Posted on 08/29/2010 10:22:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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Can We Better Understand Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny
By Understanding What the Mormon Church Says About The Constitution, America, and the Last Days?
By Brannon S. Howse
www.worldviewweekend.com
Understanding the end-time beliefs of the Mormon Church and their view of America and the Constitution may help you understand "Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny". The guest on my radio program today was Ed Decker, a former Mormon for twenty years before becoming Christian. On the program I played sound bites of a speech given by Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson entitled "Our Divine Constitution" and Ed responds. Please remember that Glenn has said that he is a Mormon and to our knowledge has never publically renounced his Mormon religion.
Glenn Beck said on his TV program on August 26, 2010, that the event on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on Saturday, August 28, 2010, will not a political event. A few days before this Glenn said the event will not be a Christian event but a God event. What God are we talking about? Is Glenn acknowledging that it is indeed all about a spiritual agenda that has been well laid out by leading Mormon leaders including the now deceased President of the Mormon Church, Ezra Taft Benson? Glenn said that the money for this event was raised months ago. Did the Mormon Church assist in covering the costs for this event and if so for what purpose? Here are the sound bites we played on the radio program today from the speech given by Ezra Taft Benson.
Ezra Taft Benson: I reverence the Constitution of the United States as a sacred document. To me its words are akin to the revelations of God, for God has placed His stamp of approval upon it.
Brannon Howse: This is out right heresy! We are told in Deuteronomy 4:2 not to "add to the word which I commanded you, nor take from it." Saying the Constitution is "akin to the revelation of God" is adding to the Bible and is for sure lowering the supremacy of the Word of God and thus heresy. If the Constitution is akin to the Word of God, why has it been changed so many times?
Ezra Taft Benson: I have faith that the Constitution will be saved as prophesied by Joseph Smith….It will be saved by enlightened members of this Church-among others-men and women who understand and abide the principles of the Constitution.
Brannon Howse: It is the Mormon Church and "enlightened" Mormons that will save America? If America is to be saved it will not be by the false gospel and false Jesus of the Mormons following the principles of the Constitution that they have elevated to being equal to the words of God. 2 Chronicles 7:14 says that "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." Part of the wickedness America needs to turn from is following the Jesus of the cults or the Jesus of Oprah's New Age Movement. The very thing the Mormons are doing and many Christian Americans are following, will actually not reclaim America but bring God's judgment.
Ezra Taft Benson: Have we read The Federalist papers? Are we reading the Constitution and pondering it? Are we aware of its principles? Are we abiding by these principles and teaching them to others? Could we defend the Constitution? Can we recognize when a law is constitutionally unsound? Do we know what the prophets have said about the Constitution and the threats to it?
Brannon Howse: I am all for returning to the original intent of America's Founding Fathers but the cross is higher than the flag and the Word of God is above the Constitution. If we really want to defend a Constitutional Republic we must get back to the Word of God; not the Mormon Bible and Mormon teachings on end-time beliefs and building God's Kingdom on earth or the New Jerusalem in Independence, Missouri as they believe.
Ezra Taft Benson: We are fast approaching that moment prophesied by Joseph Smith when he said: "Even this nation will be on the very verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground, and when the Constitution is upon the brink of ruin, this people will be the staff upon which the nation shall lean, and they shall bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction" (19 July 1840, as recorded by Martha Jane Knowlton Coray; ms. in Church Historian's Office, Salt Lake City).
