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Years Were Longer 1.3bln Years ago: Chinese Scientists
The Peoples Daily - Science Edition ^ | 7-22-2003 FR Post | Editorial Staff

Posted on 07/22/2003 7:21:52 PM PDT by vannrox

Years Were Longer 1.3bln Years ago: Chinese Scientists

People who complain that there aren't enough hours in the day might have preferred to live 1.3 billion years ago.

At that time, according to the latest research by a group of Chinese scientists, there were 15 hours in one day, 42 days in a month, and 13 to 14 months, or more than 540 days, in a year.

The finding was obtained through a five-year systematic study of stromatolite samples, known as "stone with memory", by several researchers with the Tianjin geology and minerals research institute under the China Geological Survey Bureau.

Stromatolite mainly consists of the fossil of blue algae, which,rich in chlorophyll, was the first procaryote to emerge on the earth. Blue alga also contains a special phycobilin, which includes phycoerythrin and phycocyanin.

While phycoerythrin mainly absorbs green light, phycocyanin is particularly sensitive to orange light and, therefore, they jointly record the traces of daylight and moonlight in each day.

As a result, well preserved blue algae fossils can also contain information about the ancient climate, geology and geography from more than one billion years ago.

The stromatolite samples used during the research this time were collected from a section of Yanshan mountain in Jixian county of Tianjin city in north China, where the most complete and informative stromatolite are widely acknowledged to be preserved.

According to Zhu Shixing, one of the researchers, the stromatolite of their research was formed between 2.5 billion years to 1.3 billion years ago and contains blue alga fossil as thick as 3,336 meters.

Starting from 1998, Zhu and his colleagues began to collect stromatolite samples containing blue algae fossils, which were finally sliced into more than 2,000 ultra-thin pieces.

Under a high-power microscope, the growth trace of blue algae can be clearly seen: in daylight, it grew upright and the growth layer was thick and transparent; while in moonlight, the blue algae grew horizontally, and the growth layer turned thin and gray.The two different traces thus make up a complete daily growth layer.

Further research backed by high technologies and geomagnetism, petrosus, paleoclimatology and paleotemperature knowledge indicatethat the blue algae fossil has three rhythms, namely a daily, monthly and yearly rhythm.

An in-depth study of the microstructure of the stromatolite showed that the daily rhythm is represented by the basic layer, which is made up of a gray layer 0.01 mm to 0.05 mm thick and another transparent layer 0.3 mm to 0.8 mm thick.

Regularly, some 42 basic layers would form a group, which is the monthly rhythm, and some 13 to 14 groups would regularly form a band generally 2 cm to 8 cm thick, which is the yearly rhythm.

According to Zhu Shixing, the research result is particularly significant in that it helps to provide time coordinates for understanding the evolution of the earth and even the entire solarsystem.

The earth was formed about 4.7 billion years ago, and the speedof its rotation is believed to have gradually slowed. However, no scientific evidence proving this had previously been discovered.

Another important aspect it carries is that it has laid a basic foundation for the formation of a global stromatolite timepiece model, a brand-new scientific branch pursued by both Chinese and foreign scientists.



People's Daily Online --- http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ago; archaeology; china; day; explore; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; life; light; million; night; old; past; rotation; span; stone; time; wonder; year
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Hum....interesting.
1 posted on 07/22/2003 7:21:53 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
The day was shorter, but the year was the same. The moon was closer, too.
2 posted on 07/22/2003 7:27:45 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: vannrox
YEC INTREP
4 posted on 07/22/2003 7:56:21 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: RightWhale
If you use their numbers, it comes out to 8760 hrs. in a year now, vs. 8100 hours in a year then. So the year was shorter then.

I think this makes sense as the orbit of earth is slower than the sun's revolution, over 1 billion years, the earth orbit might have moved farther out and made the year longer.

I read that the 2 martian moons are inside geosync (marssync?) orbit so they will eventually crash into mars and both are suspected to be asteroid captures. Our moon is outside geosync orbit and will gradually spin away from earth.
5 posted on 07/22/2003 8:02:43 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: vannrox
If years were longer 1.3 billion years ago wouldn't that mean that 1.3 billion years were longer than 1.3 billions years and wouldn't that mean that years weren't really longer 1.3 billion years ago.

This might be an interesting topic for the libertarians on one of the WOD threads.

6 posted on 07/22/2003 8:04:59 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: vannrox
Sounds like another attempt by the godless commies to denigrate the Bible.
7 posted on 07/22/2003 8:06:06 PM PDT by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
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To: vannrox
self ping for later read.
8 posted on 07/22/2003 8:08:08 PM PDT by dpa5923 (More than a man, less than a god.)
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To: vannrox
... and I would STILL be a day late and a dollar short.
9 posted on 07/22/2003 8:21:29 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Tribune7
If years were longer 1.3 billion years ago wouldn't that mean that 1.3 billion years were longer than 1.3 billions years and wouldn't that mean that years weren't really longer 1.3 billion years ago.

In 2003 dollars?

10 posted on 07/22/2003 8:52:58 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: taxcontrol
... and I would STILL be a day late and a dollar short.

But if you had bought an ounce of gold 1.3 billion years ago, you would still be able to buy a Roman chariot.

11 posted on 07/22/2003 8:57:03 PM PDT by Nick Danger (The views expressed may not actually be views)
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To: blam
Bump to you on a cool-sounding technique.
12 posted on 07/22/2003 8:57:24 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Yup. Thanks for the ping.
13 posted on 07/22/2003 9:11:04 PM PDT by blam
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To: RightWhale
The day was shorter, but the year was the same. The moon was closer, too.

The moon appeared much larger in the sky, and total eclipses would have been more common.

14 posted on 07/22/2003 9:15:17 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: jlogajan
That would be the next project. Fixing the CPI for a year longer than a year.
15 posted on 07/22/2003 10:09:53 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: vannrox
People who complain that there aren't enough hours in the day might have preferred to live 1.3 billion years ago.

Pass. I think the highest form of life 1.3 billion years ago was a paramecium or something like that.

16 posted on 07/22/2003 10:16:43 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Mr.Clark
Talk about rubbish.

This really is an attempt to change how we view the currently accepted time scale advanced by SCIENTISTS, not theologians or the willfully blind.

The Bible has no bearing on either timeline.
17 posted on 07/22/2003 11:28:33 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
A blast from the distant past ping. Tribune7 has a great point up there. Thanks go to VannRox for posting this topic, and to LiteKeeper for reasons that are mundane, but may seem mystifying. See also the FR topic When the Days Were Shorter.
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18 posted on 04/04/2005 10:20:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

ping


19 posted on 04/04/2005 10:34:11 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
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To: vannrox

YEC INTREP - the number of hours in a day is based on the rotation of the Earth. For the days to be shorter, the Earth would have to rotate faster...and that would have prevented life from existing. Poppy-cock


20 posted on 04/04/2005 10:43:41 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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