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Oldest Human Skulls Found
BBC ^ | 6-11-2003 | Jonathan Amos

Posted on 06/11/2003 8:03:26 AM PDT by blam

Oldest human skulls found

By Jonathan Amos
BBC News Online science staff

Three fossilised skulls unearthed in Ethiopia are said by scientists to be among the most important discoveries ever made in the search for the origin of humans.

Herto skull: Dated at between 160,000 and 154,000 years old (Image copyright: David L. Brill)

The crania of two adults and a child, all dated to be around 160,000 years old, were pulled out of sediments near a village called Herto in the Afar region in the east of the country.

They are described as the oldest known fossils of modern humans, or Homo sapiens.

What excites scientists so much is that the specimens fit neatly with the genetic studies that have suggested this time and part of Africa for the emergence of mankind.

"All the genetics have pointed to a geologically recent origin for humans in Africa - and now we have the fossils," said Professor Tim White, one of the co-leaders on the research team that found the skulls.

"These specimens are critical because they bridge the gap between the earlier more archaic forms in Africa and the fully modern humans that we see 100,000 years ago," the University of California at Berkeley, US, paleoanthropologist told BBC News Online.

Out of Africa

The skulls are not an exact match to those of people living today; they are slightly larger, longer and have more pronounced brow ridges.

These minor but important differences have prompted the US/Ethiopian research team to assign the skulls to a new subspecies of humans called Homo sapiens idaltu (idaltu means "elder" in the local Afar language).

Herto reconstruction: What the ancient people might have looked like (Image copyright: J. Matternes)

The Herto discoveries were hailed on Wednesday by those researchers who have championed the idea that all humans living today come from a population that emerged from Africa within the last 200,000 years.

The proponents of the so-called Out of Africa hypothesis think this late migration of humans supplanted all other human-like species alive around the world at the time - such as the Neanderthals in Europe.

If modern features already existed in Africa 160,000 years ago, they argued, we could not have descended from species like Neanderthals.

"These skulls are fantastic evidence in support of the Out of Africa idea," Professor Chris Stringer, from London's Natural History Museum, told BBC News Online.

"These people were living in the right place and at the right time to be possibly the ancestors of all of us."

Sophisticated behaviour

The skulls were found in fragments, at a fossil-rich site first identified in 1997, in a dry and dusty valley.

Stone tools and the fossil skull of a butchered hippo were the first artefacts to be picked up. Buffalo fossils were later recovered indicating the ancient humans had a meat-rich diet.

The most complete of the adult skulls was seen protruding from the ancient sediment; it had been exposed by heavy rains and partially trampled by herds of cows.

SEARCH FOR HUMAN ORIGINS

The Herto skulls represent a confirmation of the genetic studies

The skull of the child - probably aged six or seven - had been shattered into more than 200 pieces and had to be painstakingly reconstructed.

All the skulls had cut marks indicating they had been de-fleshed in some kind of mortuary practice. The polishing on the skulls, however, suggests this was not simple cannibalism but more probably some kind of ritualistic behaviour.

This type of practice has been recorded in more modern societies, including some in New Guinea, in which the skulls of ancestors are preserved and worshipped.

The Herto skulls may therefore mark the earliest known example of conceptual thinking - the sophisticated behaviour that stands us apart from all other animals.

"This is very possibly the case," Professor White said.

The Ethiopian discoveries are reported in the journal Nature.


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To: blam
The oldest human skull would be Adam's and it would be 6000 years old.
21 posted on 06/11/2003 8:44:13 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssstian)
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To: blam
Hmmm.......now I wonder how the creationists are going to label this skull:

1. Simply an ape that has never been discovered before or...

2. Clearly just another human skull, with deformities and damage that makes it appear not human.

Yes, we're all familiar with that now tired shell game.

"There are NO transitional fossils in the record! NEVER have been", typical Creationist says.

"Ok, what about this skull 'X'?", typical response by an Evolutionist.

"Oh CLEARLY that's just another kind of ape, or the damage is too severe to say it's NOT a simple human skull, or..."...basically ANY response to deny that the ORIGINAL question was answered, at least to any OBJECTIVE eye.
22 posted on 06/11/2003 8:49:22 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: blam
Oldest Human Skulls Found

Somewhere in the Senate would be my guess.

23 posted on 06/11/2003 8:51:52 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: blam
http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/ataw/ataw309.htm
24 posted on 06/11/2003 9:01:53 AM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: FourtySeven
Clearly just another human skull, with deformities and damage that makes it appear not human.

The heavy brow was caused by excessive furrowing while pondering the second significant digit of pi. ;^)

25 posted on 06/11/2003 9:11:58 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: blam
These minor but important differences have prompted the US/Ethiopian research team to assign the skulls to a new subspecies of humans called Homo sapiens idaltu (idaltu means "elder" in the local Afar language).

