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Bears repeating: I call on every Mormon to bury their own “N-word,” once and for all.
1 posted on 01/31/2009 9:48:29 AM PST by Zakeet
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2 posted on 01/31/2009 9:49:38 AM PST by Zakeet (Socialism is like prohibition, it's a good idea but it won't work.)
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To: Zakeet

See also “anti-Catholic.”


3 posted on 01/31/2009 9:51:35 AM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: greyfoxx39

Did you see this one ???

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2175734/posts?page=2


5 posted on 01/31/2009 9:54:35 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Zakeet

I’m not a Mormon, but I disagree with this author. While indeed there are people who disagree with Mormon theology and practices, there are also a goodly number who are mentally unhinged about it.

They are indeed anti-Mormon, and vehemently anti-Mormon.

While they can be distinguished from those who disagree, it’s important to remember that there is a night and day difference between a huge crowd of people who disagree and would argue with you, and one lunatic with a gun who wants to kill you.

And the trouble is, there is not just a lunatic, but many and varied lunatics of all stripes who would gladly kill Mormons, a lot of them for reasons that don’t even have to do with the Mormon religion, but other things.

Let’s face it, it is a violent world.

If anything, I am rather surprised that Mormons no longer have among their numbers warrior protectors who could meet such lunatics head on. For eventually the odds favor if not here, then elsewhere, some lunatics directing their hate not against individual Mormons, but at any and every Mormon they can find.


7 posted on 01/31/2009 10:05:17 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Zakeet
I offer my own challenge to Mormons everywhere to bury their own infamous “N-word,” that being the word “anti-Mormon.

While we're at it, let's ask Jews to retire the word "anti-semite." And Catholics to discontinue using the word "anti-Catholic." And homosexuals to stop using the word "homophobic." And...

Well, you get the idea.

Regards,

18 posted on 01/31/2009 10:56:21 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: Zakeet
So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?
27 posted on 01/31/2009 11:19:33 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: Zakeet
So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?
28 posted on 01/31/2009 11:19:33 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: Zakeet
So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?
29 posted on 01/31/2009 11:19:33 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: Zakeet
So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?
30 posted on 01/31/2009 11:19:33 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: Zakeet
So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?
31 posted on 01/31/2009 11:19:33 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: Zakeet
 
I call on every Mormon to bury their own “N-word,” once and for all.



 

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.

 



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

  2 Nephi 5: 21    'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

  Alma 3: 6    'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

 



 

August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



 1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."

 

 



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



 

Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)

 

 



(From --->  http://www.i4m.com/think/comments/mormon-racism.htm )



Does ANYONE think that if it's Romney running in 2012; these HISTORY FACTS will stay HIDDEN???

39 posted on 01/31/2009 12:00:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zakeet

There is a difference between being “anti-mormon” and being against every false way, including the teachings of mormonism.

“Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.” PS - 119:104

“The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” Mark 12:31

“Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them.” Ephesians 5:11

All true. All commanded.


44 posted on 01/31/2009 12:59:23 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ("I, El Rushbo -- and I say this happily -- have hijacked Obama's honeymoon.")
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To: Zakeet

Seems kind of silly to me. Anti-mormon is simply an accurate word for people who are against mormonism. I have mormon friends, and I don’t hate them, but it is fair to say that I am anti-mormon since they adhere to a silly cult that is easy to prove false with logic and reason.


46 posted on 01/31/2009 3:49:29 PM PST by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Zakeet

Cry me a river. Anti-Mormon is a fully accurate label for those who go out of their way to insult, attack, belittle and marginalize us. Likewise those who behave that way toward Catholics are rightfully called anti-Catholics, and those who act that way toward Christianity in general are anti-Christs.

The meaning is literal, anti is active opposition with intent to harm in some manner, not mere disagreement that respects the rights and dignity of others, and I don’t think any objective person would have a hard time finding a thread or two here that proves there are anti-Mormons and other kinds of anti’s here too.

Anti-whatevers only make themselves look rather weak when they play the victim over being correctly labelled. It’s the same tactics liberals use when you correctly label them and I don’t think that is a coincidence.


51 posted on 01/31/2009 5:46:49 PM PST by Grig
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To: Zakeet

Here’s my opinion. If your denomination attacks its critics for “hate”, you need to find another church. There is probably a very good reason for your church to be coming under criticism.

I am a Methodist. We have started coming under fire for the leftist policies of the “professional Methodists”. We deserve that fire. We should be criticized. As a matter of fact, much of that fire comes from within the UMC.

That’s the way it should be.


73 posted on 02/01/2009 5:21:25 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Zakeet

For a fact, speaking out against the Mormon doctrines is hardly attacking a Mormon. There are some of us that find that such things as Smith’s Biblical revision AND the LDS justification, perpetuation of it offensive.

If Mormons be thin skinned about Joseph Smith that’s their problem, The LDS church has elevated him to god-like status, let them defend him and his teachings.


119 posted on 02/01/2009 3:48:29 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Zakeet

Criticism is all well and good and frequently necessary but the spirit in which it is offered is a key factor. When someone you love and who loves you offers criticism, it is done so in a loving manner. It may hurt to hear but the recipient knows that the critic’s intent is pure because they know and can feel the love from him or her.

However, when criticism is offered in anger and hate, it is a very different animal and is glaringly obvious and recognizable in tone and intent from the former. There is no obvious concern for the person being criticized. And when the critic has a history of antagonism, no criticism, no matter how sincere the critic may be, will not be received well by its intended target.

Its very much like the criticism we Conservatives hear from Liberals. They have, as history has shown, no love for us and the criticism they offer is insincere at best. And that fact is patently obvious to any Conservative.

My final point, Christ allowed himself to be lifted up upon the Cross after hours of agonizing pain and humiliation (both verbal and physical) and yet never uttered a word in of antagonism towards his tormentors. In fact he said, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” His love for all mankind was still there even as they murdered him. Our Lord went through far worse than any of us will ever experience, are we greater than he that we can get so worked up about doctrinal differences? Shouldn’t we follow His example?


157 posted on 02/02/2009 6:57:06 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Zakeet

I am most definitely NOT anti-Mormon. Nor am I anti-Muslim.

I AM, however, anti-Mormonism, anti-Islam, anti-hindu, and against any other belief system that leads it’s followers away from Jesus and his message.


291 posted on 02/03/2009 11:08:58 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: Zakeet
Anti-Mormon

Yup. Just google "anti-Mormon"...FAIR LDS comes up #3; FARMS/www.mormonfortress #15...Jeff Lindsay #9 & #13...Mormonwiki.com #14...

Of course, even though BYU prof Robert Millet, based upon Alma 1:19-24, chides some LDS for becoming "anti-antis" -- you'll never hear the above LDS apologists reference themselves as "anti-antis"

These LDS apologists then tactically become exactly like the "pro-choice" apologists -- who then turn around and label pro-lifers as "anti-choice."

The reality is we favor both biological life in the womb and eternal spiritual life in the Mormon "church womb" (so to speak).

(We don't want anyone to be surprised by the reality that when the Mormons say ALL will be resurrected, that there is indeed a "resurrection unto damnation" (John 5:29) -- and that this resurrection is by no means a degree of glory!)

324 posted on 02/03/2009 1:19:44 PM PST by Colofornian
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