Skip to comments.
Anti-Mormon: The Mormon N-Word (Open)
Mormonism Research Ministry ^
| Bill McKeever
Posted on 01/31/2009 9:48:29 AM PST by Zakeet
Edited on 01/31/2009 11:43:32 AM PST by Admin Moderator.
[history]
Speaking at its annual conference held in Detroit in July 2007, NAACP Chairman Julian Bond called on the American public and the entertainment industry to stop using the N-Word. Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick added, Today were not just burying the N-word, were taking it out of our spirit. I applaud this effort, and with it I offer my own challenge to Mormons everywhere to bury their own infamous N-word, that being the word anti-Mormon.
As with the word [snip], the word anti-Mormon is meant to be nothing more than an ugly pejorative. It is usually slapped on anyone who questions or disagrees with the teachings of the LDS faith and implies that the perceived critic is somehow against (anti) Mormons (as individuals). Im certainly not against Mormons; in fact, I personally feel I have something better to offer them than what they already claim to have. Technically, that makes me pro-Mormon, though I admit I am against Mormonism.
Far too many Mormons automatically assume that Christians who wish to challenge LDS presuppositions are somehow motivated by hate. Such an assumption seems to be borne more out of laziness on the part of the accuser rather than the result of critical thinking skills. It is easy to accuse someone of hatred; after all, that word gets a lot of mileage in our dumbed-down culture. The intellectually indolent person somehow feels no need to evaluate what has been said once he has successfully assassinated a persons character. However, when Mormons flippantly throw down the hate card, they certainly run the risk of bearing false witness.
I would be the first to admit that this disparaging label had some real meaning during the early and mid-1800s, but it certainly does not fit the great majority of people Mormon apologists have attached it to in modern days. Articles from LDS apologetic groups such as FAIR and FARMS (now the Neal Maxwell Institute) are peppered with this word, sometimes to the point of monotony. The irony is that while such organizations desperately want to be recognized for their scholarship, they fail to realize that true scholarly material tends to refrain from such ad hominem. This behavior has not gone unnoticed by those known for their thoughtful contributions to this subject. In their book Mormon America, Richard and Joan Ostling note, The FARMS team is particularly shrill in its rhetoric, an odd pose for an organization that seeks to win intellectual respectability for the church. All too often Saints use the label anti-Mormon as a tactic to forestall serious discussion (p. 376).
Modern Mormons who equate questions and disagreement with persecution need to do some serious rethinking. In my opinion, Mormons who lump those who challenge the truth claims of Mormonism with the persecutions of the past actually bring dishonor to the Mormon pioneers who truly suffered. Considering what some of the early Mormons went through, I am sure they would view with contempt a modern Mormon who whines about being persecuted simply because someone challenged their faith.
Thankfully, some Mormon thinkers disagree with fellow members and have chosen to refrain from using this unnecessary language. They recognize that even though some folks have sharp theological disagreements with Mormonism, their purpose is not at all to bring harm to the LDS people. Anti-Mormon is an overused moniker that needed to be jettisoned long ago, and I call on every Mormon to bury their own N-word, once and for all.
TOPICS: Activism; Current Events; General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: anitmormon; antimormonthread; lds; mormon; mormonism
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 741-746 next last
Bears repeating: I call on every Mormon to bury their own N-word, once and for all.
1
posted on
01/31/2009 9:48:29 AM PST
by
Zakeet
To: restornu; fproy2222; Saundra Duffy; Utah Girl; DelphiUser; oremites; Spiff; maui_hawaii; Grig; ...
2
posted on
01/31/2009 9:49:38 AM PST
by
Zakeet
(Socialism is like prohibition, it's a good idea but it won't work.)
To: Zakeet
See also “anti-Catholic.”
To: Zakeet
Also “trinitarian” said of those of us who believe The Bible and the Trinity...
To: greyfoxx39
To: Tennessee Nana
Trinitarian?
I thought people quit using that in a negative way sometime around the age that the visigoths ceased to exist.
6
posted on
01/31/2009 9:59:02 AM PST
by
mamelukesabre
(Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
To: Zakeet
I’m not a Mormon, but I disagree with this author. While indeed there are people who disagree with Mormon theology and practices, there are also a goodly number who are mentally unhinged about it.
They are indeed anti-Mormon, and vehemently anti-Mormon.
