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Conservative Free Republic - You Need REALITY and the Savior
The Ignorant Fishermen.com ^ | 5/16/13 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 05/16/2013 4:59:37 PM PDT by kindred

My dear friends, I know I'm going to get it for this post but in love I must say it (2 Cor. 12:15). Someone has to and it might as well be me. For the past 5 years I have been feeling the spiritual temperature at Free Republic and other conservative forums and have found that moral and biblical relativism, biblical ignorance, conservative optimism, Christian ecumenicalism and the outright rejection of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 15:1-4, Eph. 2:8-9) nearly dominate this and other conservative forums. Thank God for Free Republic, they do a great job, are sincere and mean well and are a great group of people who truly love America and conservatism as I do, but... that in itself is not enough to aid us in this dire hour. An individual today has to see the complete ETERNAL picture and that includes biblical REALITY and the reception of it. Conservatism without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ as the Holy Scriptures clearly teach is ETERNALLY bankrupt.

American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament, but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God.

Thank God for some God fearing, Bible believing, evangelical presence at Free Republic, who help point America's conservatives to the Gospel, the REALITY of the hour and Almighty God's biblical perspective, but sadly these are usually scoffed at and laughed to scorn by American conservatives who are lost and without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel (Isa. 53, Matt. 7:21-32, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 2:14). Tragically the dominant spirit there is one of unbelief, subjective conservative optimism, spiritual delusion and ETERNAL blindness (Rom. 10:2-4). The temperature and pulse of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is near dead and ice cold. That is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me these last five years and with tears in my eyes I wish I could change that but I cannot choose for an individual to receive the Savior. American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH (John 4:24) and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God (Matt. 15:1-20, Rom.10:1-4).

The temperature and climate of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is dead and ice cold and that is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me.

My dear friends, oh how we need Divine REALITY today and not delusional optimism and worldly solutions for our EXPONENTIAL global crises. Almighty God cries out to you all day long but will YOU receive Him and His ETERNAL solutions for your life? That is the biggest question ALL must ask themselves in these last days. All these current events and crises of our global community are self induced by the lawless and godless works of fallen man and are driving this world straight into the Day of the Lord (Rom. 1:18-32, Gal. 6:7, Rev. 6-19). These products or fruits of evil men and their consequences are left in place to bring us to the brink of our delusions so that we may come out of our subjective selves and show us our desperate need for the Savior, His pardon, and His RIGHTEOUSNESS.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE (Isa. 9:6-7, Rev. 19:11-16). All ETERNITY is before us and our brief existence in this fallen world is about gone. See the ETERNAL, see the Savior, see the REALITY and you will find the liberation and peace of Almighty God that will calm your hearts in America's last hours.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved!" (Acts 16:29)!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


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1 Corinthians Chapter 15

1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.

12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1 posted on 05/16/2013 4:59:37 PM PDT by kindred
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To: kindred

So, you’ve decided all the Jews and Hindus on Free Republic are no longer welcome? You have, have you? Really?


2 posted on 05/16/2013 5:03:55 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: kindred

Amen, Kindred!

I have always believed that a true conservative must also be a true Bible believers. That is the only way to honestly evaluate our situation.

To understand that God punishes a sinful nation would help all of realize and understand and accept that 0bama may actually be God’s representative to wield His sword of judgment upon America.

Sadly, according to Scripture, the rain falls upon the just and the unjust . . .


3 posted on 05/16/2013 5:05:57 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: muir_redwoods

I was informed I was hellbound just this morning. LOL


4 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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oh boy


5 posted on 05/16/2013 5:07:50 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced.)
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To: kindred

Romans 14

14 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister[a]? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[b]

12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.


6 posted on 05/16/2013 5:08:52 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Every soul is an individual and without borders. God may destroy America and every mortal body in it but the souls will still be judged as individuals.


7 posted on 05/16/2013 5:09:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: kindred

Kindred, you are correct we all need Jesus!


8 posted on 05/16/2013 5:09:55 PM PDT by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: cripplecreek

IBT Smite of God ZOT.


9 posted on 05/16/2013 5:10:16 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed.


10 posted on 05/16/2013 5:10:45 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: cripplecreek

You’ve stumbled onto the wrong thread. This one is about gaining salvation by memorization of bible verses.


11 posted on 05/16/2013 5:11:31 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: kindred

What I don’t need is people telling me what I do need!


12 posted on 05/16/2013 5:12:28 PM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: cripplecreek

Meet you there. :)


13 posted on 05/16/2013 5:12:44 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: kindred
My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO?

Well, I sure ain't gonna wave a Bible at the bad guys.

Ain't gonna kneel down and pray that the bad guys knock it off being bad guys.

I'll stand up and whack those bastards a bit harder than they try to whack me.

Might pray about it after.

14 posted on 05/16/2013 5:15:03 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: muir_redwoods

I wonder if all the big-tent Romneybots will stop by this thread and decry the call for ‘purity’.


15 posted on 05/16/2013 5:15:21 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Thank you Pilgrim and may the good Lord bless and keep you and your safe in these evil days.


16 posted on 05/16/2013 5:15:42 PM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: kindred; All

I also tend to agree regarding the conservative movement in general (though I’m not sure if this can be applied to FR as a whole). The Mitt Romney fiasco pretty much proved it. Almost the entire movement, and even church “leaders,” had no real problem at all with dropping their principles and embracing a known liar and leader in a non-Christian religious group. I remember listening to their depictions of Romney and feeling sick to the stomach. The usual political idolatry, and they didn’t even know that that was what they were doing. And here is a guy who is a abortion and homo-supporter, the inventer of Obamacare, and a LIAR, proven time and time again. A mere fiend who wanted power to satisfy his ego, just like the guy we wanted to replace. What person who fears God doesn’t mourn when faced with such a choice? (Mind you, I’m sure many voted because they felt he was the lesser of two evils, and not because they fell for the GOP propaganda.) They let their fear of Obama get the best of them, but bottom line is that without spiritual regeneration the country has no chance of recovery. The scripture is clear:

2Ch_7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

If this isn’t at the center of your thoughts and your life, then everything you do is in vain. It is God who is truly in control of our country, and if we want to fix things, it has to be through God directly, not through robbers who look like the flower, but are the snake beneath it.


17 posted on 05/16/2013 5:16:40 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: humblegunner

[Well, I sure ain’t gonna wave a Bible at the bad guys]

Keep the Bible for reading and pray the Lord Jesus lift up a standard against the devil who is coming in like a flood to destroy our foolish and apostate nation.


18 posted on 05/16/2013 5:18:49 PM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: muir_redwoods

“So, you’ve decided all the Jews and Hindus on Free Republic are no longer welcome? You have, have you? Really?”


I’m sure they’re welcome. But, unless they repent and are baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, they’ll be going to the same place many of their political opponents are.

Not PC, I know, but that’s what Jesus Christ taught.


19 posted on 05/16/2013 5:19:51 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: jjotto

I wonder if all the big-tent Romneybots will stop by this thread and decry the call for ‘purity’.


I’m shaking in my boots just thinking about that possibility. My evening is ruined and I won’t sleep tonight.


20 posted on 05/16/2013 5:19:54 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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