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Living History | 6.30.03 | Mia T

Posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:14 PM PDT by Mia T

(Tell It Early, . . . Tell It Yourself )


by Mia T, 6.30.03


Diane [Blair] and I regularly met for lunch in the Student Union. We always chose a table by the big windows that looked out toward the Ozark Hills and share [sic] stories and gossip. She and I also spent long hours with Ann at the Henrys' backyard pool. They loved hearing about the cases I handled at the Legal Aid clinic, and I often sought their opinions about some of the attitudes I encountered. One day, the Washington County prosecuting attorney, Mahlon Gibson, called to tell me an indigent prisoner accused of raping a twelve-year-old girl wanted a woman lawyer. Gibson had recommended that the criminal court judge, Maupin Cummings, appoint me. I told Mahlon I really didn't feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn't very well refuse the judge's request. When I visited the alleged rapist in the county jail, I learned that he was an uneducated "chicken catcher." His job was to collect chickens from the large warehouse farms for one of the local processing plants. He denied the charges against him and insisted that the girl, a distant relative, had made up her story. I conducted a thorough investigation and obtained expert testimony from an eminent scientist from New York, who cast doubt on the evidentiary value of the blood and semen the prosecutor claimed proved the defendant's guilt in the rape. Because of that testimony, I negotiated with the prosecutor for the defendant to plead guilty to sexual abuse. When I appeared with my client before Judge Cummings to present the plea, he asked me to leave the courtroom while he conducted the necessary examination to determine the factual basis for the plea. I said, "Judge, I can't leave. I'm his lawyer."

"Well," said the judge, "I can't talk about these things in front of a lady."

"Judge," I reassured him, "don't think of me as anything but a lawyer."

The judge walked the defendant through his plea and then sentenced him. It was shortly after this experience that Ann Henry and I discussed setting up Arkansas's first rape hot line.

hillary clinton, Living History, p. 72-73
published by the clintons' personal agitprop-and-money-laundering machine,
Simon & Schuster
(special thanks to jla for wading through the vacuity, pitiful self-adoration and muck to get this cite)

The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know. She said "You won't believe what this &^%$#@#$%^ did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Shaun Hannity, WABC, 10/16/00

Cillary clinton is following Lanny Davis' counsel. She's getting all the (non-actionable) stuff out early and, if you discount the literary demimonde of ghost writers, hacks, and publicists, she's getting it out herself.

It's worth noting that a "congenital liar" like missus clinton, (Bill Safire's right-on early diagnosis), will experience absolutely no cognitive dissonance following Lanny Davis' slick advice: "Truth to Tell" does not mean "Tell theTruth."

Blue Gap Dress Redux

Consistent with Davis' advice, clinton tells us that she bought an expert witness to help her get the rapist off; he was "an eminent" (but strangely never identified) "scientist from New York," whose charge it was to muddle the puddle of semen and blood to such an extent that the rapist, who "didn't do it" could eventually plead to the lesser crime of sexual abuse.

It is also worth noting that the missus is sticking closely to the clinton playbook: No, the clintons are not the co-rapists that they manifestly are; rather, they are a "minister to 100s of troubled young girls" and a contemplator of "setting up Arkansas's first rape hot line." NB: no mention of its actual implementation.

In short, the clintons didn't rape all those women. The clintons rescued them.




Juanita Broaddrick wipes a tear from her eye during her January 1999 interview on "Dateline NBC," in which she discusses her claim of a 1978 sexual assault by Bill Clinton. -- AP


SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000

As I watched Rick Lazio's interview on Fox News this morning, I felt compelled to write this open letter to you, Mrs. Clinton. Brit Hume asked Mr. Lazio's views regarding you as a person and how he perceived you as a candidate. Rick Lazio did not answer the question, but I know that I can. You know it, too.
I have no doubt that you are the same conniving, self-serving person you were twenty-two years ago when I had the misfortune to meet you. When I see you on television, campaigning for the New York senate race, I can see the same hypocrisy in your face that you displayed to me one evening in 1978. You have not changed.

I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were yesterday and maybe there would still be time to do something about what your husband, Bill Clinton, did to me. There was a political rally for Mr. Clinton's bid for governor of Arkansas. I had obligated myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by your husband in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I was still in a state of shock and denial. You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question. Yes, I can answer Brit Hume's question. You are the same Hillary that you were twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving. You cannot tolerate the thought that you will soon be without the power you have wielded for the last eight years. Your effort to stay in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I only hope the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary Clinton is not an honorable or an honest person.

I will end by asking if you believe the statements I made on NBC Dateline when Lisa Myers asked if I had been assaulted and raped by your husband? Or perhaps, you are like Vice-President Gore and did not see the interview.

     Juanita Broaddrick





"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Friday's conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness. . .

Richard Poe, The Hillary Conspiracy


"Boss, we have a rapist in the White House."


Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president. There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know. She said "You won't believe what this &^%$#@#$%^ did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Shaun Hannity, WABC, 10/16/00

You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.