While they can be distinguished from those who disagree, it’s important to remember that there is a night and day difference between a huge crowd of people who disagree and would argue with you, and one lunatic with a gun who wants to kill you.
And the trouble is, there is not just a lunatic, but many and varied lunatics of all stripes who would gladly kill Mormons, a lot of them for reasons that don’t even have to do with the Mormon religion, but other things.
Let’s face it, it is a violent world.
If anything, I am rather surprised that Mormons no longer have among their numbers warrior protectors who could meet such lunatics head on. For eventually the odds favor if not here, then elsewhere, some lunatics directing their hate not against individual Mormons, but at any and every Mormon they can find.
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
While indeed there are people who disagree with Mormon theology and practices, there are also a goodly number who are mentally unhinged about it. They are indeed anti-Mormon, and vehemently anti-Mormon. Do you know of anyone like this who posts on Free Republic?
If so, have you reported them to the Moderators?
8
posted on
01/31/2009 10:09:37 AM PST
by
Zakeet
(Socialism is like prohibition, it's a good idea but it won't work.)
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; colorcountry; Zakeet
I am rather surprised that Mormons no longer have among their numbers warrior protectors who could meet such lunatics head on. Since you mention it, here is a post regarding your mormon heroes courtesy of colorcountry Posted Here
|
DANITES Page 1 |
THE DANITES |
SPRING 1838 ORGANIZATION |
JUNE 1838 EXPELLING DISSENTERS CALDWELL COUNTY |
FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATION |
PRESIDENT RIGDON'S 4TH OF JULY "SALT" SERMON |
NEED IN MISSOURI Encyclopedia of Mormonism |
OFFICIAL CHURCH HISTORY |
THREE PURPOSES FOR DANITES BYU STUDIES 1965 |
B. H. ROBERTS COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH |
SOME DANITES TURNED STATES EVIDENCE SENATE DOCUMENT 189 |
COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH |
DR. SAMSON AVARD, DANITE LEADER TESTIMONY |
COVENANT TAKEN BY DANITES |
DAVIES COUNTY ELECTION WORK |
LDS CHURCH IS DANIEL'S LITTLE STONE |
ORDERED TO DESTROY DOCUMENTATION |
DANITE CONSTITUTION |
DANITES Page 2 |
SIDNEY RIGDON DOCUMENTATION |
THREE DAY NOTICE |
SOLEMN WARNING FATAL CALAMITY |
CRIMES DETAILED |
OLIVER COWDERY, DAVID WHITMER DISGRACED THEIR TESTIMONIES |
COWDERY WAS A DULY ELECTED OFFICIAL |
OLIVER COWDERY COUNTERFEITER, LIAR, THIEF |
COWDERY CHURCH GANG |
PRESIDENT RIGDON'S SALT SERMON |
REMAINDER OF DR. AVARD'S TESTIMONY |
GEORGE HINKLE'S TESTIMONY |
SAW A GREAT DEAL OF PLUNDER |
JOSEPH SMITH INSPECTED ALL PLUNDER |
THOMAS MARSH TESTIMONY |
ORSON HYDE TESTIMONY |
JOHN CORRILL TESTIMONY |
JOHN CLEMINSON'S TESTIMONY |
JOHN HINCKLE'S TESTIMONY |
BURR RIGGS TESTIMONY |
JESSE KELLY'S TESTIMONY |
JOHN WHITMER'S TESTIMONY |
HISTORICAL CONTEXT BEHIND WHITMER'S TESTIMONY |
W. W. PHELP'S TESTIMONY |
DANITES Page 3 |
1992 ENCYCLOPEDIA OF MORMONISM ~ "DANITES" |
DANITES Page 4 |
BYU STUDIES ~ DANITE BAND OF 1838 |
THE RISE OF THE DISSENTERS |
ACTION TAKEN AGAINST THE DISSENTERS |
SALT SPEECH PROBLEMS |
