To: churchillbuff
Oh, gee, not Bruce. I used to really like him.
But he is clearly totally deluded and wrong in this instance.
You know what the REAL difference is between Arnold and McC?
Arnold is working to DEFEAT Bustamante, while Tom is working hard to ELECT BUSTAMANTE.
To: FairOpinion
Oh, gee, not Bruce. I used to really like him.
I still do, more than ever. He understands that if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything. I don't know what it is that Arnold stands for - - and the folks who've fallen for him can't tell me, either.
To: FairOpinion
Well, hardly. Both candidates probably would like to win. Unfortunately the present situation results from the ongoing civil war between the pros and the moneymen in California, who are mostly pro-abort RINOs, and the Republican voters, who are mostly pretty conservative. If they could reach an agreement, things would be great. But they haven't been able to for almost as long as I can remember.
Contrary to what many Freepers seem to think, Bill Simon didn't run a bad campaign. He was defeated--by a small margin--because he was hammered by Davis and shut out by the media. But the key factor was that Karl Rove evidently opposed him and preferred to see him lose. Parsky was kept in place even after Riordan went down to defeat 2-1. No funding was raised for Simon. The RINOs continually leaked to the press that Simon was "running a bad campaign."
No wonder people aren't happy to have Arnold imposed on them. We are willing to compromise, but there has to be some give on both sides. We don't need a pro-abortion RINO sitting in one of the most important seats in the party, ready to cause more trouble in 2004 when the big tent Republicans are certain to raise the divisive issue of dropping the pro-life plank, as they regularly do every four years to the delight of the leftist media.
8 posted on
09/27/2003 12:54:01 PM PDT by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: FairOpinion
I think there is a segment among conservatives
that would rather see Davis survive the recall, or
if Davis stumbled, see Boozestamante defeat Arnold.
They have signed on to the old leninist dictim that
things have to get worse before they get better.
If this economy takes off next year they may find
that sitting on their hands or supporting a
candidate with little chance to win insured
RAT control in Sacramento for years to come.
I believe we have one shot, and we better make it.
13 posted on
09/27/2003 12:58:12 PM PDT by
AdvisorB
(Zindabad Azadi- Long live freedom as expressed by the Iranian students.)
To: FairOpinion
Claremont Institutes Annual Churchill Dinner
Bruce Herschensohn will be honored ... at the Beverly Hills Hotel at the Claremont Institutes Annual Churchill Dinner. Mr. Herschensohn, a Distinguished Fellow of the Institute, will speak on "The Future of U.S. Foreign Policy." A highly regarded television and radio commentator for the past two decades, he is well known across the country for his views on U.S. foreign and domestic politics. Among the books he has authored are The Gods of the Antenna, Lost Trumpets, and Hawks Without Wings, Doves Without Conscience. CONTACT: Mike Finch, Claremont Institute, 250 West First Street, Suite 330, Claremont, CA 91711, 909-621-6825, fax 909-626-8724,
http://www.claremont.org.
To: FairOpinion
Isn't bruce the guy who lost because of his proclivity to visit "the champagne room" in the local strip clubs?
He also got caught buying porn or something more questionable.
It was a smear campaign, but as I remember he copped to it... and the fundies deserted him.
I did not care at the time.
But, in retrospect, you DO have to question his judgement. He did that stuff WHILE SEEKING office... It was not something from his distant past.
Now that he has come out for McClinton, I think that his "questionable judgement" issue, has been confirmed.
Hershenson's endorsement, is the virtual KISS of death for McC.
To: FairOpinion
But he is clearly totally deluded and wrong in this instance. Could it be that you're totally deluded and wrong, or would that be a personal attack for me to say that? Of course, it is not be a personal attack for you to say that of Bruce Herschensohn. Anything said against a conservative who stands for principle is, by definition, not a personal attack -- no matter how insulting it is.
Isn't it interesting how embracing Schwarzenegger as a candidate has made all you people end up despising the most honorable and principled among us?
37 posted on
09/27/2003 1:21:38 PM PDT by
JoeSchem
To: FairOpinion
"You know what the REAL difference is between Arnold and McC? Arnold is working to DEFEAT Bustamante, while Tom is working hard to ELECT BUSTAMANTE." Yes, Fair, you have said it well. California is dominated by democrats. McC will NOT get democrat votes...Arnold will. It may be very sad news for some of you, but it's true. Of course, this is just my opinion and you can tell me I'm misguided if you like.
64 posted on
09/27/2003 2:00:07 PM PDT by
kimchi lover
(When will the left learn that Bush is NOT the enemy?)
To: FairOpinion
Why must conservatives always compromise their principles? It makes better sense for bend-with-the-wind, middle-of-the-road moderates to compromise and go with the conservatives who stake their positions guided by a strong moral compass. It takes an amazing amount of ego and narcissism for (R)nold to think he deserves to run California. He should do one for the team and use his celebrity to campaign for McClintock, but he won't because that isn't his role. His role is to block a real conservative and protect liberalism in Cali. Way to be manipulated, stooges Arnold supporters.
104 posted on
09/27/2003 3:06:37 PM PDT by
Nephi
(Compassionate conservativism: Sure it's socialism, but what are you gonna do, vote for Nikita Dean?)
To: marajade; fqued
See #4: "...Tom is working hard to elect Bustamante"
To: FairOpinion
Amen, and Tom's reward for his misbehavior will be to be left irrelevant in the party for now on.
226 posted on
09/28/2003 11:16:46 PM PDT by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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