"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

Shays Shocker: Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice

It's no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is: criminal."

-- Hillary Rodham Clinton, addressing the UN, 3.4.99  

As we've learned from the Juanita Broaddrick story (non-story, I should say) and countless others, the Clintons will do their best Muhammad Ali impression and play rope-a-dope one more time. Like they said - they've got to "get back to the business of the American people." You know - degrading the military, censoring the Internet, and bombing other countries. There's no time to deal with rape allegations or small details like a contempt charge.

---No Person is Above the Law

The clinton Rapes: Credit where credit is due...

Even hillary hagiographer, Gail Sheehy, concedes that hillary clinton deserves no less than half of the credit for the clinton rapes:

She made the money, she laid out the political strategy. She fought his political enemies for him. She gave him a beautiful child. She was an excellent mother. What more could you want in a political wife? So these other little escapades on the side were just, you know, white noise.

Historically, hillary clinton has always been a co-equal partner in clintoncrime.

Specifically, hillary clinton raped, too. For two decades, for power, for all intents and purposes, hillary clinton both provided and pinned her husband's prey as he raped them, again and again.

In a novel twist of logic and reality during the First Rapist's impeachment trial, the co-rapist portrayed the endless string of clinton rapes as significant clinton public policy, euphemistically dubbing chronic clinton predation "ministering to troubled young girls."

Mia T, First Rapist's Rose-Garden Escape: The Full Story

Arkansas nursing home operator Juanita Broaddrick told impeachment investigators she was raped not once but twice by Bill Clinton during a brutal attack in a Little Rock hotel room 22 years ago, Connecticut Congressman Christopher Shays revealed Wednesday...


Shays Reveals Details of Clinton's 'Horrific' Broaddrick Rape




by Mia T



It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope.
We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth,
and listen to the song of that siren
till she transforms us into beasts.
Is this the part of wise men,
engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
Are we disposed to be the number of those
who, having eyes, see not,
and having ears, hear not,
the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,
I am willing to know the whole truth;
to know the worst, and to provide for it.
Patrick Henry

In a dark time, the eye begins to see.
Theodore Roethke





My original piece on clinton,
The Placebo President: How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist,"
written years ago.
9/11 was the sorry, inexorable endpoint....



The Real Danger of a Fake President:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President

by Mia T, 1.06.02  



 In May, 1996, American diplomats were informed in a Sudanese government fax that Bin Laden was about to be expelled -- giving Washington another chance to seize him. The decision not to do so went to the very top of the White House, according to former administration sources.

They say that the clear focus of American policy was to discourage the state sponsorship of terrorism. So persuading Khartoum to expel Bin Laden was in itself counted as a clear victory. The administration was "delighted"

Bin Laden took off from Khartoum on May 18 in a chartered C-130 plane with 150 of his followers, including his wives. He was bound for Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. On the way the plane refuelled in the Gulf state of Qatar, which has friendly relations with Washington, but he was allowed to proceed unhindered.

Barely a month later, on June 25, a 5,000lb truck bomb ripped apart the front of Khobar Towers, a US military housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. The explosion killed 19 American servicemen. Bin Laden was immediately suspected...

US missed three chances to seize Bin Laden

Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000


"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."

Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women

the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;

. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'


In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?

Richard Gere stunned fellow liberals Monday by suggesting that President Bush is doing a better job of fighting AIDS than President Bill Clinton did.

Introduced by Sharon Stone at a fund-raiser at Cipriani 42nd Street for the American Foundation for AIDS Research, the "Chicago" star hailed Bush for his State of the Union proposal to contribute $15 billion toward the AIDS battle in Africa and the Caribbean. Gere then addressed the track record of Bush's predecessor in the White House.

"I'm sorry, Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, but your husband did nothing about AIDS for eight years," Gere said.

GERE TAKES ON BILL, NY Daily News | 2/5/03




The Placebo President:

How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist


placebo effect n.

A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment
that arises from the patient's expectations concerning the treatment
rather than from the treatment itself.


Every woman adores a Fascist,
The boot in the face, the brute
Brute heart of a brute like you.

----Sylvia Plath


The placebo effect immediately came to mind

as I listened to Shelby Steele,

a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,

debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.

To wit:

A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;

clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.


The error in these statements arises, says Steele,

from the belief that

virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility

so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by

one's political positions on issues rather than on

whether or not in one's personal life there is a

consistency and a responsibility.


Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,

rather than being the amazing advantage

the clintons would have us believe,

in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.


If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous

then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,

that is to say they just represent virtuousness.

They don't necessarily do virtuous things.


If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,

clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,

systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .


I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.

I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,

producing a real, physiological and social effects.


The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.

Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.

The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:

act now, think later


bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.

Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."

And please he does

doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.

To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.

Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.

Or to confute his genuine vice.


clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)

at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...

or at the hint of high treason...


clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.

Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer

so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.


