Conservative Free Republic - You Need REALITY and the Savior

The Ignorant Fishermen.com ^ | 5/16/13 | DJP I.F.

[kindred]

My dear friends, I know I'm going to get it for this post but in love I must say it (2 Cor. 12:15). Someone has to and it might as well be me. For the past 5 years I have been feeling the spiritual temperature at Free Republic and other conservative forums and have found that moral and biblical relativism, biblical ignorance, conservative optimism, Christian ecumenicalism and the outright rejection of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 15:1-4, Eph. 2:8-9) nearly dominate this and other conservative forums. Thank God for Free Republic, they do a great job, are sincere and mean well and are a great group of people who truly love America and conservatism as I do, but... that in itself is not enough to aid us in this dire hour. An individual today has to see the complete ETERNAL picture and that includes biblical REALITY and the reception of it. Conservatism without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ as the Holy Scriptures clearly teach is ETERNALLY bankrupt.

American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament, but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God.

Thank God for some God fearing, Bible believing, evangelical presence at Free Republic, who help point America's conservatives to the Gospel, the REALITY of the hour and Almighty God's biblical perspective, but sadly these are usually scoffed at and laughed to scorn by American conservatives who are lost and without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel (Isa. 53, Matt. 7:21-32, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 2:14). Tragically the dominant spirit there is one of unbelief, subjective conservative optimism, spiritual delusion and ETERNAL blindness (Rom. 10:2-4). The temperature and pulse of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is near dead and ice cold. That is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me these last five years and with tears in my eyes I wish I could change that but I cannot choose for an individual to receive the Savior. American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH (John 4:24) and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God (Matt. 15:1-20, Rom.10:1-4).

The temperature and climate of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is dead and ice cold and that is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me.

My dear friends, oh how we need Divine REALITY today and not delusional optimism and worldly solutions for our EXPONENTIAL global crises. Almighty God cries out to you all day long but will YOU receive Him and His ETERNAL solutions for your life? That is the biggest question ALL must ask themselves in these last days. All these current events and crises of our global community are self induced by the lawless and godless works of fallen man and are driving this world straight into the Day of the Lord (Rom. 1:18-32, Gal. 6:7, Rev. 6-19). These products or fruits of evil men and their consequences are left in place to bring us to the brink of our delusions so that we may come out of our subjective selves and show us our desperate need for the Savior, His pardon, and His RIGHTEOUSNESS.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE (Isa. 9:6-7, Rev. 19:11-16). All ETERNITY is before us and our brief existence in this fallen world is about gone. See the ETERNAL, see the Savior, see the REALITY and you will find the liberation and peace of Almighty God that will calm your hearts in America's last hours.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved!" (Acts 16:29)!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

[Pilgrim's Progress]

All of those curses and restrictions were fulfilled in the coming of Jesus Christ. If you would study you would find that He is the son of the 10th generation. Had he not, He would have been ineligible to be the Saviour . . . for a sinner cannot save another sinner.

He was the sinless sacrifice of God fit to pay the sin debt of mankind . . . the second Adam.

[Ben Mugged]

Matthew Chapter 7 Verse 15

[Pilgrim's Progress]

This thread is not about Romney

[UCANSEE2]

That’s the type of conservative we’re trying to get rid of.

I think I understand what you mean. I would agree that unless a faith/religion actively campaigns, it will not expand, and might disappear.

I think what I was trying to say is that in order to be successful at telling others what to do, ONE MUST MASTER HIMSELF.

I have a difficult time with someone who demonstrates they have no control trying to teach others how to follow the Bible.

The only guy I know who mastered himself, was this one.

And everyone gets the same test. I think that is the real point of the story in the Bible.

[Springfield Reformer]

In Christianity, a person’s value is rooted in the fact that they are made in the image of God. And we each are so valuable to him he was willing to cross the great divide and become one of us, to rescue us from our sin at great pain to himself.

And that is what Paul is talking about here. We know that God values us, and some of us have great faith that God looks past things like meat offered to idols and would not condemn us for eating it. Great.

But what if in the exercize of our faith, we disregard the weakness of our brother, who like us was so valuable to God that he was willing to die for him? Don’t we disparage the value of that brother or sister by doing what we know will draw them into conflict with God? Their spiritual condition matters just as much as ours. So even if we *can* do something, maybe we *shouldn’t* do it if doing it will draw a brother or sister into sin.

