Freeper Grassroots Movement to Re-Elect Bush

July 24, 2003 | nwrep

[nwrep]

I want to kick off a grass-roots movement to educate and inform discerning Democrats about the real nature of their party and am soliciting suggestions from Freepers. The reasons I am doing this are several, as listed below:

* I have several conservative Democrat friends who have always voted D, but who disagree with the stance of their party on issues like AA, tax-cuts, and regulations.

* These people do not understand that regardless of the "moderate" local Dem candidate they vote for, the party agenda is driven in Congress by an extremely liberal faction of the party.

* Case in point #1: I alerted one friend to Rep. Rangel's remarks about the death of Hussein's sons yesterday (Rangel said it was "illegal" for the US to kill them). The friend said he disagreed with Rangel, and the majority of the Dems would similarly disagree with the Congressman. I asked this friend if he knew who Rangel was. He had never heard of him. I informed him coolly that if the Dem regain the House, Rangel would become the Chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Cte., where all spending bills originate, and that he is one of the most influential members of his party in the House. The friend was shocked.

* Case in point #2: I asked another Dem friend what he thought of Kerry. He gave me a canned response about his Vietnam service, etc. I then asked him if he knew about his anti-Vietnam war stance. He said he did not, but that his parents (lifelong Dem voters like himself) hated Jane Fonda and everything she stood for. I then forwarded him the NewsMax expose of Kerr's Vietnam stance, his anti-war book, his rallies with Fonda and Ramsey Clark, and his statement to the US Senate in 1971. After reading all that, he said he was disgusted, and would forward it to his mother. He conceded that if Kerry were to be the nominee, he would vote for Bush.

* The problem is that these Dem voters are blissfully unaware of the voting records of their candidates and representatives. All they go by are finely crafted campaign statements issued during the last few weeks before the election where they pay homage to FDR, Truman and JFK. As a result, these dopey Dem voters (like my friends and their parents) continue voting for these candidates thinking they are voting for FDR/JFK-like candidates.

We need to educate these people and keep them as well informed as we Freepers are about the real day to day legislative agenda of the Rat Party. We need to highlight how they continue to vote against the best interest of these conservative, patriotic Democrats (like my friends) and how they continue to display hypocrisy by constantly changing their stance on major issues.

How do we do this?

[Maria S]

Give them copies of 'Dereliction of Duty'...not just because of what Clinton did and didn't do, but also because of what the author has to say about Hillary. Don't kid yourselves, folks...SHE'S the problem we've all got to start preparing for.

[Maria S]

'Hell to Pay', by the late Barbara Olson, is a great textbook on Hillary's shenanigans.

[Bob J]

How do we do this?

Media.

[floriduh voter]

Gentle prodding worked for me. They are used to a fight so it's a matter of not fighting with them. Instead, point out to them web sites that show support for President Bush and for conservatism in general. There is a free republic web ring but I'm still trying to work my way through it. Lots of freepers and other conservatives have their own web sites because they so believe in President Bush and the GOP.

The conservative movement is huge and don't your dem friends ever tire of all the negativity and opinions disguised as facts from the DNC?

Talk in sound bites backed by careful research instead of getting into circular discussions with your dem friends.

Last but not least, send them to my web site. I don't attack dem voters, just DNC tactics. See tag line. I need some interaction over there. The Feedback Form is at the bottom of my home page.

(Fla freepers win big for Florida candidates with little fanfare)

[floriduh voter]

Bottom line is that we can't behave like the DNC which we don't. Establish communication before gentle prodding kind of what you said. And, there's no need to get pushy unless they are undecided two weeks before election day 2004. It's kind of like selling insurance. What are the risks of not re-electing President Bush? I say they're too high.

[floriduh voter]

Bottom line is that we can't behave like the DNC which we don't. Establish communication before gentle prodding kind of what you said. And, there's no need to get pushy unless they are undecided two weeks before election day 2004. It's kind of like selling insurance. What are the risks of not re-electing President Bush? I say they're too high.