The efficaciousness of today's medicines

does not diminish the power of the placebo.

A recent review of placebo-controlled studies

found that placebos and genuine treatments

are often equally effective.

If you expect to get better, you will.


Which brings me back to the original question:

Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?


Clearly he cannot.

These two propositions are mutually exclusive.

clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.

He has violated his covenant with the American people.


Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,

he can no longer function even as a quack;

the placebo effect is gone.

And so the Placebo President must now go, too.





September 11 changed a lot of things for me, Bill [O'Reilly]. I will say this, before September 11, I was definitely mildly myopic in terms of my political agenda. If you were Democrat you were probably right, and if you were a Republican you were probably wrong. Everything changed for me that day...

My entire worldview changed. If you would have told me September 9 that I would have been at the world series game filming George Bush throwing out the first pitch with my 6-year-old son crying, I never would have believed you, but I was. Because my whole worldview changed.






Reciprocal Intern-Exploitation-Purgation Attempt at JFK Library
"I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine...."


by Mia T, 5.18.03


Biography lends to death a new terror.

Oscar Wilde



Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of Clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson posthumously misappropriated...




Yesterday, Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Today, the clintons are arrogating his soul. Hardly surprising. In 1999, the clintons were not at all shy about seizing his still-warm senate seat.

One has merely to recall the Thomas Jefferson double-helix hoax to understand that posthumous misappropriation is, for the obvious reason, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation….

Standard-Issue clintonism

If misappropriation of Jefferson's alleles hinged on a broken line of descent, misappropriation of Moynihan's endorsement depends on a broken line of dissent. Like Sally Hemmings' progeny, Moynihan's later acquiescence is of dubious lineage

Mia T, Moynihan Myths




In fact, Clinton was not impeached for his dalliance with Lewinsky, but because he perjured himself about the relationship in testimony before a federal judge and a grand jury in an attempt to obstruct justice in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case.

Clinton to Address JFK Library in Wake of Intern Revelations

...not to mention clinton's rape of Broaddrick and other predations.

In the end, it was the incontrovertilble Ford-Building evidence of those "horrific, vicious" crimes (to quote Christopher Shays) that made the difference in the impeachment vote (although, oddly, not in that of Shays, whose reasoning apparently went something like this:

clinton is a rapist
Therefore clinton is a fit president.)

And in the end, it was the Senate's failure to consider that incontrovertilble evidence -- it was the Senate's utter failure to act -- that kept a pair of self-serving rapists in power , which, in turn, allowed 9/11 to proceed on course....


To be fair, it was not the Lieberman speech but rather a New York Times apologia that institutionalized this shameless scheme to protect a thoroughly corrupt and repugnant--and--as everyone except The New York Times now acknowledges-- dangerous -- Democrat regime.

The Lieberman Paradigm made its debut in The Times' utterly loony 1996 endorsement of clinton. The Times actually argued -- NOTE: this is NOT satire on my part (nor is it satire, as far as I can discern, on the part of The Times) -- that although bill clinton is a "corrupt," "dysfunctional personality [with} delusions" -- The Times' own words -- we need not -- we must not -- remove bill clinton; we need only remove.the character lobe of bill clinton's brain.


Not an aberration, the Shays Syndrome was quickly adopted by the entire Senate as its impeachment show trial deus ex machina of choice.

Shays, you may recall, examined the evidence in the Ford Building, concluded that clinton did, indeed, rape Broaddrick -- "VICIOUSLY!" AND "TWICE!" he declared at the time-- and was planning to vote to impeach; he changed his mind, however, after a tete a tete with the rapist.

Any cognitive dissonance Shays may have experienced rendering that verdict was no doubt assuaged by the political plum clinton had given Mrs. (Betsi) Shays...

Each of the 50 senators, on the other hand, cured the cognitive dissonance problem pre-emptively by making certain not to examine the damning Ford Building evidence in the first place.

the logic of pathologic self-interest

I am not aware of any JFK rapes...

On the other hand, it is perfectly understandable that his brother, the one who murdered to cover up a dalliance, would imagine that the imprimatur of a rapist and exploiter of White House interns would somehow mitigate -- dilute, if you will pardon the pun -- JFK's transgression... and retroactively, no less.

I cannot imagine that Teddy is trying to spin the converse. I mean, would he really sacrifice his dead brother on the altar of clinton?



It won't s-p-i-n 





All the fuss over the spread-eagle pose and the tie pointing to nothing much.

I think the great untold story of that photo is the scary fisheye distortion of the rapist's hands (which only underscores the smallness of the rest of him)...

It is as though the photographer was saying, "You small -----. I believe Juanita."







