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This is not your father's (Episcopal) Church anymore (Cal Thomas weighs in on "gay" bishop)
Modesto Bee ^ | Aug 6 03 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 08/06/2003 9:56:33 PM PDT by churchillbuff

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:56:04 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

An Episcopalian friend of mine, reacting to the elevation of an openly homosexual priest to the office of bishop, said to me, "If you're a heterosexual clergyman and you're having sex outside marriage, you can be expelled. But if you're a homosexual clergyman having sex outside marriage, they rejoice." Most denominations that call themselves Christian take the Bible as their text for spiritual and relational instruction. Some in the Episcopal Church take a liberal view of the Bible, just as some do of the U.S. Constitution - it must be constantly updated to suit cultural trends. This view lends itself to constant misinterpretation and confusion. Eventually, it leads to religious or political heresy.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: calthomas; episcopal; fallout; generobinson; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; queer; schism; unqualified
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1 posted on 08/06/2003 9:56:34 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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All I can say is AMEN!
2 posted on 08/06/2003 10:04:10 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Perhaps holiness, like the word "is" during the Clinton administration, depends on what one means at a given moment.

.....and to whom one means it, and about whom, and when. Context, after all, is everything to a liberal. It is the grammatical and semiotic keystone of liberal Newspeak.

"Don't worry about what the Bible says: just listen to me."

3 posted on 08/06/2003 10:06:49 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: churchillbuff
"If you're a heterosexual clergyman and you're having sex outside marriage, you can be expelled. But if you're a homosexual clergyman having sex outside marriage, they rejoice."

Another direct blow to human morality.

4 posted on 08/06/2003 10:09:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: churchillbuff

Amen.

5 posted on 08/06/2003 10:14:26 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: churchillbuff
Thanks for the post. I left the Episcopal church 7 years ago and am currently attending an Assemblys of God Church - oh how refreshing!!

6 posted on 08/06/2003 10:21:33 PM PDT by MelBelle
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To: LiteKeeper
With this rebuff to Biblical authority, the Episcopal Church has become the model denomination for a post-Biblical era.

7 posted on 08/06/2003 10:23:27 PM PDT by MadeInOhio
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To: churchillbuff
Where do democrats go to church?
8 posted on 08/06/2003 10:35:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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Where do democrats go to church?

Democrats worship themselves.

9 posted on 08/06/2003 10:40:21 PM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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To: churchillbuff
The Protestant Hymnal standard, "Faith of Our Fathers" has no meaning for these people.
10 posted on 08/06/2003 10:48:47 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Save Traditional Marriage -- It's for the Children!)
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To: churchillbuff; All
Anyone know Cal's religious affiliation?
11 posted on 08/06/2003 11:00:07 PM PDT by polemikos (Ecce Agnus Dei)
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To: longtermmemmory
The democrats that I know are VERY LIBERAL and consistently attend the Roman Catholic church....like the Kennedys and Cuomos
12 posted on 08/06/2003 11:29:35 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: polemikos
Cal is Protestant by affiliation but would claim Chirstian as his belief
13 posted on 08/06/2003 11:30:31 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: churchillbuff
If a person knows God, then he also should know when God has left the building. The question he must then ask is "Why am I still here?" The lampstand is gone from the Episcopal Church, but there are plenty of other churches where it remains.
14 posted on 08/06/2003 11:45:46 PM PDT by man of Yosemite ("When a man decides to do something everyday, that's about when he stops doing it.")
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JESUS DEFINES MARRIAGE: "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore, they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." -from THE BIBLE: Matthew 19:4-6

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The latest edition of THE CULTURE AND FAMILY REPORT is online for your perusal!

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16 posted on 08/07/2003 12:34:17 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: jnarcus
Ted Kennedy attends church only wen called upon to attend a funeral or something of that nature. I'm pretty sure that he doesn't try too hard to maintain the illusion of his catholicism.
Cal Thomas is a Catholic, the genuine article, to the best of my knowledge.
Is there any question anymore that we are under a relentless assault to normalize perversity in the form of the gay agenda? Any question that this is a cohesive and comprehensive action to overturn the hardwon wisdom of the millenia in regards to the basis of human society?
17 posted on 08/07/2003 12:37:30 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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Is there any question anymore that we are under a relentless assault to normalize perversity in the form of the gay agenda?

Not since posters like Bryan and EdReform put up big chunks of Marshall Kirk and "Erastes Pill"'s article "Overhauling Straight America" on FR, the gay-newsweekly article that, in Kirk's hands, eventually became After the Ball.

18 posted on 08/07/2003 2:03:38 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Usquequo, Domine?)
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To: Bryan; EdReform
Pinging for possible comments.........
19 posted on 08/07/2003 2:04:49 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Usquequo, Domine?)
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To: churchillbuff
RIP, the Episcopal Church. Committed ethical suicide, 2003.

20 posted on 08/07/2003 2:06:21 AM PDT by Steely Glint ("Political language...is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable..." - G. Orwell)
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