DOCUMENTING EVIDENCE AGAINST DISSENTERS |
HISTORY OF SAMPSON AVARD |
THE QUESTION OF NAMES FOR THE ORDER |
THE NATURE OF THE DANITE SOCIETY: ITS TEACHINGS AND PRACTICES |
THE SECRET OATH BINDING DANITES |
CONSTITUTION |
JOHN D. LEE |
AVARD'S CHARACTER AND METHODS |
GOV BOGGS TESTIMONY |
AVARD'S MOTIVES NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR |
DANITE CONSTITUTION |
DANITE RELATIONSHIP TO THE "ARMIES OF ISRAEL" |
DANITE RELATIONSHIP TO THE FIRST PRESIDENCY |
JOSEPH SMITH WRITING FROM JAIL |
SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS |
DANITES Page 5 |
BYU STUDIES ROCKWOOD LETTERS |
The Danites in Mormon History |
SOURCE OF NEGATIVE ACCOUNTS, COURT RECORDS |
GENTRY STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT |
AVARD A WITNESS FOR THE STATE |
SOURCE DESCRIPTION |
THE MANUSCRIPTS |
ALBERT P. ROCKWOOD |
MANUSCRIPT 2 |
MUCH PROPERTY PLUNDERED WOMEN VIOLATED |
DISSENTERS LIST |
MANUSCRIPT 3 |
DANITES Page 6 |
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, HISTORY OF THE CHURCH DANITES |
CHURCH LEADERS MOBILIZED SAINTS MILITIA |
DANITES Page 7 |
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, LDS Communities In Caldwell And Daviess Counties |
DANITES Page 8 |
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, MISSOURI CONFLICT |
DANITES Page 9 |
SMITH AND SJODAHL, DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS |
SAMSON AVARD |
DANITES Page 10 |
HISTORY OF THE CHURCH ~ DANITE ARTICLES |
ORIGINAL NEED FOR THE DANITES |
AVARD ORGANIZED THE DANITES |
AVARD SET UP COMPANIES |
AVARD'S TESTIMONY FALSE |
THOMAS B. MARSH TESTIMONY ~ HISTORY OF THE CHURCH |
THOMAS MARSH CUT OFF FROM THE CHURCH |
GENERAL DAVID R. ATCHISON |
JOHN C. BENNETT |
DANITES Page 11 |
COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH - DANITE OATH |
DANITES Page 12 |
Examination of Prisoners At Richmond-- "Treason": Origin Of the "Danites" |
PROPHET'S WORD OF COMFORT |
A PROPHET'S REBUKE OF UNGODLY GUARDS |
GENERAL CLARK'S ADDRESS TO THE SAINTS AT FAR WEST |
EFFORTS FOR A COURT-MARTIAL |
THE "DANITE BAND" |
"DANITE CONSTITUTION" |
HISTORICAL ATLAS OF MORMONISM |
DANITES Page 13 |
BYU REGIONAL STUDIES MISSOURI |
INTRODUCTION |
Missouri Era: Residue of Wisdom |
BYU REGIONAL STUDIES MISSOURI THOMAS MARSH: Reluctant Apostate |
DANITES Page 14 |
CLARIFICATIONS OF BOGG'S "ORDER" AND JOSEPH SMITH'S CONSTITUTIONALISM |
BOGGS' REACTIONS TO THE 1833 EXPULSION |
THE NORTHWEST EXPULSION PARTY |
CARROLL COUNTY'S EXTERMINATION ORDER |
BOGGS' REASONS FOR STATE EXTERMINATION ORDERS |
THE AMBIGUOUS "RINGLEADERS" ORDER |
ENFORCEMENT OF LAPSED ORDERS |
JOSEPH SMITH AND CIVIL RIGHTS |
DANITES Page 15 |
WHO DO HISTORIANS AND AUTHORITIES BLAME FOR THE DANITES? |
ELDERS' RECORD |
GEORGE Q. CANNON |
ORSON F. WHITNEY |
OLIVER HUNTINGTON |
EBENEZER ROBINSON |
DAVID WHITMER |
CHICAGO TRIBUNE |
DAVID WHITMER, ADDRESS (1887), P.35 |
RIGDON FORMED THE DANITES |
TIMES AND SEASONS |
JAMES R. CLARK |
REED C. DURHAM, Jr. BYU STUDIES |
LEONARD J. ARRINGTON BYU STUDIES |
RICHARD H. CRACROFT BYU STUDIES |
STEPHEN C. LESUEUR BYU STUDIES |
DID THE PROSECUTION'S WITNESSES TESTIFY TRUTHFULLY? |
CONDUCT OF THE TRIAL |
DANITES Page16 |
ILLINOIS PERIOD ~ DANITES 1839-1845 |
NAUVOO CITY ORGANIZATION |
