank)! Good grief Antoninus, priests should be held to a higher moral level anyway! They're "supposed" to be men of God! By playing that game you've already lost.
30 posted on 03/21/2019 5:27:08 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: Luircin

Having the Pope Francis arrested would be a relief to the long-suffering Catholics world-wide.


31 posted on 03/21/2019 6:42:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: dp0622

I am Catholic/Christian and share your position. God Bless.


32 posted on 03/21/2019 6:45:03 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: dp0622

Well the TRUTH needs to be told.


33 posted on 03/21/2019 6:47:41 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: metmom

I’ve made comments on all sorts of religious threads, some positive, some negative.

Unless it’s a worship thread, it’s open for business.

The truth is the truth no matter who says it.


34 posted on 03/21/2019 7:03:19 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: dp0622

Thank you.


35 posted on 03/21/2019 7:18:46 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Antoninus
I'm still waiting for these law firms to start putting out lists of public school teachers that have been accused.

Apples and oranges. Teachers get caught and sentenced. They don't have an organization which can protect them the way the RCC does. Watch the movie "Spotlight" based on true events in which the Boston Globe broke open stories of molestation. The Church used every dirty trick in the book to evade justice and protect their corruption.
The victims stories were the saddest. "I didn't just lose my innocence but I lost my faith". They felt like they could never go into a church again. That is the evil these cases cause.

36 posted on 03/21/2019 7:34:31 AM PDT by BipolarBob (For a good time call Jenny at 867-5309.)
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To: BipolarBob

Everybody getting in on the payoff before the Church runs out of money.


37 posted on 03/21/2019 7:54:05 AM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: dp0622
If this keeps up and cover ups keep happening the Pope is gonna wind up in the cell John Gotti was in.

As Head of State of a sovereign country enjoying full diplomatic immunity, not likely.


38 posted on 03/21/2019 7:57:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Biggirl

You’re probably right.

It’d also be an act of war, so not very likely to happen.

Arresting the bishops and cardinals would be a great start though, especially if we could just catch the guilty ones before they flee.

Not entirely sure how we could make it happen and deal with the fallout, but the fallout HAS to be better than the current situation!


39 posted on 03/21/2019 8:00:06 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

Got to start somewhere.


40 posted on 03/21/2019 8:03:39 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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