Ping
Thanks.
No. It was established much later. I am a Catholic but I think Jesus today would find our Church very bureaucratic and not unlike the Roman rule He lived under.
No.
The first reformers called the papacy the seat of Antichrist,
The first reformers called the popes Antichrist.
Now, even reformers set their work and worship schedules with a roman calendar named for a pope.
Wonder what Luther would have said about Antichrist having a calendar that the world uses 500 years later..
In a word, after reading several version of ‘the book’, NO.
“The Roman Catholic church claims the papcy as its foundation”
Wrong ...the Roman Catholic church claims Christ as its foundation...
I stopped reading right there as all else is suspect in this article...if the author can’t get the basic premise correct
Part 2: Was The Baptist Convention Established By Christ?
MAYDAY!!!
I smell yet another 800+ thread about the same old stuff!!
Was The Papacy Established By Christ? (Part 1)
No.
There is only one person named in Scripture as the Head of the Body - Jesus. The moment you place a man, or religious organization, between Believers and their Heavenly Father, things go catawampus.
ABSOLUTELY not. Not a word in Scripture about it.
Hoss
Jesus was declaring the Truth to Peters answer, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
“The Rock” of the Church, is the Truth that Christ is the Messiah, the Son of the Living God. That is the Rock and solid foundation of the Church, not a human.
They certainly do. Yet the RC's on the RF are highly offended when they are called "Papists." Like its a false, derogatory word or something. Go figure.
Unquestionably, YES!
Ping!
We could argue all day about if the Catholic Church thinks of Peter as the foundation.
But the teachings is what should be the question.
I see much more of Paul in the Catholic Church than I do of Peter.
Mathew 23
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father.
Meaning not as a title.
1 Corinthians 4
4 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
Paul indicates he is a spiritual father to the Corinthians and even puts it as a warning and he says to follow me.
The Catholic Church is full of fathers and they say follow me.
1 Corinthians Chapter 7
7 For I would that all men were even as I myself.
Celibate? must be where the idea of the Priests not having wives came from.
1 Corinthians 7
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit:
Could that be where the Catholic Nuns came from?
Matthew 6
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in SECRET; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Note I capitalized the letters in secret.
What does Paul say?
1 Timothy
8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
Many protestants and Catholics use their hands.
1 Corinthians 11:17-34.
Paul explains the breaking of bread and drinking the wine, I could be mistaken but I do not believe this was mentioned by the Apostle Peter.
I don`t think I need to give any more examples to show that the apostle Peter is nothing more than a figurehead in the Catholic Church so what good does it do to make an argument for or against it.
I do not believe there could be a better man than Peter for the job, Jesus said let your yea`s be yea and your nay`s be nay.
Both John and James in their own ways warned that we should use deeds rather than words.
Which reminds me to shut up and get out of here.
Peter and the Papacy
Five Facts of Faith from the Life of St. Peter – A Homily for the Feast of Saints Peter and Paul
The restoration of the cave church of St. Peter in Antioch - Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul
Pope Francis: Peter and Paul homily (full text)
The Primacy of Peter and the Primacy of Love: 3rd Sunday of Easter
11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome
The Primacy of Peter
On St. Peter's Imprisonment and Miraculous Release
The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. Peter [Catholic Caucus]
Church Authority Doesn't "Peter" Out
Radio Replies Second Volume - St. Peter in Rome
Did Peter Have a Successor?
St. Peter and the Primacy of Rome
SAINT PETER'S CHAINS (44 A.D.)
Heart of the Church (St. Peter in Words and Stone)
A Saint for the Rest of Us
On This Rock
WAS ST. PETER IN ROME?
St. Peter and Rome
Did the Apostle Peter Ever Visit Rome?
Occasionally Naive and Fearful, Yet Honest and Capable of Repentance (Profile of St. Peter)
Saint Peter As Seen by His Successor (extraordinary document from B16 on his preaching and papacy)
HOMILIES PREACHED BY FATHER ALTIER ON THE FEAST OF SAINTS PETER AND PAUL
Peter, Witness of the Resurrection (Papal preparations for Easter 2006)
The Fraternal Society of St. Peter on EWTN
The Primacy of Peter
Saint Peter and the Vatican, the Legacy of the Popes
Saint Peter and The Vatican - Legacy of the Popes
Without the Papacy there would be no Christianity today to proclaim His teachings until the end of time. He would establish the Church to carry on this message. This was in place long before the Bible was canonized.