LIMITATION ON RELIGIOUS SPEECH IN NAUVOO |
ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT ON GOVERNOR BOGGS |
DANITES Page 17 |
ORRIN PORTER ROCKWELL ~ DANITE |
ORRIN PORTER ROCKWELL & MORMONISM |
ROCKWELL BEFORE THE BOOK OF MORMON TRANSLATED |
ROCKWELL IN FAR WEST |
ROCKWELL INDICTED MURDER OF SHERIFF OF PEORIA |
ROCKWELL SUPPORTED IN NAUVOO |
ROCKWELL APPEAL TO WASHINGTON D.C.1839-1840 |
ROCKWELL ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT ON BOGGS |
EVIDENCE SMITH ORDERED THE BOGGS ATTACK |
JOSEPH SMITH RECEIVED A REVELATION FOR ROCKWELL |
RIOT ~ PRESS BURNING NAUVOO TROUBLE - SMITH AND ROCKWELL |
JOSEPH SMITH CHARACTERIZED ROCKWELL |
ROCKWELL BEFORE SMITH DEATH |
JOSEPH'S PLAN TO GO WEST WITH ROCKWELL |
SMITH'S DEATH ENDED PLANS WITH ROCKWELL |
AFFIDAVIT ORRIN P. ROCKWELL GOV. FORD IN NAUVOO |
ROCKWELL'S ESCAPE |
DANITES Page 18 |
HISTORY OF THE CHURCH ILLINOIS PERIOD |
AFFIDAVIT OF DANIEL H. WELLS ANENT JOHN C. BENNETT |
STATE OF ILLINOIS, COUNTY OF HANCOCK |
Letter or Governor Carlin to Joseph Smith, Anent the Foregoing Resolution and Petition. |
ROCKWELL IMPORTANT IN BOTH ILLINOIS AND UTAH PERIODS |
DANITES Page 19 |
UTAH ~ DANITES |
DANITES ACTIVE IN UTAH |
ROCKWELL TRADING WITH INDIANS 1847 |
ROCKWELL WITH GENERAL CONNOR'S INDIAN CAMPAIGN |
ROCKWELL 1849 WITH BRIGHAM YOUNG |
NOVEMBER 1850 ROCKWELL BROUGHT 50 CALIFORNIANS INTO SALT LAKE |
ROCKWELL WITH BRIGHAM IN 1857 |
ROCKWELL UTAH WAR 1857 |
NAUVOO LEGION RECALLED |
ROCKWELL THREAT OF DEATH TAKEN SERIOUSLY |
ROCKWELL SPECIAL OPERATIONS |
MEETINGS WITH BRIGHAM YOUNG |
SPOILS OF WAR |
ROCKWELL FRONTIER LAW INFORCEMENT 1862 |
ROCKWELL WITH PRESIDENT JOSEPH F. SMITH |
ROCKWELL ARREST 1877 FOR MURDER |
ROCKWELL DEATH 1878 |
HISTORY OF THE CHURCH ~ UTAH DANITES |
BILL HICKMAN ~ DANITE |
HICKMAN AND ROCKWELL WORK TOGETHER |
HICKMAN A DESPERADO |
HICKMAN ~ BRIGHAM YOUNG'S DESTROYING ANGEL |
HICKMAN DID 18 TO 20 MURDERS |
DANITES Page 20 |
BILL HICKMAN, Brigham's Destroying Angel (Complete Online Book read it or buy it) |
DANITES Page 21 |
THE MORMONS IN NAUVOO - THE DAILY TRIBUNE: SALT LAKE CITY, TUESDAY, JULY 3, 1887 |
Letter I - Three Letters from William Law on Mormonism. |
Letter II - Three Letters from William Law on Mormonism. |
Letter III - Three Letters from William Law on Mormonism. |
THE LAW INTERVIEW. - THE DAILY TRIBUNE: SALT LAKE CITY, SUNDAY MORNING, JULY 31, 1887. |
DANITES Page 22 |
DR. WYL AND WM. LAW - A Deeply Interesting Talk on Old Nauvoo Days. |
Interview with Wm. Law. Mch. 30, 1887 |
DANITES Page 23 |
THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH., NAUVOO EXPOSITOR , VOL I NAUVOO, IL. FRI. JUN. 7, 1844. NO 1 |
AFFIDAVITS. |
WM. LAW |
ROBERT D. FOSTER, J. P. |
JANE LAW. |
AUSTIN COWLES. |
DANITES Page 24 |
THE EXPOSITOR, FRIDAY, JUNE 7, 1844, SYLVESTER EMMONS, EDITOR, INTRODUCTORY |
JOE. SMITH--THE PRESIDENCY. |
DANITES LINKS |
DANITES LINKS PAGE |
|
http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1838Sent.htm#pg01b |
|
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; Zakeet
Im not a Mormon, but I disagree with this author. While indeed there are people who disagree with Mormon theology and practices, there are also a goodly number who are mentally unhinged about it. So you are anti-Christian now?