[floriduh voter]

Bottom line is that we can't behave like the DNC which we don't. Establish communication before gentle prodding kind of what you said. And, there's no need to get pushy unless they are undecided two weeks before election day 2004. It's kind of like selling insurance. What are the risks of not re-electing President Bush? I say they're too high.

[floriduh voter]

Bottom line is that we can't behave like the DNC which we don't. Establish communication before gentle prodding kind of what you said. And, there's no need to get pushy unless they are undecided two weeks before election day 2004. It's kind of like selling insurance. What are the risks of not re-electing President Bush? I say they're too high.

[floriduh voter]

Have "fun" at an event or rally with them in tow. Politics at the grassroots level is lots of fun, especially a GOP rally. Excitement as opposed to misery.

[floriduh voter]

Barbara Olson completed The Final Days before her tragic murder. It goes beyond HRC taking the silverware. Or, there are always political cartoons such as this one.

[floriduh voter]

Oops. My pc hiccuped.

[sarasmom]

Bush is hell bent on supporting and rewarding illegal immigration.
My neighbor owns a small business.He employs three men fulltime.His company mows lawns for a living.
My best friend is a Democrat.
She is livid about illegal immigrants.
And you think people will rally around GWB while he welcomes the illegals and alienates the silent majority of non-partisan voters?
He better cough up a palatable explanation for his ghastly position on this issue besides "compassion", or he is in serious jeapordy next year.
I am very serious about this FV, GWB cant be so naive as to think the TV media crap about Nigerian uranium is an issue to the USA street, can he?
The election is his to lose, and so far, he will lose it.
Because he refuses to represent the will of the majority of the people of the USA on what the majority of the grassroots see as the number one domestic agenda for the federal government.The maintenance of the USA as a free and sovereign country.
Kudos to him for his leadership on the WOT.
People who want him to continue, better start praying he can talk his way out of open borders and the furthor degredation of the lifestyles of the poor and honest.

[MeekOneGOP]

* The problem is that these Dem voters are blissfully unaware of the voting records of their candidates and representatives. All they go by are finely crafted campaign statements issued during the last few weeks before the election where they pay homage to FDR, Truman and JFK. As a result, these dopey Dem voters (like my friends and their parents) continue voting for these candidates thinking they are voting for FDR/JFK-like candidates.

Here is a tool I use all the time to check folks voting record out:

American Conservative Union's
Annual Rating of Congress

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ACU has rated every member of the House and Senate since 1971. Click here for archived ratings prior to 1999. As the definitive conservative rating listed in all major political almanacs and reference guides, the ACU ratings are often quoted by the media and are extensively used by political strategists and candidates running for public office.

[floriduh voter]

Well, Dubya made Jeb mad enough to issue a statement because the Feds sent Cubans back to face prison or death. You know, the guys who turned a pickup into a boat? Dubya returned Cubans back to Cuba for prison or death.

What illegals is your friend livid about and is she sure that they're illegals? Your friend should compare Florida to California. California created their illegal immigration problem.

As far as migrant farm families in Fla., Jeb is pro-active to get those families to read and write English.

You give democrats hope when you rant against Bush and you give undecideds doubts when you rant against him. Is that your intention? I hope not because the WOT isn't over and I don't want a democrat commander in chief. I wouldn't feel safe at all then. I'd be making a safe room election night.

[floriduh voter]

Do you regret starting this thread about re-electing President Bush? I can't believe people bashing Bush hopped on this thread in the first place to grumble. You wanted volunteers to help him not people to harp about their personal gripe with him.

It's a big job to be the leader of the free world and the United States of America. The guy's on vacation in Crawford. Bush bashing freepers, please give him a break for once and email your elected officials and the RNC if you have a concern. Communicate with your leaders instead of whining like democrats!!!

[jpsb]

If Bush continues, and he will, his globalist policies of open borders and sending our jobs over seas he will lose big time.