Aside: Isn't it interesting how the clintons, how this "brilliant man" and this "smart" woman (as Estrich is wont to describe them these days) -- "the smartest woman in the world" in the clinton version always careful not to preclude the possibility of smarter men) -- isn't it interesting how these two veritable geniuses never fail to fall for the artiste's inside joke? 



bushwhacked by tailhook: the real reason

Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent


The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime


Why bill "it was the TERRORISM, stupid" clinton would have been an utter failure even if he weren't a corrupt, cowardly, vacuous, self-serving, balkanizing, opportunistic RapistThug
And why the missus deserves no less than half the credit

Poison Pen Proves Autotoxic:
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Yet Again

The Clinton Wars: Stockholm Syndrome Revs Spinning Sid

Personal Agitprop-and-Money-Laundering Machine, Cozy-clintonoid-Interviews-of-the-Colmes-Kind-Scheme
REAL "Living History"

 missus clinton's REAL virtual office update

Transcript of Juanita Broaddrick's Interview on Dateline NBC


24 Feb 1999




       LAST WEEK, as NBC News continued its investigation, Jane Doe Number 5 went public with her extraordinary allegation --


that she was sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton 21 years ago. To some this is an old and unprovable accusation that should never have been circulated to begin with. To others it's a story that must be told. Is she to be believed? Or is Jane Doe Number 5 the latest weapon in a relentless political war against Bill Clinton?
       Juanita Broaddrick:
"It's important to me to tell what happened. I don't know how people are going to take this. I don't know what they're going to think after all these years and months why I've come forward."
       Jane Doe Number 5 is 56-year-old Juanita Broaddrick, a successful businesswoman who has been the subject of intense political and media speculation. Rumors about Broaddrick's story have been floating around Arkansas and Washington for years, known to both Clinton haters and supporters.
       Broaddrick was pulled into the Paula Jones case, she met with investigators for the House Judiciary Committee and was interviewed by Ken Starr's investigators. And though what she told Starr remains sealed it was seen by 40 members of Congress before the impeachment vote in the House. Later House Republican Whip Tom Delay publicly urged senators to find out what Jane Doe Number 5 had to say before deciding the fate of the president.
       As the whispers about her grew, Broaddrick found herself hounded by the media --


and she says she was the subject of gossip and half truths on the Internet and in the tabloids.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "All these stories are floating around. Different stories of what really happened, of what people think happened and I was tired of everybody putting their own spin on it."
       The Broaddrick story became public last week, and since then her story has appeared in print, on radio and TV.        But much of what you may have read or heard is incomplete. While NBC News was investigating this story and seeking comment from the White House, our work became the subject of much speculation. Tonight, you'll see what we were able to learn and you'll hear from Juanita Broaddrick herself --


a woman who remained silent for two decades and who admits she has lied under oath about this story in the past but now says she wants to tell the truth.
       Juanita Broaddrick's story begins in 1978 --


she was a registered nurse who had started her own nursing home in Van Buren, Arkansas.
       Bill Clinton was the state attorney general who was running for governor:
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I thought he was just something that was gonna be really good for Arkansas. Thought he was a very charismatic man, that had bright ideas for our state… I just really liked him."
       Broaddrick, whose married name at the time was Juanita Hickey, says she was so impressed with Clinton she volunteered to hand out bumper stickers and signs --


her first and only political campaign. Broaddrick says she met Clinton for the first time when he made a campaign stop at her nursing home in the spring of 1978.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "While he was there visiting, he said 'If you're ever in the, ah you know, Little Rock area, please drop by our campaign office,' and he said 'be sure to call me when you come in and call down to the campaign office.'"
       Broaddrick says not long after that conversation she did go to Little Rock for a nursing home meeting held at the Camelot Hotel --


now the Doubletree. She says she checked into the hotel and the next morning called Clinton campaign headquarters. She says she was told Clinton was at his apartment and to call him there.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I did call and ask him if he was gonna be at the headquarters that day and he said no he didn't plan to be there. He says, Clinton said, 'Why don't I just meet you for coffee in the Camelot coffee shop?'"
       But Broaddrick says Clinton called later --


she thinks it was around 9 in the morning --


and asked if they could meet in her hotel room because there were reporters in the coffee shop.

       Lisa Myers: "Did you think his interest in you at the time was personal or professional?"
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I thought it was professional, completely."
       Myers: "So you thought this was going to be a business meeting?"
       Broaddrick: "Yes I did, I really did."
       Myers: "Did you have qualms at all about him coming to the room?"
       Broaddrick: "I was a little bit uneasy. But, I felt, ah, a real friendship toward this man and I didn't really feel any, um any danger in him coming to my room. I sort of ushered us over to the coffee --


