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Conservative Free Republic - You Need REALITY and the Savior
The Ignorant Fishermen.com ^ | 5/16/13 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 05/16/2013 4:59:37 PM PDT by kindred

My dear friends, I know I'm going to get it for this post but in love I must say it (2 Cor. 12:15). Someone has to and it might as well be me. For the past 5 years I have been feeling the spiritual temperature at Free Republic and other conservative forums and have found that moral and biblical relativism, biblical ignorance, conservative optimism, Christian ecumenicalism and the outright rejection of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 15:1-4, Eph. 2:8-9) nearly dominate this and other conservative forums. Thank God for Free Republic, they do a great job, are sincere and mean well and are a great group of people who truly love America and conservatism as I do, but... that in itself is not enough to aid us in this dire hour. An individual today has to see the complete ETERNAL picture and that includes biblical REALITY and the reception of it. Conservatism without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ as the Holy Scriptures clearly teach is ETERNALLY bankrupt.

American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament, but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God.

Thank God for some God fearing, Bible believing, evangelical presence at Free Republic, who help point America's conservatives to the Gospel, the REALITY of the hour and Almighty God's biblical perspective, but sadly these are usually scoffed at and laughed to scorn by American conservatives who are lost and without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel (Isa. 53, Matt. 7:21-32, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 2:14). Tragically the dominant spirit there is one of unbelief, subjective conservative optimism, spiritual delusion and ETERNAL blindness (Rom. 10:2-4). The temperature and pulse of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is near dead and ice cold. That is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me these last five years and with tears in my eyes I wish I could change that but I cannot choose for an individual to receive the Savior. American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH (John 4:24) and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God (Matt. 15:1-20, Rom.10:1-4).

The temperature and climate of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is dead and ice cold and that is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me.

My dear friends, oh how we need Divine REALITY today and not delusional optimism and worldly solutions for our EXPONENTIAL global crises. Almighty God cries out to you all day long but will YOU receive Him and His ETERNAL solutions for your life? That is the biggest question ALL must ask themselves in these last days. All these current events and crises of our global community are self induced by the lawless and godless works of fallen man and are driving this world straight into the Day of the Lord (Rom. 1:18-32, Gal. 6:7, Rev. 6-19). These products or fruits of evil men and their consequences are left in place to bring us to the brink of our delusions so that we may come out of our subjective selves and show us our desperate need for the Savior, His pardon, and His RIGHTEOUSNESS.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE (Isa. 9:6-7, Rev. 19:11-16). All ETERNITY is before us and our brief existence in this fallen world is about gone. See the ETERNAL, see the Savior, see the REALITY and you will find the liberation and peace of Almighty God that will calm your hearts in America's last hours.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved!" (Acts 16:29)!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


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To: humblegunner

Amen, brother Gunner.


21 posted on 05/16/2013 5:20:08 PM PDT by glock rocks ("If not us, who? If not now, when?" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

C’mon, you’ve got to be kidding. The reason Romney lost is that conservatives didn’t vote for him (sadly).


22 posted on 05/16/2013 5:20:31 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You’re entitled to your beliefs as are everyone else.


23 posted on 05/16/2013 5:21:33 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

[2Ch_7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

If this isn’t at the center of your thoughts and your life, then everything you do is in vain. It is God who is truly in control of our country, and if we want to fix things, it has to be through God directly,]

You are so very right, thank you.


24 posted on 05/16/2013 5:21:41 PM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: kindred

John 12: 32 

If I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw all people toward me.”

Thank you for your obedience.


25 posted on 05/16/2013 5:22:44 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: cripplecreek
I was informed I was hellbound just this morning. LOL

Maybe you are. Shouldn't you thank such a person telling you?

26 posted on 05/16/2013 5:23:07 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: muir_redwoods

We totally need a purity test for conservatism. I’ve heard about purity tests someplace before... way back in history....


27 posted on 05/16/2013 5:23:31 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: JmyBryan

What presidential candidate in recent history drew the most conservative votes?


28 posted on 05/16/2013 5:23:44 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: muir_redwoods

“You’re entitled to your beliefs as are everyone else.”


Yes, but since I’m not a relativist, I don’t hold every belief as equally true or even worth respecting. In fact, I hold them all as lies in the presence of the one truth. You’ll have to get used to posting with people such as me. We’re quite fickle on truth matters.


29 posted on 05/16/2013 5:24:11 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: kindred

Let me ask you how you propose to minister to anyone?

Do you only minister to those who are already saved?


30 posted on 05/16/2013 5:24:34 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Ben Mugged
21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

Is this saying I shouldn't have something that might tempt another?

It almost sounds like Buddhism, or Hinduism, where a person's value is based only on what they do for others.

31 posted on 05/16/2013 5:25:50 PM PDT by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: JmyBryan
The reason Romney lost is that conservatives didn’t vote for him (sadly).

Conservatives not voting for a liberal. What's this world coming to?

32 posted on 05/16/2013 5:26:14 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Since you’ve described yourself as “quite fickle on truth matters” that makes you a relativist and, as such, your thought mean nothing to me. Learn the language before you try to use it.


33 posted on 05/16/2013 5:26:59 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Act 4:10-12)


34 posted on 05/16/2013 5:27:57 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
I have always believed that a true conservative must also be a true Bible believers.

I've always felt that a true conservative uses the Bible to tell himself what to do, and not what others should do.

35 posted on 05/16/2013 5:28:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: humblegunner; All
Kindred expresses a fearful reality a lot of Christians feel.

Kindred's a messenger, not a whack job, and we'd do well to consider the message.

Not pickin' on you, gunny ... just replied at your post.


Does anyone think we'll get Norman Rockwell back by politics and voting?

Many of us are old enough to remember an America that we've had to admit ... is gone.

36 posted on 05/16/2013 5:30:05 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: muir_redwoods

“Since you’ve described yourself as “quite fickle on truth matters” that makes you a relativist and, as such, your thought mean nothing to me. Learn the language before you try to use it.”


Oops, you’re right. I meant stubborn! Unchanging! Sticking to the truth! A brain fart. My error won’t change this reality though:

Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


37 posted on 05/16/2013 5:30:58 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Your error speaks all I need to hear about your thought process.


38 posted on 05/16/2013 5:32:14 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: UCANSEE2

Perhaps if you knew what the Bible said . . .

“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation” (II Corinthians 5:18, 19).

“But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant” (I Corinthians 14:38)


39 posted on 05/16/2013 5:32:27 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: UCANSEE2
>I?I've always felt that a true conservative uses the Bible to tell himself what to do, and not what others should do.

Amen brother.

40 posted on 05/16/2013 5:33:59 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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