Freeper Grassroots Movement to Re-Elect Bush

July 24, 2003 | nwrep

[nwrep]

I want to kick off a grass-roots movement to educate and inform discerning Democrats about the real nature of their party and am soliciting suggestions from Freepers. The reasons I am doing this are several, as listed below:

* I have several conservative Democrat friends who have always voted D, but who disagree with the stance of their party on issues like AA, tax-cuts, and regulations.

* These people do not understand that regardless of the "moderate" local Dem candidate they vote for, the party agenda is driven in Congress by an extremely liberal faction of the party.

* Case in point #1: I alerted one friend to Rep. Rangel's remarks about the death of Hussein's sons yesterday (Rangel said it was "illegal" for the US to kill them). The friend said he disagreed with Rangel, and the majority of the Dems would similarly disagree with the Congressman. I asked this friend if he knew who Rangel was. He had never heard of him. I informed him coolly that if the Dem regain the House, Rangel would become the Chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Cte., where all spending bills originate, and that he is one of the most influential members of his party in the House. The friend was shocked.

* Case in point #2: I asked another Dem friend what he thought of Kerry. He gave me a canned response about his Vietnam service, etc. I then asked him if he knew about his anti-Vietnam war stance. He said he did not, but that his parents (lifelong Dem voters like himself) hated Jane Fonda and everything she stood for. I then forwarded him the NewsMax expose of Kerr's Vietnam stance, his anti-war book, his rallies with Fonda and Ramsey Clark, and his statement to the US Senate in 1971. After reading all that, he said he was disgusted, and would forward it to his mother. He conceded that if Kerry were to be the nominee, he would vote for Bush.

* The problem is that these Dem voters are blissfully unaware of the voting records of their candidates and representatives. All they go by are finely crafted campaign statements issued during the last few weeks before the election where they pay homage to FDR, Truman and JFK. As a result, these dopey Dem voters (like my friends and their parents) continue voting for these candidates thinking they are voting for FDR/JFK-like candidates.

We need to educate these people and keep them as well informed as we Freepers are about the real day to day legislative agenda of the Rat Party. We need to highlight how they continue to vote against the best interest of these conservative, patriotic Democrats (like my friends) and how they continue to display hypocrisy by constantly changing their stance on major issues.

How do we do this?

[Fearless Flyers]

Theres no point continuing the discussion that is the second time you quoted me out of context, when a full quote would have shown there was more in common then oppostition. Either you need to steal Laz's tag line, gain better comprehension skills, or stop running away from the truth. C'ya

[Joe Hadenuf]

Going back several hundred years into the past again, eh louie? Get yourself updated.

Is this how your going to fight for your homeland louie, by jumping in a raft? LOL! Yeah, I think you would.

[justshe]

Do you understand this? What my or your ancestors did does not matter a lick now. It's 2003, not 1890.

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UNLESS....it comes to the Founding Fathers, correct?

THOSE ancestors you pay attention to...and revere, correct?

At least I HOPE you do.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I'll leave for Cuba to free her, the second you hit the borders and stop the "invasion".

[jpsb]

#37The solution is to scrape the progressive income tax and replace it with a combination of a flat across the board tariff and a flat nation sales tax. This change in tax and trade policy might mean that the federal government would be forced to abandon some of the responsibilities that it has taken upon itself. Could be that a federal government might have to tighten it’s belt and forgo dumping 15 billion dollar in Africa, or maybe even some of socialistic programs here a home.

As you can see they offer no solutions, plans, or candidates. They just offer up endless gloom and malcontentism.

You are a funny guy.

[Sabertooth]

What, exactly, IS your intent by continuing to raise this issue?

Don't try to play this on me.

I raised no issue here, and you're fully aware of that. I've responded to issues raised by others, such as I'll do with you now.

From your #264, on this thread...

Should one draw the conclusion that since the person being "questioned" is still posting, that JR has MADE the decision and this 'side-issue' should be dropped?

If it's acceptable to interpret silences as answers, how shall we interpret your silence as to the question of posters who violate posting guidelines established by Free Republic's management, and gloat about it in the forum?

Does your silence in this regard indicate you approve of gloating over the violation of posting guidelines?

What is your purpose in avoiding this question?

[Luis Gonzalez]

"I speak of millions entering our country illegally, literally choking off our system, and you demand to know about my ancestors and what their immigration status may have been, hundreds of years ago."

....and here you sit, night after night, pounding on a keyboard while the country is being invaded?

Is this how you defend our country Joey?

[jpsb]

Child tax credit, yea tax rebate to people that don't pay taxes. Very socialist thing to do. Marx would be proud of you and your commie friends. Why don't you just admit you are at socialist/communinst?

[Dane]

Child tax credit, yea tax rebate to people that don't pay taxes.

Uh jp, all the checks that have been sent out have gone to people who have paid taxes, but you already knew that.

[jpsb]

No I did not know that, I am under the impression that every one, including the earned income tax people get a rebate check. Am I wrong?

[Luis Gonzalez]

It's a dead issue Toothy, it's been handled...like other issues have been dealt with in the past.

But you, and the cabal, can't take it...you can't believe that the owner does not run the site according to your wishes.

It's your ego isn't?

That, and you miss Bill...

Keep harping on it, nothing will bring me more pleasure.

[jpsb]

Do the earned income tax credit, people get a depentant child rebate check?

[Dane]

Am I wrong?

The bill you are talking about is still bottled up in committee.

[Joe Hadenuf]

....and here you sit, night after night, pounding on a keyboard while the country is being invaded?

Is this how you defend our country Joey?

No, I plan on jumping on a raft and fleeing. LOL! Hehehe.

You have not a clue what I and others are doing. One day I am very confident that you, and others like you will. American's have always been a very patient people, a very giving and compassionate people. Those qualities are wearing critically thin, you have no idea.

[jpsb]

Ok, thanks, I was wrong on that score.

[justshe]

Saber, this is beneath you. You referred me to post #140 and asked me to read the 'gloating'.

You have an issue with Luis. Fine.

I simply pointed to your own words....that you have accepted the decision of the owner of this forum and you stated such.

You continue to question others about the intent and decision of the owner of this forum in order to get others to take sides. You ask others to take a position about the 'abuse of forum guidelines'. I will not do that.

JR has made his decision. It is NOT something I shall debate. If you have a problem with JR's decision...than I suggest you discuss it with him.

Unless I am mistaken....you have NOT raised this issue with JR on this thread. Why not?

If it's acceptable to interpret silences as answers, how shall we interpret your silence as to the question of posters who violate posting guidelines established by Free Republic's management, and gloat about it in the forum?

Does your silence in this regard indicate you approve of gloating over the violation of posting guidelines?

Courtesy ping to Jim Robinson.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Come on...you can't be telling me that our Country is being invaded and all you are doing is pounding on a keyboard night after night?

At least, we had enough brains to get out!

You don't have enough gumption to get up out of your chair!

Or maybe, we should look at your actions (or lack of) and draw the conclusion that there really is no invasion after all.

"American's have always been a very patient people"

Psst...Joey...I'm an American.

:-)

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

THANKS.

CHEERS.

I HOPE THIS IS A VERY LONG AND FULL OF INFO THREAD.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Psst...Joey...I'm an American.

You are AINO!

[Joe Hadenuf]

You have not a clue louie.

Hey, who was using multiple screen names on this site?