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Apocalypse of James: Lost original Greek text of banned Bible book found at Oxford University
News.com AU ^ | December 2, 2017 | Jamie Seidel

Posted on 12/01/2017 6:05:11 PM PST by sparklite2

“The Lord said, ‘James, after these things I shall reveal to you everything, not for your sake alone but for the sake of the unbelief of men, so that faith may exist in them’,” a Coptic fragment reads.

He seeks to reassure his brother everything is as it should be. He describes heaven. He gives James the passwords necessary to guarantee his entry. He gives advice on fighting supernatural challenges. He foretells future events. He warns James of the circumstances surrounding his own martyrdom.

Many other Early Christian texts, some of them immensely popular, were among those banned. Names include the Epistle of Barnabas, The Shepherd of Hermas, The Magdalene Gospel and The Gospel of Judas. Yet others were attributed to more familiar authors — including Matthew, Mark, John and Peter.

But chief among them was likely to be one key concern: Was it the real deal? Three hundred and thirty years is a lot of time for fan fiction to rise and circulate, after all.

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TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: apocalypseofjames; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; gnosticgospels; godsgravesglyphs; history; naghammadi; oxforduniversity
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To: circlecity

“The Holy Spirit.”

Who exactly decided what that is?

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41 posted on 12/01/2017 8:32:30 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: sparklite2
"Are the weird things Matthew described at the death of Christ supported by others? "At that moment the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth quaked and the rocks were split. 52The tombs broke open, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. After Jesus’ resurrection, when they had come out of the tombs, they entered the holy city and appeared to many people.…"

Well, both of the other synoptic gospels refer to the torn curtain. They also refer that something happened that was momentous enough to make the Centurion turn to Jesus and admit he must have been the son of God. That's consistent with Matthew. Matthew's account also fulfills prophecy from Jeremiah and Ezekiel. So, yes I believe it is supported by scripture.

42 posted on 12/01/2017 8:43:42 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Dogbert41

Did I say anything about that?


43 posted on 12/01/2017 8:46:34 PM PST by firebrand
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To: circlecity

Okay. Thanks.


44 posted on 12/01/2017 8:46:43 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: sparklite2

It wasn’t a “banned” Bible book because it was never part of the Canon of Scripture. Fake news.


45 posted on 12/01/2017 8:51:57 PM PST by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: Lurker

The Church. The traditional cannon has been remarkably consistent from the beginning. (I’m not talking whether you do or don’t accept the apocrypha as canonical here.) All of the current books of the NT were widely read and preached from the time they were written in the first century. There was always a general consensus on the traditional cannon with some minor disagreement on two or three books, but not much. The Holy Spirit was guiding the early church from the start in this regard. Just as Jesus and Paul said it would.


46 posted on 12/01/2017 8:57:31 PM PST by circlecity
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To: metmom

It goes back to ritualistic belief verging upon Gnosticism regarding the “keys of heaven” and Peter. From what I can tell RC’s seem to think it’s a physical object imbued with some sort of magical power. If you need a key then an abracadabra password isn’t far-fetched but it’s straight out of Harry Potter. Par for the course if so.


47 posted on 12/01/2017 9:11:31 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: sparklite2
And James was stuck with having to remember a password. He has my sympathies.

Maybe his user name was James, and his password was “I_am_the_half_brother_of_Jesus.

😁😀😁😆

48 posted on 12/01/2017 9:16:20 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

I suppose it’s better than having to know
the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow.


49 posted on 12/01/2017 9:21:33 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: sparklite2

European or African?


50 posted on 12/01/2017 9:26:33 PM PST by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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To: bar sin·is·ter

I don’t know.
AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaeerrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggh!


51 posted on 12/01/2017 9:28:01 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: sparklite2

They call me... Tim....


52 posted on 12/01/2017 9:31:21 PM PST by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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To: metmom

The passwords are to pass by the 3 soul stealers. You answer their question of who you are by saying that you are a son of the Pre-Existent Father, for one example.


53 posted on 12/01/2017 9:32:49 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; pax_et_bonum; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks sparklite2.

54 posted on 12/01/2017 10:36:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Gospel_of_Mark


55 posted on 12/01/2017 10:47:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: sparklite2

“And James was stuck with having to remember a password.”

Was he logged in?


56 posted on 12/01/2017 11:58:03 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: sparklite2
I suppose it’s better than having to know the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow.

As opposed to a ladened one? 🤣

57 posted on 12/02/2017 12:34:21 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: sparklite2

Bump for intersting canon discussion


58 posted on 12/02/2017 2:48:19 AM PST by SteveH
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To: freepertoo

The group who put the new testement together were not lovers of the Lord.


59 posted on 12/02/2017 3:05:56 AM PST by stockpirate (The GOPe and socialist friends do not fear Americans)
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To: Doche2X2
This sounds like something from the History Channel.

Next thing ya know we'll have found photos from Alexandria's library that PROVES that Ancient Aliens really built the pyramids!

60 posted on 12/02/2017 4:25:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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