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U.S. Archbishop: Active Gays Must Repent and Change Lifestyle Before Receiving Communion
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| 7/10/17
| Pete Baklinski
Posted on 07/10/2017 7:13:21 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: RegulatorCountry
Are not the words repentance and penance both the same words to begin with?
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posted on
07/11/2017 5:39:11 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
To: All
Different words, same goal.
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posted on
07/11/2017 5:41:55 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
To: Biggirl
To: marshmallow
Most won’t listen. Instead, they’ll probably start showing up more often to receive the Host ... even if they aren’t Catholic ... just to protest.
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posted on
07/11/2017 6:45:42 AM PDT
by
al_c
(Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
To: Salvation
45
posted on
07/11/2017 7:13:09 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
To: 2nd amendment mama
Show me SPECIFIC verses that show you don’t have to confess sins to each other, and while you’re at it show me the ones that say the apostles (and the ones following them) don’t forgive sins.
I was a born into a protestant family. While the ones here are worrying about penance or lack thereof, probably less than 1% of any protestants ever confess or repent of anything, period.
To: faucetman
Actually, yes, there are people who suffer with same-sex attraction, and live chaste lives. The attraction is what them homosexual.
All people have unnatural attachments to sin, whether they are sexual, pride-based, gossip, etc. With God’s grace, and the assent of our will, those sins will not be committed, yet we are still the sinner.
Celibacy and pedophilia/Ephebophilia are not related. Perhaps a measure of non-celibate clergy, and public school teachers will enlighten one to that reality.
To: marshmallow
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posted on
07/11/2017 8:51:35 AM PDT
by
gogeo
(When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
To: LibFreeUSA
Have they also been told the same thing? By who?
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posted on
07/11/2017 8:53:27 AM PDT
by
gogeo
(When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
To: marshmallow
Finally a Priest who is not championing fags
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posted on
07/11/2017 9:19:36 AM PDT
by
okie 54
To: trebb
**Show me a Christian who has completely stopped all sinful activities/thoughts after being saved**
Look to the saints!
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posted on
07/11/2017 9:29:09 AM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: 2nd amendment mama; annalex; nobamanomore
Please do me a favor. Show me SPECIFIC verses in the Bible where Jesus ever gave anyone penance to do in order to remove/forgive their sins.
Zacchaeus, my name is Zacchaeus and He knew my name.
And Jesus entered and passed through Jericho. And, behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus, which was the chief among the publicans, and he was rich. And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature. And he ran before, and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him: for he was to pass that way. And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house. And he made haste, and came down, and received him joyfully. And when they saw it, they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner. And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord: Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold. And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
Luke, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verses one to ten,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
Anyone not content with these verses need only continue to the next verses.
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posted on
07/11/2017 2:27:30 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: Salvation
Look to the saints! How do you know the saints became 100% sinless?
Once we are saved, God sees us as pure and worthy - as saints, if you like, despite our continued imperfections. Like He did with King David, He declares us sin free.
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posted on
07/11/2017 2:48:09 PM PDT
by
trebb
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
To: 2nd amendment mama
As soon as you answer my question in the previous post.
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posted on
07/11/2017 4:01:46 PM PDT
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: nobamanomore
BOOM! That was my experience as well. No daily resolve, no concept of unknown sin. No nothing.. but saved, leave it to later.
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posted on
07/11/2017 4:40:48 PM PDT
by
RitaOK
(Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
To: af_vet_1981
Sorry, but I missed where Jesus said that he had to do anything as “penance” in what you posted.
To: annalex
Here's your question (which wasn't to me, btw).
"When a practicing gay picks up his belongings and moves out of his partner's house, wouldn't he be doing something rather than thinking something? "Just because he took his belongings and left his partner by choice doesn't mean that it's penance for sin. He could just be moving on to another partner! Very poor example.
To: 2nd amendment mama
Sorry, but I missed where Jesus said that he had to do anything as penance in what you posted.
I forgive you.
Penance is repentance of sins as well as a name of the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Lutheran sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation/Confession.[1] It also plays a part in confession among Anglicans and Methodists, in which it is a rite,[2][3] as well as among other Protestants. The word penance derives from Old French and Latin paenitentia, both of which derive from the same root meaning repentance, the desire to be forgiven (in English see contrition). Penance and repentance, similar in their derivation and original sense, have come to symbolize conflicting views of the essence of repentance, arising from the controversy as to the respective merits of "faith" and "good works". Word derivations occur in many languages.
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses one to six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
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posted on
07/11/2017 6:13:04 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
Sorry but I disagree with you. The 2 words (repentance and penance) are definitely do NOT mean the same thing.
To: 2nd amendment mama
The 2 words (repentance and penance) are definitely do NOT mean the same thing.
A number of KJV-only authors include the old Wycliffe's Bible made from the Latin in their good stream. For example, KJV-only authors such as Ruckman, Ray, Carter, Cummons, Cimino, Steward, and Bradley listed Wycliffe's Bible as a good Bible even though it translated Matthew 3:2 as "Saying, Do ye penance" (The Gospels, p. 11 and John Wycliff and the English Bible, p. 92).
Along with its use at Matthew 3:2, this rendering "penance" is also found other times in Wycliffe's (Matt. 21:29; 21:32; Mark 6:12; Luke 5:32; 13:3, 5; 15:7, etc.).
Some KJV-only advocates may not include Wycliffe's Bible in their good stream.
The pre-1611 English Bibles (Tyndale's to Bishops') of which the KJV was a revision are included in the KJV-only view's good stream of Bibles. One of those Bibles [the 1535 Coverdale's Bible] of which the KJV was a revision has the rendering "penance" a few times.
The rendering "penance" can be found in the 1535 Coverdale's Bible at Matthew 3:8, 12:41, Luke 10:13, 11:32, 15:7, 10, 16:30, Acts 3:19 and 26:20. In his prologue to his 1535 Bible, Coverdale wrote: "Be not thou offended therefore (good Reader) though one call a scribe, that another calleth a lawyer; or elders, that another calleth father & mother; or repentance, that another calleth penance or amendment."
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posted on
07/12/2017 7:17:18 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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