I had coffee sitting on a little table over there by the window and it was a real pretty window view that looked down at the river. And he came around me and sort of put his arm over my shoulder to point to this little building and he said he was real interested if he became governor to restore that little building and then all of a sudden, he turned me around and started kissing me. And that was a real shock."
       Myers: "What did you do?"
       Broaddrick: "I first pushed him away and just told him 'No, please don't do that," and I forget, it's been 21 years, Lisa, and I forget exactly what he was saying. It seems like he was making statements that would relate to 'Did you not know why I was coming up here?' and I told him at the time, I said, 'I'm married, and I have other things going on in my life, and this is something that I'm not interested in.'"
       Myers: "Had you, that morning, or any other time, given him any reason to believe you might be receptive?"
       Broaddrick: "No. None. None whatsoever."
       Myers: "Then what happens?"
       Broaddrick: "Then he tries to kiss me again. And the second time he tries to kiss me he starts biting my lip (she cries). Just a minute... He starts to, um, bite on my top lip and I tried to pull away from him. (crying) And then he forces me down on the bed. And I just was very frightened, and I tried to get away from him and I told him 'No,' that I didn't want this to happen (crying) but he wouldn't listen to me."
       Myers: "Did you resist, did you tell him to stop?"
       Broaddrick: "Yes, I told him 'Please don't.' He was such a different person at that moment, he was just a vicious awful person."
       Myers: "You said there was a point at which you stopped resisting?"
       Broaddrick: "Yeah."
       Myers: "Why?"
       Broaddrick: "It was a real panicky, panicky situation. I was even to the point where I was getting very noisy, you know, yelling to 'Please stop.' And that's when he pressed down on my right shoulder and he would bite my lip."
       Broaddrick also says the waist of her skirt and her pantyhose were torn.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "When everything was over with, he got up and straightened himself, and I was crying at the moment and he walks to the door, and calmly puts on his sunglasses. And before he goes out the door he says 'You better get some ice on that.' And he turned and went out the door."
       Myers: "On your lip?"
       Broaddrick: "Yeah."
       Broaddrick estimates Clinton was in her room less than 30 minutes.
       Myers: "Is there any way at all that Bill Clinton could have thought that this was consensual?"
       Broaddrick: "No. Not with what I told him, and with how I tried to push him away. It was not consensual."
       Myers: "You're saying that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted you, that he raped you."
       Broaddrick: "Yes."
       Myers: "And there is no doubt in your mind that that's what happened?"
       Broaddrick: "No doubt whatsoever."
       While the president and his lawyer declined to be interviewed on camera, through his lawyer the president did issue a statement saying any allegation he assaulted Broaddrick is "absolutely false" and when asked about it Wednesday the president said he had nothing to add to that statement.
       It's important to note --


and Broaddrick concedes --


that aside from her, there are no witnesses and as far as we know, no one saw Clinton enter or leave Broaddrick's room, or even the hotel. She took no photos, kept no evidence and the hotel has no records to confirm that she stayed there. However, Broaddrick does have a friend who backs up her story.
       Norma Kelsey did not want to be interviewed on camera. However she told us she did accompany Broaddrick on that business trip to Little Rock --


they even shared a hotel room. Norma says when she left that morning Broaddrick told her she was planning to see Clinton. But Norma says when she called around lunchtime, Broaddrick was upset and crying so she returned to the room.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "Well, I was very emotional within an hour or so after it happened and then by the time Norma got back my whole top lip was turned out, was very swollen and very ugly looking."
       Norma also says that Broaddrick's lip and mouth were badly swollen, that her pantyhose had been ripped off and she says Broaddrick told her she had been sexually assaulted by Clinton.
       Myers: "Did you feel any internal injuries?"
       Broaddrick: "Of course. I felt, I felt, just the whole thing you can imagine of being violated. I felt, of course there was pain."
       Myers: "Did you consider going to a doctor?"
       Broaddrick: "No. Not at all. I just wanted to get home. I just, ah, I wanted it to all go away. I wanted to just walk outta there and forget that it had never happened, because I felt very responsible that I had allowed him to come to my room."
       Broaddrick says she decided to leave the hotel immediately without going to the nursing home meeting. She says after Norma helped ice her lip, the two of them left Little Rock and drove more than two hours back to Van Buren.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "We were still in shock, Lisa, over what had happened… It was like this is a horrible thing and I'm gonna wake up in a minute and this is not going to be true."
       Norma told us on the drive back, Broaddrick was very, very upset and in shock and says Broaddrick blamed herself for letting Clinton in her room. And Broaddrick says she never considered going to the police --


especially since Clinton was the Arkansas attorney general at the time.
       Myers: "The question everyone is going to ask is 'Juanita, why didn't you report this 21 years ago?'"
       Broaddrick: "I didn't think anyone would believe me in the world."
       If Juanita Broaddrick ever wanted to press charges against Bill Clinton, it's too late. The statute of limitations in Arkansas is six years.
       If something did happen in that hotel room, who else knew about it? NBC News spent four weeks trying to confirm as many details as possible.
       Lisa Myers: "Did you tell your husband when you got home?"
       Juanita Broaddrick: "No, my husband never knew."
       Juanita Broaddrick says that at the time of the alleged sexual assault her marriage was on the rocks. She says she never told her husband, Gary Hickey, about the alleged incident and told him the swollen lip was the result of an accident. Hickey tells NBC News he doesn't recall either the injury or her explanation. At the time, she was having an affair with the man who would become her second husband --