[Conserev1]

We put this Vid together about 2 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ka-VdHVFKQ&feature=share&list=FL8cOWWynTY7KxISHeWY3wng

[Ben Mugged]

I said Matthew not Mitthew. And I am a Libertarian not a quasi-conservative.

[UCANSEE2]

I was informed I was hellbound just this morning. LOL

Well... at least you know what to wear when you die.

[UCANSEE2]

Oops. I forgot.

Thank you so much for providing this thread. I am sure it will provoke lively discussion. Religious threads are either dead boring, or total warfare.

It’s always good to consider your own beliefs and discuss them with others who have different opinions.

May we all learn something new.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Conservative Free Republic - You Need REALITY and the Savior

A website has no soul and therefore has no need of a savior.

[Zeneta]

I get the sense that there are many believers, self proclaimed Christians, that can recite chapter and verse, yet their deeds and political positions run counter to those beliefs.

It reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlZh_6tw5kc

You in the mirror.

starin back at me.

O’ conscience let me be....to the pure, all things are pure.

To those who defiled unbelieving: nothing is pure.

Their minds, their conscience defiled.

They profess to know God. But deceive him by deeds all the while.

Where do I stand on the rock or in the sand?

O’ Holy Spirit won’t you help me understand, Holy spirit won’t you say a prayer for me?

With your groanings.

My mind, my conscience defiled!

send the blood of the Lamb, don’t leave me in exile.

What was the promise on the Cross of Calvary?

Confess the Lord and the truth shall set you free...

create in me a clean heart, O God.

Renew a steadfast spirit within me. To my prayers you’ve always given heed.

Blessed be thy God.Who never turned away from me.

Hid his face from all my sin, forgot, forgot my iniquity.

Go on and raise your hands sing praises to the Lord.

He’s the King and He’ll reign forevermore.

He died upon the cross at Calvary.

He died to save a wretch like me!

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Jennifer Knapp
Trinity

Sadly, after disappearing for a number of years she came out as a lesbian.

[TheRhinelander]

The only way is through Jesus Christ.

[MD Expat in PA]

Does anyone think we'll get Norman Rockwell back by politics and voting?

Norman Rockwell – The Golden Rule

[EBH]

Bless you kindred.

I will cautiously state that even Revelations starts with a ‘calling out’ of the churches...to repent even though they had perceived good works... God calls them to repent again

And for all the sarcasm, mocking, and well meaning scripture posted so far on this thread.

What speaks to me in times like this is Psalm 46.

[stockpirate]

With posts like this we don’t need democrats.

I love it when someone thinks they know the minds of others and our walk with God.

I’m referring to the thread not kindred’s post within this thread.

[donna]

But, still, the bottom line:

Matthew 12:30
“He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.”

[Pilgrim's Progress]

Many children are led to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, either in a vacation Bible school or neighborhood Bible Time, often on a Sunday school bus ride . . . and then later on in life through bad associations, physical weakness and doubts, or rebellion towards biblical principles reject their walk with God.

They will lose many rewards but the Saviour that saves, saves for always, and will not sever His relationship with that sinner - though she grow up and embrace a deviant lifestyle.

“John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16).

Eternal life is eternal . . .

[stockpirate]

As I see it at some point the holy spirit will move on people here in the US, God fearing people, people who will all of a sudden know what they need to do and how to do it.

I do not pretend to know what God wants anyone one to do or that I may know more about what the Bible says or means over another.

God will judge, and if a person comes for me in a bad way, I will aid him in meeting God for his judgement.

[Ramonne]

Thank you and I agree.

[albionin]

People like you are why I no longer associate with Christians. I am sick and tired of people telling me that their faith is superior to my reason. What we need is fewer people telling us all what we need. How are you any different than a “progressive”. If your kind ever get into power you will be no better. How about believing in Liberty and individualism. That is what this country was founded on. I’ll tell you this, if this country falls to a dictatorship it won’t be of the progressive kind. Those ideas have so thoroughly failed, as we are all about to witness. No it will be the hatred of the mind and reason that will open the door for the next dictator to take control and it will be people like you who will be the first to agree.