Brannon Howse: The Mormon Church, in recent years, has found itself in another public relations problem so Ed Decker says they have backed away from this belief. However, all Mormons know of this prophecy by Joseph Smith and believe the Mormon Church and its "enlightened members of this Church" will restore America's honor. Sound familiar? Is this the goal of Glenn Beck's restoring America's Honor rally? Is Glenn Beck part of this Mormon movement that will restore America and usher in the "Kingdom of God" on earth? What does Glenn Beck mean by God? Does Glenn reject the Mormon god that was a man of flesh and bone that evolved to be the God of this universe by living a good Mormon life? Does Glenn believe he can become a god with many goddess wives that will populate their own planet? Does Glenn believe that Jesus is the brother of Satan that was voted by a council to come to earth? By his own admission he has said that 80% of his life revolves around the Mormon Temple. Glenn owes it to all of us that have watched him to answer these questions particularly since Glenn has challenged the president to be public about his beliefs.
Ezra Taft Benson: Only in this foreordained land, under its God-inspired Constitution and the resulting environment of freedom, was it possible to have established the restored church. It is our responsibility to see that this freedom is perpetuated so that the Church may more easily flourish in the future. The Lord said, "Therefore, I, the Lord, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land" (D&C 98:6).
Brannon Howse: So in the end, the big push for returning to the founding principles is for the goal of the flourishing of the Mormon Church? How many people are aware of this ultimate goal? How many Americans want to live in a Mormon theocracy? Before you say they are not for a theocracy you had better read the "Law of Consecration" that Mormons swear to in the LDS temple ritual. Among other things, the officiator requests they swear to "consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you , to the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion."
Ezra Taft Benson: Our Father in Heaven planned the coming forth of the Founding Fathers and their form of government as the necessary great prologue leading to the restoration of the gospel. Recall what our Savior Jesus Christ said nearly two thousand years ago when He visited this promised land: "For it is wisdom in the Father that they should be established in this land, and be set up as a free people by the power of the Father, that these things might come forth" (3 Ne. 21:4). America, the land of liberty, was to be the Lord's latter-day base of operations for His restored church.
Brannon Howse: So the god of the Mormons, who was once a man of flesh and bone, planned America so the gospel of the Mormon Church could be restored? When did Jesus visit the promise land, which they call America? You will only find that in the Mormon Bible. Notice Taft is quoting from the Mormon Bible where they say that Jesus declared that America would become the "Lord's latter-day base of operations for His restored church."
If Glenn Beck's event on 8/27 and 8/28 are not political events but spiritual events don't you think people should be aware of the spiritual and political agenda of the Mormon Church that Glenn has said 80% of his life revolves around?
If Glenn said come to these two events to learn more about the Constitution of the United States which is equal to the inspired Word of God; how many Christians would still attend? Sadly, I believe most American Christians have the knowledge and Biblical discernment of a gnat and even if Glenn publically equated the Constitution as "akin to the revelations of God…" as did Ezra Taft Benson that they would still be at his beck and call because they are so hungry for a conservative leader and so eager to reclaim the founder's original intent. I believe many self-professing Christians will betray God's ordained Word which will surely guarantee that we do not reclaim America but that our destiny will be divine judgment. It appears to me that "Glenn Beck's Devine Destiny" is nothing more than a "divine" deception.
Some are blind by their own deceptive thinking...others just are uninformed. Then there are others which both apply. Some should know better, others are simply otherwise occupied to search. These lists go on.
Be sure what and who you stand for. Beck is a Patriot and fully supportive of our country...had he presented this event as a Patriotic event that would have been one thing, but he presented it as a “spiritual” event. And I and others will then be interested of what religion or organization a TV Personality might be promoting.
He does great to rally people for our nation...nobody is disputing that...but he has begun to promote religion and that is another thing all together.
Christians sing about the Cross and say "Our Father, Who art in Heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name.
And here’s proof that Mormonism’s PR campaign is working.
More or less proof that I choose and nominate radical Islam as a bigger threat than Mormonism is ever going to be.
I would advise you actually bother looking up the words “Islamic takeover of Europe”, and tell me if the Mormon Church even measures up to the logistical, and statistical data regarding Islam’s growth on the world stage. Are members of the Mormon Church growing at anywhere near the rate Muslims are in Europe? As far as I can tell, did their U.S. membership grow from 100,000 to over 10 million? That is true for Islam, and unless I am wrong, Islam, and the propaganda campaign which drives radical Islam, is growing a whole lot faster. So answer me, how do they compare to the growth of Islam’s militant branch? They’re not even close.