If anything, I am rather surprised that Mormons no longer have among their numbers warrior protectors who could meet such lunatics head on. For eventually the odds favor if not here, then elsewhere, some lunatics directing their hate not against individual Mormons, but at any and every Mormon they can find.
So now you are calling for the rise of the Danites, a terrorist group of the 1800's. Thought you said you weren't mormon? However, as of yet there have been no massacres of mormons as a result of this election cycle. Mormons are still free to walk the streets in relative safety (as safe as any other citizen). I think you need to back away from the coffee for a little while and regain some rational thought processes.
10
posted on
01/31/2009 10:34:28 AM PST
by
Godzilla
(Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?)
To: Zakeet
Not on the Free Republic, but they have a prominent place among the other Internet kooks. A lot of the time they are clearly paranoids.
To: mamelukesabre
No...
the first time I ever heard the term or knew it was used as an N word was when a mormon called me that in one of these threads...
Mormons are anti-Trinity...
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
one lunatic with a gun who wants to kill you.
_____________________________________
That would be the mormons who killed “anti-mormons”
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Mormons no longer have among their numbers warrior protectors
________________________________________
Mountain Meadows Massacre...
The mormons had to be “protected” from all those umarmed women, children and babes in arms who were murdered there ..
At Brigham Young’s orders...
To: Tennessee Nana
Interesting.
I, myself, don’t understand the trinity concept and don’t quite believe it. It seems an unimportant point to argue about though. I don’t see it significant whether you think jesus was the literal son of god or god himself. It has no effect on the rest of the bible’s meaning.
The goths and the romans sure hated each other though. People will make up the silliest excuses to hate each other.
15
posted on
01/31/2009 10:46:11 AM PST
by
mamelukesabre
(Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
To: mamelukesabre; Tennessee Nana
I dont see it significant whether you think jesus was the literal son of god or god himself. It has no effect on the rest of the bibles meaning. That is where you are significantly wrong. The Person, Nature and Work of God and accordingly Jesus are the foundation that all the rest of the understanding of the bible is hinged upon. If you believe that Jesus is just another God among other gods - you have a polytheistic interpretation overlaid upon the bible and must ignore the bible's clear monotheistic (one God in existence) teachings.
16
posted on
01/31/2009 10:52:01 AM PST
by
Godzilla
(Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?)
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
While indeed there are people who disagree with Mormon theology and practices, there are also a goodly number who are mentally unhinged about it.You are so right!
I never would have believed it either prior to the Republican primary last year when a segment of the GOP went absolutely bonkers over having a Mormon as a Presidential candidate.
Oh, they denied it of course, and said it was the 'flip flopping' thing or liberal thing, or whatever.
But there was no such diatribe and hate against Guiliani, or McCain, who by every standard was more liberal than the Mormon candidate.
17
posted on
01/31/2009 10:55:25 AM PST
by
Edit35
(.)
To: Zakeet
I offer my own challenge to Mormons everywhere to bury their own infamous N-word, that being the word anti-Mormon.While we're at it, let's ask Jews to retire the word "anti-semite." And Catholics to discontinue using the word "anti-Catholic." And homosexuals to stop using the word "homophobic." And...
Well, you get the idea.
Regards,
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I’m not a Mormon, by the way.
I’m just an American who enjoys the fact that I can be a spirit-led Christ follower without fear of persecution or unhinged judgement.
19
posted on
01/31/2009 10:56:52 AM PST
by
Edit35
(.)
To: Godzilla
Who said the son of god is a god? The son of god would be the most important messenger of god(assuming there was only one literal son of god). How would that make him a god?
20
posted on
01/31/2009 10:58:56 AM PST
by
mamelukesabre
(Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 741-746 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson