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Mexican cardinal says abuse victims should think about skeletons in their own closets
Crux ^ | 8-21-18 | Inés San Martín

Posted on 08/21/2018 6:33:24 AM PDT by markomalley

Swimming against the tide of promises to crack down on abuse and cover-up led by Pope Francis, a newly created Mexican cardinal said that some accusers should be “ashamed” to point their finger at clerics because many of them have skeletons in their own closets.

The victims of pedophilia who “accuse men of the Church should [be careful] because they have long tails that are easily stepped on,” said Cardinal Sergio Obeso Rivera.

The cardinal, emeritus Archbishop of Xalapa, in Veracruz, Mexico, spoke to journalists before a celebration he led in his former diocese.

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TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: franciscardinal; homosexualagenda; pedophile; pedophilia
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To: markomalley

Even voluntary sex with these queer priests’ is an abomination, period. When Communist-homosexual-religions trinity (read US DNC) make their social unrest the point to topple democracy, should not these people like him be the first to refresh the Liberty with the blood of these tyrants. I can only Imagine.


41 posted on 08/21/2018 7:20:46 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: markomalley

Maybe South Park was on to something, when they joked that the RCC is actually run by a giant, Queen Spider.

Sheesh.


42 posted on 08/21/2018 7:22:39 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: NorthMountain

Yep. The abuser always tries to make the victim the fault of aggression.


43 posted on 08/21/2018 7:22:39 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: xkaydet65

Yep. The abuser always tries to make the victim the fault of aggression.


44 posted on 08/21/2018 7:22:54 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: markomalley

I’m going to go against the grain here and say the cardinal may be right.

What I mean is, by now those victims may be grown and immersed in the same perversity that the Catholic Church is all about.

That’s the goal of pedophile priests; to molest and indoctrinate young boys into the homosexual lifestyle.

So. If any of those victims do have “long tails”.... it is a result of being raped and molested.


45 posted on 08/21/2018 7:25:27 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: markomalley

Greed seeking power and control over peoples lives. They should have become politicians instead of preachers. Much larger pool of unwitting victims.


46 posted on 08/21/2018 7:28:06 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: TheStickman

Wow, what an awful statement for a cardinal to make.


The words he used reveal a sick mind, not normal.


47 posted on 08/21/2018 7:33:47 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Delta 21
They should have become politicians instead of preachers. Much larger pool of unwitting victims.

being a priest gives you access to a more intimate relationship with the victims.

48 posted on 08/21/2018 7:35:30 AM PDT by BipolarBob (In other news Satan is opening a Ice Skating Rink in downtown Hell.)
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To: cyclotic
Same goes for the leaders who participated in the criminal conspiracy to cover up the crimes and abuse.

Cardinal Wurl was in charge of all the Pennsylvania churches and all the movements of the pedophiles. When there was a complaint from a small boy or girl that finally had the guts to speak up, he moved the pedophile priest to another church, and hushed it up. He still has a job, a promotion really. Guess what city he is in charge of now? Washington DC, fitting isn't it?

49 posted on 08/21/2018 7:36:11 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: markomalley

The Who - A Man In a Purple Dress

How dare you wear a robe to preside
How dare you cover your head to hide
Your face from God
How dare you smile from behind your beard
To hide the fact your heart’s afeared,

And wave your rod
How dare you be the one to assess
Me, in this God-forsaken mess
You, a man, in a purple dress
A man in a purple dress

You are all the same
Gilded and absurd
Regal, fast to blame
Rulers by lost word
Men above men, or prats
With your high hats

You priest, you mullah so high
You pope, you wise rabbi
You’re invisible to me
Like vapour from the sea

How dare you? Do you think I’ll quietly go?
You are much braver than you know
For I can’t die

Your staff, your stick, your special cap
They’ll protect in Hell? What crap!
Believe the lie
How dare you be the one to assess
Me, in this God-forsaken mess
You, a man, in a purple dress
A man in a purple dress
When you place your frown
Between my God and prayer
However grand your crown
Or dignified your hair

Men above men, or prats
In your high hats
You priest, you mullah so high
You pope, you wise rabbi
You are invisible to me
Like vapour from the sea

I lovingly mock you noble lords
We all dress up to grant awards
I do that as well
I dare condemn your fashion sense
At least you’re not astride a fence
That would not sell
But I will deliver this address
Your soul’s condition don’t impress
You, a man, in a purple dress
A man in a purple dress


50 posted on 08/21/2018 7:36:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: markomalley
For 8 years we lived in America while Obama was President. His cabinet and other members of the Administration utter ghastly comment after ghastly comment. The only comfort we Normals took, was that America is not the government or the Administration but the ideal established by the Founders.

Same thing here. The Church is not the Pope, the Cardinals, or even the clergy. It is Jesus' Church...there is a rot that must be swept away here on Earth, but the rot is not the Church.

Satan WANTS people to turn away, to leave...to strike out on their own. It's easier to be tricked that way. My salvation is paramount...I will not turn away from sacraments because of the rot. I may drive long distances to find a good Church, but ya gotta keep your eye in the ball.

51 posted on 08/21/2018 7:38:40 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: markomalley

Henry VIII was frigging on to something...


52 posted on 08/21/2018 7:39:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Notthereyet
Most Catholics don’t recall that confessions were originally done out in public within the congregation and then the royalty, landed gentry and so forth decided they didn’t want their sins aired in public and hence the private Confessions were done for them and ultimately the Confessional booths were introduced. I was raised Catholic and know of some of the less known history.

Thanks for the history. A local Catholic church does do the "open confession" in the church nave.

53 posted on 08/21/2018 7:39:38 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: mewzilla
Henry VIII was frigging on to something...

The outfit he founded openly and proudly makes lesbian bishops. They don't hide their faggotry at all.

54 posted on 08/21/2018 7:41:20 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: xkaydet65
We each thought it might be time for a Second Reformation.

I've been saying that for a while now. Maybe this time the right changes will be made including a return to New Testament theology.

55 posted on 08/21/2018 7:41:22 AM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: robowombat

What is si mi jeffe?


56 posted on 08/21/2018 7:43:19 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: NorthMountain

That’s not Henry’s fault.


57 posted on 08/21/2018 7:44:23 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: NorthMountain

And if it makes you feel any better, the CofE is circling the bowl.


58 posted on 08/21/2018 7:45:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: markomalley
>>Mexican cardinal said that some accusers should be “ashamed” to point their finger at clerics because many of them have skeletons in their own closets.<<

Accuser of the brethren! Father of lies! Master manipulator! These are all descriptions of satan. The accusers had their childhood innocence stolen from them in one of the most evil of ways. Child sexual abuse by a freaking priest...you know, the one who is supposed to be representing God on earth!

These are the same priest who defile the covenant meal with their dirty hands. Committing atrocities so perverted on innocent children, then have the gall to administer the holy elements. There is indeed a day coming when these perverts will stand before God and receive the reward for their deviant behavior against the innocent.

Un-freakin-believable what is going on in the catholic church...world wide.

59 posted on 08/21/2018 7:45:24 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: mewzilla
And if it makes you feel any better, the CofE is circling the bowl.

I know. I consider that fact a warning. "Don't go down this road!"

60 posted on 08/21/2018 7:46:36 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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