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To: FairOpinion
Well, hardly. Both candidates probably would like to win. Unfortunately the present situation results from the ongoing civil war between the pros and the moneymen in California, who are mostly pro-abort RINOs, and the Republican voters, who are mostly pretty conservative. If they could reach an agreement, things would be great. But they haven't been able to for almost as long as I can remember.

Contrary to what many Freepers seem to think, Bill Simon didn't run a bad campaign. He was defeated--by a small margin--because he was hammered by Davis and shut out by the media. But the key factor was that Karl Rove evidently opposed him and preferred to see him lose. Parsky was kept in place even after Riordan went down to defeat 2-1. No funding was raised for Simon. The RINOs continually leaked to the press that Simon was "running a bad campaign."

No wonder people aren't happy to have Arnold imposed on them. We are willing to compromise, but there has to be some give on both sides. We don't need a pro-abortion RINO sitting in one of the most important seats in the party, ready to cause more trouble in 2004 when the big tent Republicans are certain to raise the divisive issue of dropping the pro-life plank, as they regularly do every four years to the delight of the leftist media.
8 posted on 09/27/2003 12:54:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero; Reagan Man
I consider Herschensohn to be the North Star of conservatism. Forget what the county chairmen or even Issa say; Herschensohn speaks with an independent perspective -- he isn't entagled with the party apparatus and doesn't worry about the repurcussions that his comments might have in back rooms. He sizes up the situation, determines what's right and what's wrong -- and calls it as he sees it.
11 posted on 09/27/2003 12:58:09 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Cicero
Great post.
15 posted on 09/27/2003 12:59:32 PM PDT by Kevin Curry ("That everything has to be provided for the people." -- A. Schwarzenegger, Fiscal Conservative)
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To: Cicero
"Both candidates probably would like to win."

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Wrong.

McClintock KNOWS he can't win. He is in the race for the specific purpose to ELECT BUSTAMANTE. His own words damn him.

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"Burton, one of the more conservative members of Congress, also said McClintock had seemed to suggest that it would be acceptable for a Democrat to hold the governor's office, because he might create a clamor for a Republican in 2006.

He said McClintock had drawn a historical parallel to the 1980 presidential election, when Republican Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter, en route to a two-term presidency.

"I was saying I hated to see the Democrats and especially Gray Davis keep control, and Bustamante may want to give California back to Mexico — I said that tongue in cheek," Burton said, referring to the incumbent Davis and to Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante. "And he said we had four years of Jimmy Carter and eight years of Ronald Reagan and that was a fair exchange. And the implication was maybe that leaving the Democrats in would show that they can't govern properly."

McClintock-Burton phone call

And look at McC's other actions: he is ignoring all the pleadings from his fellow Republicans, including the CA GOP, and other conservatives, he is taking indidan gambling money -- which is given with the specific purpose of splitting the vote, since they are major contributors to Bustamante ---, he never attacks Davis and Bustamante, but continuously attacks his fellow Republican.

17 posted on 09/27/2003 1:00:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Cicero
Speaking of the feud, it is interesting to note that Herschensohn would be a Senator today if Wilson had appointed him as his replacement instead of Wilson's catspaw, Seymour. The battles between the Wilson wing of the party and the conservative wing are still being played out today.
42 posted on 09/27/2003 1:28:05 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Cicero
Well said.

>>>We don't need a pro-abortion RINO sitting in one of the most important seats in the party, ready to cause more trouble in 2004 when the big tent Republicans are certain to raise the divisive issue of dropping the pro-life plank, as they regularly do every four years to the delight of the leftist media.

If that happens, the GOP is history. They can kiss their ass goodbye!

95 posted on 09/27/2003 2:51:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: Cicero
re#8

too true, Cicero, and they even forced Simon to take on and pay the favorite DC consultants whose advice was the
biggest problem in Simon's "bad campaign"...

Parsky intends to orchestrate the death of the conservative part of the CA GOP and by starving a the media reply to the $80 Million Davis attack, doomed the
turn out by convincing too many Republicans that Simon
didn't deserve their time and vote, which besides the non funding of McClintock's run, more than killed his election since he got so much crossover, he lost by less than the
CA fraud numbers = 17,000 votes.

Davis may be counting on the fraud at the polls this time himself... the Kern Co. investigation done by the Bakersfield California estimate that in one area, interviews uncovered roughly 1700 tainted ballots in a 2400 voter pool... but the public continues to snooze.
111 posted on 09/27/2003 3:57:28 PM PDT by christynsoldier (remember, a vote for Bubbanegger is a vote for the Kennedy clan...)
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