David Broaddrick --


to whom she's been married 18 years. She says she saw David and told him what happened soon after she returned home.
       Myers: "Did she have any visible injuries?"
       David Broaddrick: "Yes. She, uh, her top lip was black."
       Myers: "As best you can remember, what did she tell you?"
       David Broaddrick: "Uh, like I said, I don't remember the words but that she had been raped by Bill Clinton."
       Myers: "Other than her lip, did she have any injuries?"
       David Broaddrick: "Just mentally she was in bad shape."
       Juanita Broaddrick also says her affair with David made her even more reluctant to report the incident:
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I don't think I would have been real honorable back then in the 70s to have been married and having this affair. I just didn't think anyone would have believed me."
       So who else did Broaddrick talk to?
       Three of her friends tell NBC News she told them about the alleged incident at the time: Susan Lewis...
       Susan Lewis: "It was very traumatic for her."
       Louise Ma...
       Myers: "Did you urge her to report it?"
       Louise Ma: "No."
       Myers: "Why not?"
       Louise Ma: "Because women were made victims at the time. And you know what the courts were like in that time period. It was always the woman's fault."
       And Jean Darden, the sister of Norma Kelsey, the woman who says she saw Juanita at the hotel. Both admit they have a serious reason not to like Bill Clinton --


in 1981 as governor, Clinton commuted the life sentence of their father's killer, making him eligible for parole.
       The stories her friends tell from 20 years ago are consistent --


and Broaddrick herself says she recalls many details. For instance, the outfit she was wearing, the hotel room furnishings, and the time of year --


spring. However, there is one important thing she does not remember --


when the alleged incident happened: not the date, not even the month.
       Lisa Myers: "Some people would say, how can you not remember the specific date of an event as traumatic as this?"
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I really don't have an answer for that except to say I remember the approximate time of year. I probably should remember the date, although it's something I wanted to forget."
       So NBC News tried to figure out the date of the alleged assault. Broaddrick gave us access to all the business and personal records she says she could find. We also checked public records, nursing home records and convention schedules.
       And indeed there was a nursing home meeting at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock on April 25, 1978. Further, state records show Broaddrick got credit for a nursing home seminar that was held that day, April 25.
       So was Bill Clinton even in Little Rock on April 25, 1978? Despite our repeated requests, the White House would not answer that question and declined to release any information about his schedule.
       So we checked 45 Arkansas newspapers and talked to a dozen former Clinton staffers. We found no evidence that Clinton had any public appearances on the morning in question. Articles in Arkansas newspapers suggest he was in Little Rock that day.
       And remember the little building Broaddrick says Clinton pointed to just before the alleged assault in the hotel room? We checked that too, and in fact the Pulaski County jail was visible from rooms facing the river. It has since been demolished.
       But what happened after the alleged assault? It turns out, just three weeks later Broaddrick actually attended a Clinton fundraiser with her first husband.
       Myers: "Some people would wonder why you would go to a fundraiser for someone who you say sexually assaulted you. Couldn't you have said you were sick or gotten out of it?"
       Broaddrick: "I think I was still in denial that time exactly what had happened to me. I still felt very guilty at that time that it was my fault. By letting him come to the room I had given him the wrong idea and just shut up and accept your punishment and don't ever do it again."
       Broaddrick also told us Clinton called her a half dozen times at the nursing home. She says he got through once and asked her when she was coming back to Little Rock. Her response, she says, "I'm not."
       Then in 1979, a year after the alleged assault, Broaddrick was named by Clinton to a non-paying position on a state advisory board.
       Myers: "Did you have reservations about accepting any appointment by Governor Clinton?"
       Broaddrick: "Yes, but I had more or less said to the association that I would do this before I knew it was a governor appointing job. When I agreed to do it I had no idea it was an appointment."
       Over the years, Broaddrick said she had business dealings with the governor's office but not Clinton personally. In 1984, she received a letter signed by Clinton after her nursing home was named one of the state's best facilities. At the bottom, there is a handwritten note that says, "I admire you very much." A routine political thank you? She interprets it as a thank you for her silence.
       In 1990, Clinton honored one of the patients at the nursing home, but Broaddrick says she wasn't there, and didn't learn of the visit until after the fact.
       Broaddrick says she had no face-to-face contact with Clinton until 1991, when she attended a meeting in Little Rock with two friends. They all say it was a nursing home meeting --


but none can remember the date, nor do they have any records --


so we can't confirm it.
       Broaddrick does remember that she was suddenly called out of the meeting, and, she says, to her surprise, there was Bill Clinton in the hallway. One friend says she saw them talking:
       Broaddrick: "And he immediately began this profuse apology, saying, 'Juanita, I'm so sorry for what I did. I'm not the man that I used to be, can you ever forgive me? What can I do to make this up to you?' And I'm standing there in absolute shock. And I told him to go to hell, and I walked off."
       But Broaddrick remained silent when she learned soon after that Clinton was making a bid for the Oval Office.
       Myers: "Here the man is running for president, doesn't the country have a right to know this?"
       Broaddrick: "Yes, and that's what I got to thinking about --