[jpsb]

I an happy to see, at last, that a number of conservatives are very unhappy with this nation policy of “Free Trade” and “out sourcing" jobs.

First off the trade isn’t free or fair. Our trade policies are killing vital industries, thousands of American workers are losing their jobs, their homes their savings and their families. What’s “free” about that?

How is it remotely fair to force the American work force to compete with the work force of the low wage third world? How is an American family supposed to survive on a third world pay check?

Is it not the duty of the federal government to protect and defend the interests of the American people? How is standing by, and in many case facilitating the elimination of basic industries and the jobs that go with them beneficial to the nation or it’s people?

The present day policy of “Free Trade” is not the policy of our past. The industrial might of the United States was build behind tariff walls. Tariffs funded the federal government and protected American industry. Anti-trust laws were passed to prevent monopolies, encourage competition and innovation. The system worked, labor organized and the American Dream became possible for millions of hard working citizen of the USA.

We have a history and we know from examining that history what trade and tax policies bring the greatest benefit to the nation and it’s people. Our current policy of high taxation with a progressive income tax, importation of goods from cheap labor sources, and out sourcing office jobs to cheap labor countries does not benefit the nation or it people.

The solution is to scrape the progressive income tax and replace it with a combination of a flat across the board tariff and a flat nation sales tax. This change in tax and trade policy might mean that the federal government would be forced to abandon some of the responsibilities that it has taken upon itself. Could be that a federal government might have to tighten it’s belt and forgo dumping 15 billion dollar in Africa, or maybe even some of socialistic programs here a home. I can live with that.

[sarasmom]

"What illegals is your friend livid about and is she sure that they're illegals?"
Yes, she is sure they are illegals.They are in Michigan.And she runs the gauntlet at the gas station, same as I do, and I venture to say you are also experienced with this, by the non-english speaking gang that pours out of the back of a run down construction crew truck.
GWB has consistantly made it clear that he will not deal with illegal immigration from Mexico in the way the laws of the USA currently state.He does not see a "problem" with uncontrolled "migration" from south of the border.He, and most politicians, would much prefer the subject not be brought up, at all, by anyone.
God forbid that any citizen of the USA is wrong by thinking illegal immigration a big issue that the POTUS is hoping nobody will call him on.
When he is wrong, he is wrong.
What purpose does it serve to pretend he is perfect?
Tell me,FV,if GWB went against your views on your personal priorty on an issue, would you happily just shut up and vote for him? Or would you weigh the pros and cons before you supported the man? Is questioning his actions and demanding he explain his position on this subject subversive?
Are we all supposed to pretend to agree with him on every issue?

[floriduh voter]

Your comments should be forwarded to the RNC and to your elected officials. The GOP folks read their mail. They are accountable to the folks back home.

I think there's definitely room for budget cutbacks and even though Bush promised Africa dough for Aids, Clinton was always giving our money away and illegally taking money from foreign agents and inviting China into our defense labs and giving them our defense software. Clinton was sloppy and careless. How soon we all forget the country was run by thugs for 8 long years.

[floriduh voter]

I could have easily added a statement to the effect that GWB isn't perfect because I am not a Bushbot. I am sticking with him no matter what. There are many issues and I don't cut and run. I voted for him in 2000 based upon my concerns about national security. I know Algor would be incapable of dealing with that.

As far as illegal immigrants, I don't live in Michigan so I can't relate to that except that I know there's a large muslim population there. I had no idea there were Mexicans up there too. Maybe the US is making threat assessments and are focusing on sleeper cells, etc, instead of routing out illegal Mexicans at the time being. That's fine with me.

If they are robbers or drug dealers that's a law enforcement or DEA problem. If they are working, did they take somebody else's job away from them? What is your dem friend's main issue about the illegal aliens that is driving them up a wall?

Start a vanity thread against Bush and you'll get figuratively beat up by true Bushbots. LOL