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I Found Out My Church Has A Left-Wing Progressive Agenda, Does Yours?
General Board of Church and Society of the United Methodist Church ^ | 9/24/2010 | SueDinNY

Posted on 09/24/2010 2:17:37 PM PDT by SueDi52

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To: Lee N. Field

>>Been living a sheltered life for multiple decades?<<

My thoughts sort of went the same direction.


21 posted on 09/24/2010 2:51:17 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: SueDi52

Sadly, the Catholic Church as long ago bought into the notion that governments should help the poor, even securlarly. They take the material good but don’t realize that highly taxed societies tend to leave the charity to the government while the people themselves become less generous and take less responsibility for their neighbors. Feeding the stomach without feeding the spirit is rather pointless- you are only sustaining the walking dead.


22 posted on 09/24/2010 2:52:02 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: rashley

>>Just stop going there, or to any church that belongs to the National Council of Churches.<<

You beat me to it. I almost posted basically the same thing.


23 posted on 09/24/2010 2:52:46 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: SueDi52

I’ll leave denominations out, but back in the 80’s my pastor became aware of a liberal take over of the seminary he attended.

He took a stand, alone initially the backed by other conservatives. The libs threatened to take the entire seminary down with them and the fight nearly killed the pastor, he literally aged about a decade in two years but he ended victorious and the libs and their Godless theology were given the boot.

It’s worth fighting over.


24 posted on 09/24/2010 2:58:03 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: SueDi52
Next thing you know, someone is going to up and say the Democrat Party has become infested with hard core communists.

See Gramsci, "long march through the institutions".

It is done.

25 posted on 09/24/2010 2:58:42 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: c-b 1
My great grandfather was a circuit rider in N. Florida and S. Georgia.

The day I walked out of the Methodist Church the minister was raising funds to ban handguns and to fund a field hospital for the Viet Cong.

When I think back over Sunday school lessons I can recall it is obvious that the Marxists were influencing the church back in the 50s.

26 posted on 09/24/2010 2:58:57 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: SueDi52
At least you can always count on the Baptist!
27 posted on 09/24/2010 2:59:37 PM PDT by fuzzybutt (Democrat Lawyers are the root of all evil.)
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To: SueDi52

Most of the mainstream Protestant churches follow a left-of-center agenda.


28 posted on 09/24/2010 3:00:24 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Class warfare is Obama's thing.)
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To: SueDi52

Honey, nothing personal, but you’re about 30 years behind the curve: the United Methodist Church led the way for nearly all mainline churches into liberal utopia la-la land.


29 posted on 09/24/2010 3:00:40 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: SueDi52

I belong to the Orthodox Presbyterian Church. They left the fold of the PCUSA 70 years ago when they saw the writing on the wall in terms of the leftward direction the PCUSA was taking. It is a small, reformed and very conservative denomination.


30 posted on 09/24/2010 3:01:03 PM PDT by LatinaGOP
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To: SueDi52
It is too late. It is gone, right along with the conservative Lutheran Church in which I grew up.

My I implore you to learn all you can about the National Council of Churches. This ugly group is all about promoting Communisim/Socialism and every other left wing agenda you can think of.

For everyone, here is the list of "churches" that belong to the National Council of Churches. They are not churches at all--they are nothing more than a liberal wing of the radical Democrat party.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church

31 posted on 09/24/2010 3:04:58 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: rashley
Just stop going there, or to any church that belongs to the National Council of Churches.

Anyone else around here old enough to remember Carl McIntire?

Say what you will about him, but he was fervently anti-communist and unabashedly opposed to that vile outfit, the National Council of Churches.

32 posted on 09/24/2010 3:06:17 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: c-b 1

My wife was raised Methodist, in a small town with a conservative perspective. She was put off of the church we found near us when they switched to a female minister, who, worse yet, started going off on liberal political tangents during the service. Back around then I checked out the national website, got as far and the gun control position and never went back.


33 posted on 09/24/2010 3:06:27 PM PDT by JTHomes
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To: popdonnelly

You base that on...what, exactly?


34 posted on 09/24/2010 3:06:35 PM PDT by Grunthor (Sex between a man and a woman brings life, sex between two men brings death.)
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To: fuzzybutt
At least you can always count on the Baptist!

If you are speaking of independant Baptist Churches, you are probably right.

35 posted on 09/24/2010 3:07:47 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: RobRoy

Thanks. I hope you were also thinking that we should absolutely not pay any dues to these churches! Those who choose to give money to these “churches” are furthering the Marxist/Socialist/Progressive agenda.

Furthermore, these churches need to be telling the world’s governments to free their people. Poverty abounds in places without free enterprise and property rights.


36 posted on 09/24/2010 3:08:09 PM PDT by rashley (Rashley)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
My I implore you to learn all you can about the National Council of Churches. This ugly group is all about promoting Communisim/Socialism and every other left wing agenda you can think of.

Hallelujah! We're not on the list (see my posting upthread).

37 posted on 09/24/2010 3:10:10 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: SueDi52
The best gauge is to assess the Church's stance on the Bible.
Is it God's Word? Or does it contain 'parts of God's Word' - and we'll fill in the part where the writers clearly didn't know what they were talking about, or weren't as well educated as we are today?
Although they won't overtly state the latter, this is the clear position of many churches. They bring in what they believe are today's relevant issues (the same issues as have always existed - but the next Generation always believes they've gained some new insight, or are confronted with new problems) - and preach their social gospel.
Preach our need for a Saviour, and Christ Crucified and Risen? Not so much.
38 posted on 09/24/2010 3:11:18 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: LatinaGOP

Thanks for that mention of the OPC, I searched and found the website and learned that there is a small congregation not too far (a couple of towns over) from where we are. Need to do some more reading and learning but it looks like a place that we may like to visit soon. THanks again (I never heard of OPC before and probably wouldn’t if I hadn’t been reading this thread!).


39 posted on 09/24/2010 3:13:27 PM PDT by zzeeman (Existence exists.)
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To: re_nortex
I grew up in a very conservative American Lutheran church but they made the huge mistake of merging with other Lutheran bodies in 1988. It was a huge downhill slide after that. It was amazing to see how fast they went totally off the cliff. By 1992, it was apparent they were hopelessly lost and we left for the far more conservative Lutheran Church Missouri Synod.

When I went to talk to the pastor at the LCMS, I asked if they belonged to the NCC and he assured me they do not. I also asked if they had an official position on abortion and also assured me they do and they are opposed to it.

This is before the issue of homosexual clergy,etc. became as large an issue as it is now.

We have been bless immeasurably since leaving the ELCA. We are also fed the true Word of God weekly.

I am convinced that once this alliance with the Devil happens, there is only one thing to do and that is to run as fast as possible.

40 posted on 09/24/2010 3:20:59 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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