David and I talked about it. We talked about it, and I cried about it. It brought up a lot of hurt, and a lot of things that I'd buried years ago. And then we just decided it wouldn't be in our best interest to do it. So we decided not to."
       In fact, Clinton's political opponents say she rebuffed their efforts to get her to come forward before the 1992 election. After she turned them down, one of the men suggested she had been paid off.
       Myers: "Did you receive any payoff to stay silent?"
       Broaddrick: "Oh goodness, no. I mean how could anyone be bribed or paid-off for, for something that, to not say anything about something that horrible?"
       Myers: "Did Bill Clinton or anyone near him ever threaten you, try to intimidate you, do anything to keep you silent?"
       Broaddrick: "No."
       Myers: "This has been strictly your choice."
       Broaddrick: "Yes."
       Broaddrick says she was determined to keep the incident quiet.
       But in 1997, her hand was forced when she was subpoenaed by Paula Jones' lawyers.
       She filed an affidavit in that case --


under oath as Jane Doe 5 --


denying any "unwelcome sexual advances" by Clinton. She said "These allegations are untrue," and "there is no truth to the rumors."
       Broaddrick: "I didn't want to be forced to testify about one of the most horrific events in my life. I didn't want to go through it again."
       She later told the same story, denying the assault, in a sworn deposition in the Jones case.
       Myers: "Last March another woman comes forward, Kathleen Willey, accuses the president of unwanted sexual advances --


why didn't you come forward?"
       Broaddrick: "Well Lisa, I would get up in the morning and I would think: it's the thing to do. Then by nighttime I would think that could bring no good whatsoever to my life. And I'm sorry for these women. I'm sorry for what they went through, but I just wasn't brave enough to do it. There's nothing else to say."
       But she changed her mind and changed her story, when Independent Counsel Ken Starr's office approached her last April --


investigating wrong-doing in the Jones case.
       Broaddrick says she feared lying to a federal grand jury, and once Starr granted her immunity from prosecution for perjury --


she agreed to come forward with details of her allegations against Clinton.
       But Starr did not pursue the allegations further because he was investigating obstruction of justice charges against the president. Broaddrick never alleged any obstruction --


said the president never urged her to lie --


so Starr didn't pursue the allegations any further.
       Finally, after months of contact with us, Broadderick decided to speak to NBC News, on Jan. 20, in the middle of the Senate impeachment trial.
       Myers: "Then why now Juanita?"
       Broaddrick: (Very emotional) "I just couldn't hold it in any longer. I didn't want [my] granddaughters and nieces, when they're 21 years old to turn to me and say, 'Why didn't you tell what this man did to you?'"
       We repeatedly asked the White House what it knew about Juanita Broaddrick --


about her character or possible motivation. We got no response.
       We checked with local and federal law enforcement officials, who told us she's a solid citizen with no criminal record and that they take her allegations very seriously.
       Broaddrick knows that some people have suggested her injuries 21 years ago were inflicted not by Clinton, but by her first husband, Gary Hickey.
       Divorce papers obtained by NBC News show that one year after the alleged assault by Clinton, Juanita and Hickey had an altercation. She says Hickey struck her in the mouth. He told NBC News it was an accident. Broaddrick says that is the only time her husband hit her, and there are no records of any earlier incident.
       Could Broaddrick have a financial motive --


is she hoping to cash in? She says she and her husband are financially comfortable, have turned down any offer to tell her story for money, and have no plans for anything else.
       Myers: "No book deal?"
       Broaddrick: "No book deal."
       Myers: "No lawsuit?
       Broaddrick: "Absolutely not. I don't want to sue Bill Clinton and I do not want to write a book."
       Finally, did Broaddrick have any other motivation for going public now with her allegations? Were politics behind the decision? Broaddrick's personal attorney is a Republican state senator in Arkansas, but he says he did not know she decided to go public until she talked to NBC. Broaddrick says she is not registered with any political party --


and the Broadrricks say they have donated money to both Republican and Democratic candidates.
       Myers: "What is the purpose? Do you want to destroy the president?"
       Broaddrick: "No, I don't want to do anything. I do not have an agenda. I want to put all these rumors to rest. I buried this a long time ago, Lisa, and the only thing I'm trying to do now is clear up all these stories."
       But after all this time, how does Juanita Broaddrick feel about Bill Clinton?
       Broaddrick: "I couldn't say it on the air. My hatred for him is overwhelming."
       Overwhelming enough to invent a story, to distort a memory, all to destroy a presidency? Absolutely not, she says.
       Myers: "Twenty years after it happened, having never reported it to authorities, after signing an affidavit denying anything ever happened, now you come forward. You understand how skeptical people may be?"
       Broaddrick: "Certainly I can. But I was also afraid what would happen to me if I came forward. I was afraid that I would be destroyed like so many of the other women have been."

