Posted on 09/24/2010 2:17:37 PM PDT by SueDi52
I am a Methodist, my parents were Methodist, my grandparents were Methodist. When I heard Glenn Beck say that some churches have a radical left-wing progessive agendas that matched our current administration's views, that they are working with the left, I thought, no, not the Methodist Church. But then I looked up the website of the NAACP and union fronted One Nation Working Together.org. Going down the list of partners I saw unions, the NAACP, black, muslim and socialist organizations and The United Methodist Church General Board of Church and Society (I can't find it there now). I looked up the Methodist GBCS site and, Surprise!, found the Obama agenda on Global Warming, Health Care, Women's Reproductive Health, Labor and Worker Justice and many more. Here's an excerpt on their views on government: "We hold governments responsible for the ... guarantee of the rights to adequate food, clothing, shelter, education, and health care." (Social Principles, ¶164A)http://tinyurl.com/2excgvj Sounds right out of the Socialist agenda, doesn't it? Methodists, please, please voice your concerns with your pastor. If he/she does nothing, then escalate. We must have our church out from under the Progressive Left's thumb.
>>Been living a sheltered life for multiple decades?<<
My thoughts sort of went the same direction.
Sadly, the Catholic Church as long ago bought into the notion that governments should help the poor, even securlarly. They take the material good but don’t realize that highly taxed societies tend to leave the charity to the government while the people themselves become less generous and take less responsibility for their neighbors. Feeding the stomach without feeding the spirit is rather pointless- you are only sustaining the walking dead.
>>Just stop going there, or to any church that belongs to the National Council of Churches.<<
You beat me to it. I almost posted basically the same thing.
I’ll leave denominations out, but back in the 80’s my pastor became aware of a liberal take over of the seminary he attended.
He took a stand, alone initially the backed by other conservatives. The libs threatened to take the entire seminary down with them and the fight nearly killed the pastor, he literally aged about a decade in two years but he ended victorious and the libs and their Godless theology were given the boot.
It’s worth fighting over.
See Gramsci, "long march through the institutions".
It is done.
The day I walked out of the Methodist Church the minister was raising funds to ban handguns and to fund a field hospital for the Viet Cong.
When I think back over Sunday school lessons I can recall it is obvious that the Marxists were influencing the church back in the 50s.
Most of the mainstream Protestant churches follow a left-of-center agenda.
Honey, nothing personal, but you’re about 30 years behind the curve: the United Methodist Church led the way for nearly all mainline churches into liberal utopia la-la land.
I belong to the Orthodox Presbyterian Church. They left the fold of the PCUSA 70 years ago when they saw the writing on the wall in terms of the leftward direction the PCUSA was taking. It is a small, reformed and very conservative denomination.
My I implore you to learn all you can about the National Council of Churches. This ugly group is all about promoting Communisim/Socialism and every other left wing agenda you can think of.
For everyone, here is the list of "churches" that belong to the National Council of Churches. They are not churches at all--they are nothing more than a liberal wing of the radical Democrat party.
African Methodist Episcopal Church
The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
Alliance of Baptists
American Baptist Churches in the USA
Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
Church of the Brethren
The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
The Episcopal Church
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Friends United Meeting
Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
Hungarian Reformed Church in America
International Council of Community Churches
Korean Presbyterian Church in America
Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
Mar Thoma Church
Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
National Baptist Convention of America
National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
Orthodox Church in America
Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
Polish National Catholic Church of America
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
Reformed Church in America
Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
The Swedenborgian Church
Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
United Church of Christ
The United Methodist Church
Anyone else around here old enough to remember Carl McIntire?
Say what you will about him, but he was fervently anti-communist and unabashedly opposed to that vile outfit, the National Council of Churches.
My wife was raised Methodist, in a small town with a conservative perspective. She was put off of the church we found near us when they switched to a female minister, who, worse yet, started going off on liberal political tangents during the service. Back around then I checked out the national website, got as far and the gun control position and never went back.
You base that on...what, exactly?
If you are speaking of independant Baptist Churches, you are probably right.
Thanks. I hope you were also thinking that we should absolutely not pay any dues to these churches! Those who choose to give money to these “churches” are furthering the Marxist/Socialist/Progressive agenda.
Furthermore, these churches need to be telling the world’s governments to free their people. Poverty abounds in places without free enterprise and property rights.
Hallelujah! We're not on the list (see my posting upthread).
Thanks for that mention of the OPC, I searched and found the website and learned that there is a small congregation not too far (a couple of towns over) from where we are. Need to do some more reading and learning but it looks like a place that we may like to visit soon. THanks again (I never heard of OPC before and probably wouldn’t if I hadn’t been reading this thread!).
When I went to talk to the pastor at the LCMS, I asked if they belonged to the NCC and he assured me they do not. I also asked if they had an official position on abortion and also assured me they do and they are opposed to it.
This is before the issue of homosexual clergy,etc. became as large an issue as it is now.
We have been bless immeasurably since leaving the ELCA. We are also fed the true Word of God weekly.
I am convinced that once this alliance with the Devil happens, there is only one thing to do and that is to run as fast as possible.
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