Sarah Palin Wants Creationism Taught In Schools

Dvorak Uncensored ^ | August 29, 2008 | KD Martin

[e.Shubee]

Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin wants creationism taught in science classes.

In a 2006 gubernatorial debate, the soon-to-be governor of Alaska said of evolution and creation education, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of education. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

[Hacksaw]

In a sense, yes, because all churches are subsidized in that they don't have to pay taxes.

That's not a subsidy.

[Hacksaw]

Running to a court to try to force the teaching of creationism in secular institutions is not the Christian way.

The only people that have been running to court are the ACLU.

[Barnacle]

That's a great collection of article. Thanks.

[Salvation]

My pleasure. Much more pleasant to collect those than the Obamanation/Pelosi/Biden threads. LOL!

[onedoug]

...lecture by Stephen Hawking where the professor says, "The universe can spontaneously create itself out of nothing."

How? Why?

[tpanther]

Have you ever heard of the inquisition? That same censorious spirit exists today in so-called Christian churches. See, Threats, Intimidation and the Kingdom of God for example.

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>>>>>>>>>> But we’re not talking about the Inquistion, we’re talking about the 21st century.

But let’s review how this country has taught science to children over the years.

In the 50’s prayer was forced from schools.

And gradually godless liberalism has:

BANNNED Christmas trees from schools.

BANNED the mere WORD Christmas from the school calendar here in Georgia.

BANNED little preschool kids from singing O’Christmas Tree in favor of O’HOLIDAY Tree.

But the worst insult of all: Decent Christian people are forced not only to pay for a non-insane non-anti-God atmosphere, but they’re forced to pay for the godless liberal schools TOO!

She said teach both which was EXACTLY what was done before godless liberals destroyed public education just like they did journalism, law, history, politics...etc. etc. etc.

The more I read about Palin the more I like!

[tpanther]

Science doesn’t care about the why.

>>>>>Correct, just as it doesn’t care if God doesn’t exist it shouldn’t be concerend if He exists.

Science isn’t religious which means it can’t be atheist either. And it doesn’t belong exclusively to atheists either. No more than history, politics, law, journalism or any other subject.

The answer is NOT to sue these SCIENTISTS into silence:

dissentfromdarwin.org

It’s UN-American!

Let BOTH be taught BY SCIENTISTS...I agree whoileheartedly with Palin, the more I read about her the better I feel about her!

[tpanther]

Amen to that....it shouldn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the only legal action Christian’s are engaged in is PRESERVING our culture, not enforcing it on others like godless liberals who hijack their own daughter like Michael Newdow to remove ‘Under God’ in the pledge.

[tpanther]

Running to a court to try to force the teaching of creationism in secular institutions is not the Christian way.

.......Godless liberals are used to Christians just turning the other cheek but they’ve been pushed too far.

The godless liberals decided to hijack the courts and sue Christianity out of the public view.

It won’t work and in fact I think what you’ve “accomplished” is going to come back to bite you and have the precise opposite effect.

What it WILL do is open up soime eyes about our rights!

Let me introduce you to:

ThomasMore.org

aclj.org

[tpanther]

You seemed to have wondered off your reservation!

[wolf78]

Science isn’t religious which means it can’t be atheist either.

Correct. Although from a purely philosophical (i.e. not political) standpoint I would categorize "atheism" as a religion, too, as it is the firm belief in the non-existence of God. Agnosticism, now that's something different.

And it doesn’t belong exclusively to atheists either.

Correct. Science is a method. There a biologists that recognize the facts of evolution and yet at the same time are deeply religious men that go to church every sunday, because they believe that the beauty of nature - their subject matter - is no coincidence. However, they do not base their professional findings on personal religion.

Let BOTH be taught BY SCIENTISTS...I agree whoileheartedly with Palin, the more I read about her the better I feel about her!

As I said: Both should be taught. But not as science. One is science, because it can be reproduced by experiment and observation, one is philosophy, or to be precise, teleology. One example: If creationism is correct, the earth and the universe are a few thousand years old and not billions. Which in turn would mean that Einstein and the theory of (general) relativity are wrong. Without which no satellite communication, no GPS, no stealth fighters, no intercontinental missiles etc.

Both science and Christianity are correct, in their own way, both must coexist seperately and not be mixed and the boundaries blurred. To quote Winston Churchill, who believed that the fate of our civilization rests upon a scientifically literate population:

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient" Rome.

[tpanther]

It sounds like we agree on pretty much everything else.

Scientists should be free to present their ideas, no matter their worldview.

This is not happening.

www.dissentfromdarwin.org

The godless are hijaqcking science just like they’re doing journalism, politics (in the hypocrat party), history, law...etc.

These insane lawsuits and censorship need to stop.

I like your last comments...science could be instrumental in “proving God exists” for all we know.

Under this hostile atmosphere it never could though.

In the current atmosphere science is being stifled by the hate-God anti-Christian godless liberals.

And one can see the results from the junk science of algoreacles hot air cult to the pathetic results of education or what passes for it in schools overall.

Kids aren’t graduating and if they are, their districts are so poor they can’t even meet the minimum standards and are decertified as Clayton County Georgia schools just were yesterday.

And NOW their solution is to make sure Christian kids learning about ID aren’t allowed to enter college?

That again isn’t about the science!

It’s not about the science or the education, it’s about socializing kids to the godless worldview.

Decent people shouldn’t have to pay for both private and public failed liberal schools.

[tpanther]

Correct. Science is a method. There a biologists that recognize the facts of evolution and yet at the same time are deeply religious men that go to church every sunday, because they believe that the beauty of nature - their subject matter - is no coincidence. However, they do not base their professional findings on personal religion.

>>>>>> Another thing....evolution THEORY isn’t even allowed to be challenged period and of course like everything else has been hijacked by godless liberals, taught to children as something it’s not.

www.dissentfromdarwin.org

Note these SCIENTISTS opinions.

[Zero Sum]

Apparently scientists would have us believe that there are constant, immutable, eternal laws that determine how the universe was made and how it works. Almost like some kinda Logos or something...

Wait, you don't mean to suggest that God made the universe, do you? Don't be silly! We'll have none of THAT nonsense in this modern, enlightened, and highly sophisticated age. ;)

[P-Marlowe]

The Troll has been Zotted.

[onedoug]

...constant, immutable, eternal....

'Reminds me of God, who otherwise can't really be imaged.

"If I knew God I'd be Him." --Josep Albo, 15 century

[MHGinTN]

Hmm, I smell troll ...

[metmom]

The medieval Christian church and some Christian denominations are infamous for not tolerating opposing points of view. Have you ever heard of the inquisition?

The secular humanists are infamous for not tolerating opposing points of view. Have you ever heard of communism? Lenin? Stalin? Pol Pot? Mao? Jong-il?

The secular humanists in this country who are silencing any opposition through litigation?

The current atmosphere within the scientific community which will destroy someone's career if they espouse any form of origins that is not completely hard core no intelligence allowed thinking?

[metmom]

As I see it, Democrats believe that everyone should pay taxes to contribute to the public good (Romans 13) whereas the Republicans believe in creating a slave class to serve the rich and powerful (Revelation 18).

LOL!! Bye troll.

[metmom]

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