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1 posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:15 PM PDT by Mia T
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To: jla
thx ping
2 posted on 06/30/2003 8:30:20 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: OldFriend
Thx for the heads up ping
3 posted on 06/30/2003 8:31:36 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Setting aside ones' opinion of Hillary Clinton (and mine is as low of her as everyone else here) people need to get over the idea (which has inspired some REALLY long threads on FR) that being a criminal defense attorney in the structure of the American legal system is inherently evil or immoral. There seems to be a fairly large proportion of people that just don't get it.

Without a really extensive investigation and article on the specific case in question it's not clear what the facts are or whether a rape really occured, hence whether the person Hillary defended was a "rapist." Not every allegation of rape is true. (And I speak as someone who has been on a jury in a sexual molestation case and was basically the sole person that persuaded the rest of the jury to convict the defendant.)
4 posted on 06/30/2003 8:33:53 PM PDT by John H K
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To: Mia T
There are a lot of people over in rural Arkansas that will tell you there is no such thing as rape. Ole Bill has probably heard it numerous times.
5 posted on 06/30/2003 8:35:26 PM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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To: Mia T
When I visited the alleged rapist in the county jail, I learned that he was an uneducated "chicken catcher." His job was to collect chickens from the large warehouse farms for one of the local processing plants.

Let me guess...

The name of the plant was "Tyson"?

It would be interesting to find out.

6 posted on 06/30/2003 8:43:31 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Mia T
As powerful as ever, thanks for your clever portrayal of truth!
7 posted on 06/30/2003 8:47:59 PM PDT by Wolverine
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To: John H K
The pesky fact of the defendant's semen and blood on the twelve-year-old girl renders it statutory rape, by definition.

That said, the issue isn't THAT rapist. The issue isn't LAWYERS. The issue is the RAPIST CLINTONS.

The evidence in the Ford Bldg was sufficient to change enough votes in the House to impeach the basta*d. And SHE is just as guilty as he, perhaps even more so.

8 posted on 06/30/2003 8:56:37 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Hi. What happened to the Doug from Upland links?
9 posted on 06/30/2003 9:02:12 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; doug from upland
Was just about to ping doug ;)
10 posted on 06/30/2003 9:11:26 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Out of the closets!
Into the streets!

Gennifer Flowers, Passion & Betrayal, Emery Dalton, 1995, page 41:

From my copy:

The time Bill and I had together was too precious to waste talking about his wife, but when I heard some rumors floating around Little Rock, I had to speak up. He was with me at home one evening, and I cautiously told him, "There's something you need to know. I've been hearing tales around town that Hillary is having a thing with another woman." I watched his face to see his reaction, and couldn't believe it when he burst out laughing. I was stunned! I asked him what was so funny. "Honey," he said, "she's probably eaten more p---y than I have."

11 posted on 06/30/2003 9:11:48 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; Freedom'sWorthIt; IVote2; ...

12 posted on 06/30/2003 9:23:10 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: cherry_bomb88; FBD; iceskater; JustPiper; Mudboy Slim; sultan88
...wading thru vacuous Clinton muck ping
13 posted on 06/30/2003 9:25:00 PM PDT by jla
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To: cyncooper
name of the plant was "Tyson"?

You mean the same Tyson Foods who donated all that cash to Clinton's campaigns?
Why I just betcha that had nothing to do with Hillary opting for "local processing plants" instead of the proper name of the place.

14 posted on 06/30/2003 9:29:50 PM PDT by jla
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To: John H K
Your comments would be valid if we weren't speaking of the reprobate Clinton's.
reread the excerpt from the book and tell me how many of H's thoughts 'n recollections appear a tad skewed, as well as deceptive.

H using the term "woman lawyer" just bugs the heck out of me for some reason.

15 posted on 06/30/2003 9:37:48 PM PDT by jla
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To: Mia T
"He tried to rape some b*tch"

Of course. It was all HER fault.
16 posted on 06/30/2003 9:39:04 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: jla
See my response.

p.s. I should have included the "statutory rape, by definition" argument in my original analysis.

17 posted on 06/30/2003 9:46:30 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: jla
I'm just guessing, mind you. But yes, the Tyson/Clinton connection was quite a tight one, indeed.

And in fairness, it could very well be some other chicken plant in Arkansas.
18 posted on 06/30/2003 10:00:17 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
And in fairness, it could very well be some other chicken plant in Arkansas.

Could be.
But I can't help to wonder why the co.'s name wasn't used, as is the case with the "eminent scientist from New York" whose testimony so proved the chicken catcher's innocence that he pled, and was found guilty, of sexual abuse. (a moment o'victory in H's ethically-warped mind)

19 posted on 06/30/2003 10:09:35 PM PDT by jla
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To: Mia T
And SHE is just as guilty as he, perhaps even more so.

If not more guilty, H is certainly the more scary of the two.

And T, your original analysis was well thought out & well put forth.

20 posted on 06/30/2003 10:16:12 PM PDT by jla
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