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New California Field Poll leaked
Field Poll | September 20, 2003 | Field Poll

Posted on 09/20/2003 3:21:43 PM PDT by carbon14

Recall (yes)...53%

Bustamante.....28% Schwarzenegger.26% MadClintock....14%

For comparison (Field Poll August 18) Bustamante.....25% Schwarzenegger.22% MadClintock.....9% Simon...........8% Ueberroth.......5% Huffington......2%


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: california; fieldpoll; mcclintock; polls; recall; schwarzenegger
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To: Roscoe
I'd like to see him do a competent job in a city council seat before trying out for the highest office in the state.
121 posted on 09/20/2003 4:28:53 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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To: Seeking the truth
Thank you for the kind words.
122 posted on 09/20/2003 4:30:03 PM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: BlueNgold
McClintock may tear apart A.S. in the debate

I'm becoming more convinced that the average FReeper lives in a dream world. Who in their right mind believes that AS is going to debate McC on his own turf? That is, why would AS even stoop to the level of debating a David Stockman type who clearly has the advantage over specific budgetary information?

Jeez, doesn't anybody here understand politics? AS is going to be playing to the TV audience. He is, after all, an actor (even if he is a poor one at that). His key is leadership and inspiration - the debate will just be a showcase to see (1) where he wants to take the state; and (2) whether a majority of voters wants to go there with him.

If McC doesn't watch it, he may get so frustrated that he might have his own Caine Mutiny moment (Captain Queeg ).

123 posted on 09/20/2003 4:30:44 PM PDT by Snerfling
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To: Snerfling
If that happens, heads will roll at the party central office. The grassroots guys got Simon through the primaries and they'll sack Parsky et al if they do this. Or do you think that the party doesn't need the grass roots? Again, if this happens, McC is made into a martyr, and that would spell the end of the line for the liberal leaders in the GOP. McC would probably then run for Republican party state chairman or whatever the position is and clean house. Then, he'd send the $$ out to conservative politicians in their races across the state. Hmm. Looks like McC could win big either way.
124 posted on 09/20/2003 4:31:20 PM PDT by =Intervention= (Moderatism has no ideals worth fighting for, and her champions are parasites upon the republic.)
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To: goldstategop
Large Breasts and Arnold are tied

It's become evident by now that large breasts dominate your mind, but Bustamante translates to Bust (busta) Lover (amante), not Large Breasts.
125 posted on 09/20/2003 4:32:07 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: =Intervention=
There you go again, confusing liberals and leftists, there is no such thing as an environmental liberal, they are leftists. The environmental issue is another tool on the leftist work bench, used for group think.
126 posted on 09/20/2003 4:32:25 PM PDT by Eva
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To: sruleoflaw
THERE IS NO OR LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRUZ AND ARNOLD on these issues -- Family Leave Act, Prop. 54, minimum wage laws, vouchers, Prop. 187, abortion, homosexual domestic partnerships.

But there's an enormous difference when it comes to cruz's already proposed $8 BILLION tax increase AND Arnold's very real ability to defeat bustamante compared to Tom's slim & none.

I have been hearing the same manure from the moderate/LOSER wing of the GOP for 40 years. You were wrong about Reagan and you'll be wrong about McClintock. SHOVE OFF...and prepare to watch your boy slapped, kicked and hog-tied on Wednesday by McClintock.

I was wrong about Reagan? lol! I worked on the man's campaign in the Orange County headquarters. Feel like an idiot? You should.

"Dear Mr. Reagan, it should be obvious to you now that you can never be elected governor. Please put aside your ego, for the good of our party, and get behind the one man who is moderate enough to appeal to California voters - - San Francisco Mayor George Christopher." Look Magazine 1966 LOSERS THEN, LOSERS NOW.

Only a fool would compare 1966 California to California of today. Good show! lol!

127 posted on 09/20/2003 4:32:38 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: BlueNgold
And of course we all know how accurate online polls are .... lmao

Are you seriously saying that FR/Jim Rob rigged the FR polls?

Are you seriously saying that most Freepers support Ahnold even though all FR polls show the opposite?

Are you that much in denial of the fact that most Freepers do NOT support Ahnold?

128 posted on 09/20/2003 4:33:06 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (McDonald Clan - Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shout for Brew!)
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To: thoughtomator
The best result is if (R)nold runs left and cuts into the Busty vote, and the conservative vote coalesces around McClintock

Maybe for conservative FReepers, but would you really want to be in McC's shoes with AS as governor? Poor Tom's only going to have 13 more months of employment before he has to go out in the private sector for the first time in his life.

129 posted on 09/20/2003 4:33:20 PM PDT by Snerfling
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To: monkeyshine
"If I had my drothers, the tax system would probably be totally reversed -- with the bulk of revenues staying in the local area where I, the citizen, could decide its use, and the smallest portion going to the feds to defend the nation and manage the federal courts."

Amen. And repealing the 16th and 17th amendments would go far toward dismantling the federal beast and restoring Constitutionally limited government. And couple that with abolishing all the socialist hogwash that has been enacted via stretching the "General Welfare" and "Commerce" clauses waaay beyond any semblance of original intent.

