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Pope offends Poland's Jews
The Australian ^ | May 27, 2006 | Correspondents in Warsaw

Posted on 05/30/2006 11:02:43 AM PDT by x5452

Pope offends Poland's Jews Correspondents in Warsaw May 27, 2006 THE Pope has upset the Jewish community in Poland by not stopping to pay tribute to the victims of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising against the Nazis. The heavily guarded Popemobile sped from Warsaw airport towards the Old Town district and the former ghetto area but barely slowed when it passed the memorial to the Jewish fighters.

Chief Rabbi of Warsaw Michael Schudrich, the Israeli ambassador and a handful of Jewish dignitaries were left standing as Benedict XVI flashed past with a wave.

Church officials said there had been no space in the schedule for a spontaneous stop.

Another consideration is that the ultra-nationalist Polish Government might have considered it a slight if the Pope had singled out slaughtered Jews rather than Polish partisans for special tribute on the first day of his visit.

Benedict, 79, has undertaken his four-day tour to honour his friend and mentor, the late John Paul, and build a rapport with Poland, a deeply Catholic country that both he and his Polish predecessor have said could help revive Christian beliefs and values in an increasingly secular Europe.

His visit is thought to also beaimed at breaking down lingering distrust in Poland towards him and Germany, which occupied the country during World War II and killed vast numbers of Poles and Jews.

In deference to Polish and Jewish sensitivities, Benedict will avoid speaking German except for when he prays tomorrow at the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau, where 1.5 million people, mostly Jews, were killed in World War II.

The concentration camp trip is fraught with significance for Catholic-Jewish relations, a favourite cause of John Paul, who also visited there in 1979.

In his memoirs, Benedict described being enrolled in the Hitler Youth against his will, then risking execution by deserting the army as a draftee days before the war ended.

At the airport, Benedict said of his Auschwitz visit: "There I hope especially to meet the survivors of Nazi terror who come from different countries, all of whom suffered under that tragic tyranny.

"Together we will pray that thewounds of the past century will heal, thanks to the remedy that God in his mercy has prescribed for us by calling us to forgive each other."

He drew a roar of applause at the airport when he launched into his welcoming speech in Polish, later switching to Italian.

"I have very much wanted to make this visit to the native land and people of my beloved predecessor, the servant of God, John Paul II," he said. "I have come to follow in the footsteps of his life."

Poles like Benedict's emphasis on continuing John Paul's legacy, but on the streets yesterday the view was that he did not quite match up to his predecessor.

"It's not the same as with our pope," said 75-year-old Wanda Nowicka, who was waiting on a city street to watch Benedict pass by as the pontiff headed to his first stop at Warsaw's Cathedral of StJohn the Baptist.

Aniela Kalisz, a 72-year-old who carried a small Vatican flag bearing Benedict's photo, said: "I don't mind if he is German. He is very friendly and he's learning Polish and he was a friend of John Paul."

Thousands of people lined the motorcade route from the airport to central Warsaw - a large crowd by European standards for a visit by the Roman Catholic leader, but small compared with the hundreds of thousands who turned out when John Paul flew into Warsaw in 1979 for the first time since assuming the papacy.

And pilgrims in their thousands poured into Warsaw's Pilsudski Square yesterday for Benedict's first, huge open-air mass, due to be held there last night. It is the same square in which John Paul inspired the Solidarity movement with his landmark appearance in 1979 during communist rule.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Judaism; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: catholic; jewish; poland; polish; pope; warsawghetto

1 posted on 05/30/2006 11:02:47 AM PDT by x5452
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To: x5452
The man has agreed to not even speak his own native tongue while visiting Poland, yet apparently not allowing other people to schedule his entire visit down to the last second is offensive.

What could possibly satisfy his critics?

2 posted on 05/30/2006 11:06:01 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I was watching Polish TV a lot during the visit - live coverage of the meetings, commentaries, etc.

I also read many newspapers.

And the funny thing is, that I've not seen any negative comment from the side of Jews living in Poland.

Whereas in online edtions of foreign media - I saw plenty of articles like this one.


3 posted on 05/30/2006 11:11:26 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: x5452

I wonder how many of these people are "upset?" Few if any I bet. Most likely a figment of the writer's imagination.


4 posted on 05/30/2006 11:12:21 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: wideawake
Well, this seems odd, "Together we will pray that thewounds of the past century will heal, thanks to the remedy that God in his mercy has prescribed for us by calling us to forgive each other."

Why would he say that when all the forgiving has to come from only one side? Doesn't it?

5 posted on 05/30/2006 11:16:27 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

He's obviously saying that God wants individuals to forgive one another the injuries that they visit on each other as individuals - there's no way that this can be construed as somehow calling on Germany to forgive Poland.


6 posted on 05/30/2006 11:19:40 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: lizol
Whereas in online edtions of foreign media - I saw plenty of articles like this one.

I noticed they didn't actually print any quotes. Perhaps they can read minds.

7 posted on 05/30/2006 11:25:38 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: x5452

He already visited Auschwitz. What more should he do?


8 posted on 05/30/2006 11:33:15 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: x5452

Methinks the reporter wanted to create the "controversy" and then report on it; to "make the news" as it were.

I don't think this report is credible.

-Theo


9 posted on 05/30/2006 11:49:11 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Rummyfan

He's got HUGE shoes to fill. I don't think I'd want to be the Pope that followed John Paul II.


10 posted on 05/30/2006 8:00:33 PM PDT by Romanov
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To: wideawake

The Holy See will never be accepted by his critics. They are looking for anything to claim as an offense.


11 posted on 05/30/2006 8:06:07 PM PDT by bwc (Big Centralized Government is turning us into just another clone of the European States)
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To: wideawake

Yet they don't actually quote a single "offended" Jew.

Looks like the writer took some liberties.


12 posted on 05/30/2006 8:09:10 PM PDT by Sometimes A River (Nations who do not know their national identity will become the prey of other nations - Atatürk)
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To: wideawake

There's no way of satisfying the critics and the Pope really shouldn't be exerting himself to do so. If the visit was that important, the people involved should have informed him well in advance, and I have no doubt that he would have stopped to see them.


13 posted on 05/30/2006 8:15:18 PM PDT by livius
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To: x5452
The Polish Resistance should ALSO have had a visit IF he had paid tribute to the Jews of the ghetto. See none or see them all. He made the right decision under the circumstances. Non-story.

I like this pope--and I'm not Catholic.

14 posted on 05/30/2006 8:16:35 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Teófilo
Some unnamed "Correspondents in Warsaw" make unsubstantiated claims. Those "correspondents" make charges which are not backed-up with quotes and you think the report is not credible.

You are SO untrusting of your fellow man. Repent before it is too late

15 posted on 05/31/2006 8:43:06 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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To: bornacatholic
You are SO untrusting of your fellow man. Repent before it is too late.

In this specific instance, this is a "fault" I'll be willing to bear. :-D

-Theo

17 posted on 05/31/2006 2:10:24 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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