Nobody cares but you and some other anti Mormonism fundys here on FR. Oh wait a minute, the taliban probably does too.
Feeding the troll today? It will get your fingers bitten and you won’t gain a thing.
..UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE MORMON CHURCH SAYS
TODAY
ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, AMERICA, AND THE LAST DAYS
This would be a good post for the LDS to consider...
More along the lines of those who aren’t of their church as well. The problem is that while I guess most of us need to channel our energy in who knows which way, we often miss the mark. Political correctness and politicians wield a great deal of power, and are the threat to which we need to stand up the most against. Who empowers illegal immigration? Who empowers the idea of bailing out various business? All I am saying is let’s not let one religious group distract us while we oppose the empowered political ideology, which as you noted, is a “smokescreen” of faith.
BO comes to mind with Wrights’ influences over him... as well as his Muslim upbringing.
What’s more to mind is what Obama does as president, he won the election. If it was Mitt Romney who won the presidency, I would guarantee you that I would be just as much on his case as Obama, if not more considering his willingness to draft and comprise a Massachusetts Universal healthcare plan.
I have to thank you for quoting my favorite passage from the NT though.
The LDS Church is SHRINKING in the US...
And Islam is growing. It has grown 100 fold in U.S. membership in only two decades. (100,000 to over 10 million) they have outgrown any demographic the Mormon Church could have possessed in only 20 years.
People are being beheaded in the name of Islam.
What’s far worse is the fact that many offensive facts about Islam are covered by political correctness, such as the real definition of Jihad, the tax on non-Muslims, or Sharia. Did your school teacher ever teach you the word Sharia? If so, you are luckier than I was in the public high school, as well as in a private high school too.
The LDS Church is SHRINKING in the US...
And Islam is growing. It has grown 100 fold in U.S. membership in only two decades. (100,000 to over 10 million) they have outgrown any demographic the Mormon Church could have possessed in only 20 years.
People are being beheaded in the name of Islam.
What’s far worse is the fact that many offensive facts about Islam are covered by political correctness, such as the real definition of Jihad, the tax on non-Muslims, or Sharia. Did your school teacher ever teach you the word Sharia? If so, you are luckier than I was in the public high school, as well as in a private high school too.
Yesterday was not about politics or Mormonism....It was about Faith, Hope, & Charity...
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Charity ???
Actually Beck said it was about tithing 10%
A requirement to get into the mormon afterlife...
Beck just didnt get around to saying where to...
Well the where to would be the highly paid CEOs of the mormon corporation...
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ROFLMBO
You always need to have the ‘last word’ Well, let this been mine to you. I’ll pray!
~ People of God... Please Listen! satan comes as an angel of light! he will come speaking our language, looking so much like us! bringing a message that people want to hear, want to believe and because of their itching ears many will embrace him and be deceived!
It’s apparent you Christians are fighting like this all the time, I pity both camps
Re: ..UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE MORMON CHURCH SAYS ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, AMERICA, AND THE LAST DAYS
From STD | 08/29/2010 5:50:40 PM PDT new
Shooting in Mormon church leaves Bishop dead
Here you go!
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Heres your FReepMail to me...
Next time pretend youre not just a gutless wonder and go ahead and be a dare devil...
post in the thread...
DO NOT send me any more stealth FMs...
My answer to this one is...
I’m sure the mormon bishop would have wanted to go that way...
“blood atonement” is a doctrine of the mormon religion...
He got to save himself through the shedding of his own blood...
But Christianity is quite different...
It takes the shedding on the Cross of the Blood of the LORD Jesus Christ to save us, the Christians...
Wez speshall...
mormonism is not Christianity...
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