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Conservative Free Republic - You Need REALITY and the Savior
The Ignorant Fishermen.com ^ | 5/16/13 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 05/16/2013 4:59:37 PM PDT by kindred

My dear friends, I know I'm going to get it for this post but in love I must say it (2 Cor. 12:15). Someone has to and it might as well be me. For the past 5 years I have been feeling the spiritual temperature at Free Republic and other conservative forums and have found that moral and biblical relativism, biblical ignorance, conservative optimism, Christian ecumenicalism and the outright rejection of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 15:1-4, Eph. 2:8-9) nearly dominate this and other conservative forums. Thank God for Free Republic, they do a great job, are sincere and mean well and are a great group of people who truly love America and conservatism as I do, but... that in itself is not enough to aid us in this dire hour. An individual today has to see the complete ETERNAL picture and that includes biblical REALITY and the reception of it. Conservatism without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ as the Holy Scriptures clearly teach is ETERNALLY bankrupt.

American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament, but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God.

Thank God for some God fearing, Bible believing, evangelical presence at Free Republic, who help point America's conservatives to the Gospel, the REALITY of the hour and Almighty God's biblical perspective, but sadly these are usually scoffed at and laughed to scorn by American conservatives who are lost and without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel (Isa. 53, Matt. 7:21-32, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 2:14). Tragically the dominant spirit there is one of unbelief, subjective conservative optimism, spiritual delusion and ETERNAL blindness (Rom. 10:2-4). The temperature and pulse of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is near dead and ice cold. That is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me these last five years and with tears in my eyes I wish I could change that but I cannot choose for an individual to receive the Savior. American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH (John 4:24) and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God (Matt. 15:1-20, Rom.10:1-4).

The temperature and climate of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is dead and ice cold and that is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me.

My dear friends, oh how we need Divine REALITY today and not delusional optimism and worldly solutions for our EXPONENTIAL global crises. Almighty God cries out to you all day long but will YOU receive Him and His ETERNAL solutions for your life? That is the biggest question ALL must ask themselves in these last days. All these current events and crises of our global community are self induced by the lawless and godless works of fallen man and are driving this world straight into the Day of the Lord (Rom. 1:18-32, Gal. 6:7, Rev. 6-19). These products or fruits of evil men and their consequences are left in place to bring us to the brink of our delusions so that we may come out of our subjective selves and show us our desperate need for the Savior, His pardon, and His RIGHTEOUSNESS.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE (Isa. 9:6-7, Rev. 19:11-16). All ETERNITY is before us and our brief existence in this fallen world is about gone. See the ETERNAL, see the Savior, see the REALITY and you will find the liberation and peace of Almighty God that will calm your hearts in America's last hours.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved!" (Acts 16:29)!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


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To: UCANSEE2; Pilgrim's Progress

“I’ve always felt that a true conservative uses the Bible to tell himself what to do, and not what others should do.”


That’s the type of conservative we’re trying to get rid of. Here is what the scripture tells that kind of conservative to do:

Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

That’s not being a bossy know it all though. It’s called warning mankind that there is only one way to heaven, and that is through Jesus Christ who died for our sin.


41 posted on 05/16/2013 5:34:54 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

>>> then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.>>>

I like it!

And I like your name. Welcome to FR.


42 posted on 05/16/2013 5:36:01 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: kindred

43 posted on 05/16/2013 5:36:19 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet)
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To: knarf

There are certain parts of Mississippi where it still exists.
We are under assault constantly but we love GOD and fight the devil.

LLS


44 posted on 05/16/2013 5:37:07 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: kindred
Psalm 127:1

127 Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

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1 John 5:11-12

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

45 posted on 05/16/2013 5:39:04 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: JoeProBono

“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent” (Acts 17:30)


46 posted on 05/16/2013 5:39:08 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: muir_redwoods

“Your error speaks all I need to hear about your thought process.”


Hey, I’d rather make little errors like that than to be damned eternally in the really big errors.


47 posted on 05/16/2013 5:39:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: fanfan
21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. 22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. Is this saying I shouldn't have something that might tempt another? It almost sounds like Buddhism, or Hinduism, where a person's value is based only on what they do for others.

I am not a biblical scholar but it seems you may be misreading this. What I get out of it is if what you want to partake of is another's weakness, don't partake in front of him to tempt his weakness. An example would be to not drink in front of an alcoholic. 22 Seems to say to have God in your heart and do not condemn another for his beliefs.

48 posted on 05/16/2013 5:40:11 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: kitkat

Thanks for the welcome!


49 posted on 05/16/2013 5:40:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Ben Mugged

It is not our place to condemn anyone . . . just to deliver the mail.

“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:18).

Without Christ, a man is condemned already . . . by God the Father Himself. It is only by being in Christ through faith that God sees a sinner through the blood of the Son, and no longer condemns the sinner.


50 posted on 05/16/2013 5:44:04 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Thanks

I want to go here:

Down To The River To Pray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSif77IVQdY&feature=related

I sent this video to my mother and it brought her to tears.

Tears for the culture that surrounds us.

Tears, since as the daughter of a Minister living in the midwest, she would accompany her father on missions like this.


51 posted on 05/16/2013 5:44:08 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: muir_redwoods

People who share a common moral worldview can work together for many good things, and FR is a great example of that. We affirm a belief in God because that relates to being conservative; our natural rights are the basis for our conservative views and they derive directly from our belief in the Creator who endows us with those rights.

But as a Christian, we cannot be shy about what our Founder taught. He has made it clear that personal, individual salvation cannot occur apart from Him:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So if you find Christianity insufficiently inclusive, you cannot blame the sheep; you must blame the Shepherd.

But FR is not Christianity. It is an association of people who have a shared set of beliefs that directly impact the governance of the nation. Christianity exemplifies many of those beliefs, but because God’s law is the law everywhere and all the time, many who are not Christian have the same views and public policy objectives, and that’s a good thing.


52 posted on 05/16/2013 5:45:09 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Deuteronomy 23:1-8


53 posted on 05/16/2013 5:45:11 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

As I indicated, your thoughts are of no importance to me. Write again if you want but I’ve already wasted too much time on this.


54 posted on 05/16/2013 5:45:44 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

“As I indicated, your thoughts are of no importance to me. Write again if you want but I’ve already wasted too much time on this.”


Okay, I’ll keep on keeping on with those with ears to hear, then.


55 posted on 05/16/2013 5:47:20 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: glock rocks

Yeah buddy.


56 posted on 05/16/2013 5:47:33 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Zeneta

Amen! Would to God that hard-hearted sinners would allow God to melt their stoney hearts of unbelief and come to the Father as a little child, willing to trust and take Him at His Word.

“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” (John 11:25-26)


57 posted on 05/16/2013 5:48:06 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: jjotto

I wonder if all the big-tent Romneybots will stop by this thread and decry the call for ‘purity’.


So far, so good. No Mormons have showed up. I guess I can stop being scared now. I might even sleep tonight LOL


58 posted on 05/16/2013 5:48:25 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Well said.

I don’t think God particularly likes wusses, and we definately have enemies within this administration:

Psalm 144

King James Version (KJV)

144 Blessed be the Lord my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:


59 posted on 05/16/2013 5:49:07 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Very well stated.


60 posted on 05/16/2013 5:49:33 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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