130 posted on 09/20/2003 4:34:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Snerfling
"Who in their right mind believes that AS is going to debate McC on his own turf?"

McC's turf, in this statement must be construed rather largely! Usually candidates debate each other to show the voter what they've got to offer. Only on FR and DU (the latter, usually) do you see advocating candidates who will not debate and who just spout platitudes...

131 posted on 09/20/2003 4:34:38 PM PDT by =Intervention= (Moderatism has no ideals worth fighting for, and her champions are parasites upon the republic.)
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To: Snerfling
How compassionate of you. I am sure that Tom can handle himself. If nothing else, he will be able to enrich himself on the conservative lecture circuit.
132 posted on 09/20/2003 4:34:51 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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To: thoughtomator
I'd like to see him do a competent job in a city council

Start him off with a Party county central committee seat. As an alternate.

133 posted on 09/20/2003 4:36:19 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: deport
Apparently, you did not understand the context of my response. I cited the FR polls in a response I directed to Cyncooper as a rebuttal to her claim that McClintock supporters on FR are a small group, when in fact, they are in the majority.

Read the previous posts and perhaps you will get up to speed.

134 posted on 09/20/2003 4:36:36 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (McDonald Clan - Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shout for Brew!)
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To: Eva
So you're saying that liberals are not leftists? *shaking head amazed* Please show me a liberal who is NOT a leftist. For that matter, show me a liberal politician who actually is proud of his/her country!
135 posted on 09/20/2003 4:37:04 PM PDT by =Intervention= (Moderatism has no ideals worth fighting for, and her champions are parasites upon the republic.)
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To: BlueNgold
>>>Find one of my posts ranting about the self-annointed purist conservatives for a more detailed response to the 'you're no conservative' comment ...

I'm not looking for anything. If you've got something to say, say it.

Most of the hard core, rightwing ideologues have left FreeRepublic for greener pastures, either by their own choosing or by banishment decision of JimRob's. So don't give me your rhetoric about conservative purists on FreeRepublic. It's fact ofd life, there are impractical idealists everywhere, even in the land of oz, California!

For this conservative Republican and many others around here, we don't believe Arnold holds conservative viewponts and doesn't advance the conservative agenda or the GOP party platform either. If you evaluate Arnold's opinions and analyze his values and beliefs, you'd see the facts. Arnold is left of center and a social liberal. Just because he has an R next to his name, shouldn't compell Republicans to vote for him. Issues are always relevent and principles are critically important. They shouldn't be set aside to elect a liberal. The level of infatuation for Arnold's candidacy has been obscene.

The facts simply aren't on your side.

Granted, McClintock is the long shot, but he's also the only conservative Republican running in the recall election campaign.

136 posted on 09/20/2003 4:37:04 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: =Intervention=
Looks like McC could win big either way.

Brother, you evidently don't work in the real world. In the real world, people look for revenge. With AS as governor, do you think GWB will make a couple of trips out West to try and lock up Calif's 54 electoral votes? Do you think ANYBODY at any level with the GOP will ever have anything to do with McC again after what he almost did to this election? Christ, to have both AS and Rove pissed means he might not even get a good job in the private sector.

137 posted on 09/20/2003 4:37:47 PM PDT by Snerfling
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To: =Intervention=
You are obviously unaware of who his chief political advisers are, all stronger conservatives than A.S. himself.

The concept of growing the conservative movement is not tied intrinsicly to elections. The grass roots education and growth of among the population does not rely upon the 'nomination' or support by the party of any particular individual in any given electoral race. However, growth is not, IMLTHO, forwarded by the party supporting candidates who simply cannot win. This is CA. An (R) needs more than just party line conservative support. A.S. 'throwing' his support to McC will not cause the (D)s and (I)s supporting A.S. to move to the McC camp. However, the converse is true, most McC supporters would vote for A.S. over C.B. and that almost ensures an A.S. victory. This is the reality we face. There is no viable classic conservative and the day of choice is coming soon.

Maybe you all can just write in Pat Buchanen ... his chances are almost as good ....

138 posted on 09/20/2003 4:37:51 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: cyncooper
Thank you for the kind words

You're welcome.

Now, have you apologized to thoughtomater for your kind (albeit inaccurate) words to him?

139 posted on 09/20/2003 4:39:48 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (McDonald Clan - Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shout for Brew!)
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To: South40; All
Here's something else to ponder...

Say McC is Governor, and decides to go to San Diego to hold a conference with local businesses and find out their businesses have been hurt because of say...Workmen's Comp.

Who in the media will cover it? Will it get National exposure?

Now, what if ARNOLD did the same thing?

Answer:

McC = no coverage = legislature still doing what it's doing now, and blaming the whole mess on McC's doings.

ARNOLD = Statewide media coverage, National media coverage, and legislature HAVING to do something or risk being exposed on television as not responding to a problem the media brought to CA and the Nation's attention.

GET IT???

140 posted on 09/20/2003 4:40:06 PM PDT by NordP (Peace Through Strength, Character, & Values)
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