Hahaha. A subspecies of humans? That's a laugh considering they have no DNA and the reconstruction was likely as fraudulent as the reconconstruction of the Neanderthal skulls. A recent book written by a trained orthodontist who examined the Neanderthal skulls showed that their reconsruction was fraudulent in that the jaws did not have the proper occlusions (an ortho ought to know!) - they were altered to create an apelike appearance.

Let's see...Piltdown Man, Peking Man, Nebraska Man, Java Man, Lucy, and now Homo Sapien Idaltu. BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

26 posted on 06/11/2003 9:17:28 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: FourtySeven
This guy is supposed to convinced me I evolved from apes?

Oh yeah. I'm convinced. Sign me up!

< /sarcasm off> Actually, he looks like a guy I work with.

27 posted on 06/11/2003 9:25:17 AM PDT by far sider
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To: exmarine
Neanderthal fossils have been turning up since the early 19th century. There are many, many specimens. Who's running around altering all the occlusions of all the jaws for all those fossils for all that time? What about all the other not-quite-human features such as the rib cage and upper/lower leg length ratios? (Many complete skeletons exist.)

It's rather easy to reject evidence if you're allowed to just allege fraud and walk away.

28 posted on 06/11/2003 9:27:22 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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Skulls reveal dawn of mankind

Ethiopian fossils confirm our African roots.
11 June 2003

MICHAEL HOPKIN

Homo sapiens idaltu: our 160,000 year old relatives.
source: Nature

Skulls found in Ethiopia are the oldest modern human fossils yet. The 160,000-year-old bones open a valuable window on the birth of Homo sapiens.

The fossils boost the theory that our species arose in Africa, says Tim White of the University of California, Berkeley, whose team made the discovery1. Many experts have argued that Africa was the cradle of humankind, opposing the view that we arose in several regions throughout the globe.

"It's a nice example of the fossil record confirming what we have believed," says Daniel Lieberman, who studies human evolution at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Head start

White and his colleagues came across the specimens in Herto, the scorching desert of Ethiopia's Middle Awash region. The haul comprises two complete crania - one adult, one child - and large fragments of skull from another adult.

The bones "have all the features of modern humans - there's nothing lacking", says Lieberman. For example, the adult cranium has a large, globular braincase and a flat face.

The crania also show some slightly more primitive characteristics, such as widely spaced eyes. This indicates the fossils' position at the root of the H. sapiens family tree. White's team has assigned the specimens to a new subspecies, H. sapiens idaltu.

The fossils were nestling amid a profusion of hippopotamus and antelope bones and a range of blades and other tools. This suggests that our ancestors were proficient butchers2.

The child's skull has a sheen which suggests it may have been handled after death.
source: Nature

The tools themselves show a mixture of fairly advanced Stone Age technology - in which sharp blades of the desired shape were struck from a prepared rock - and more primitive sharp stones. It seems that cultural innovation mirrored the development of modern humans' anatomy.

The human skulls themselves also sport blade marks - perhaps indicating that they were stripped of their flesh after death for preservation. The child's skull has a distinctive sheen, suggesting, says White, that it was repeatedly handled and could even have been used as an ornament or drinking vessel. "This could be the first glimmering of emotion surrounding death," he argues.

It's a plausible idea, agrees anthropologist Alison Brooks of George Washington University in Washington, DC. She points out that many tribal cultures in the modern world preserve the bones of the dead. But she warns that evidence of flesh removal is not necessarily evidence that bones were used in post-mortem rituals - it is often difficult to tell whether the bones were buried or kept.

Early signs

Having pinned our ancestors down in Africa, the question now is how did we evolve within that huge continent. Did modern humans, for example, start in East Africa and spread from there? Or did our various anatomical and cultural hallmarks arise in different regions?

I doubt we will find one single place where everything happened
Chris Stringer
Natural History Museum

"I doubt we will find one single place where everything happened," says Chris Stringer, who studies human origins at London's Natural History Museum. He suggests, for example, that desert conditions could have isolated early populations from one another. Such populations could have reintegrated sometime later, if the climate became more favourable, and shared the advanced traits they each had developed.

Questions like this will not be answered without more fossils of a similar vintage. "African fossil finds are very scattered," White says. "But maybe this [find] will focus people's attention on this period."

References
  1. White, T. D. et al. Pleistocene Homo sapiens from Middle Awash, Ethiopia. Nature, 423, 742 - 747, (2003). |Article|
  2. Clark, J. D et al. Stratigraphic, chronological and behavioural contexts of Pleistocene Homo sapiens from Middle Awash, Ethiopia. Nature, 423, 747 - 751, (2003). |Article|


© Nature News Service / Macmillan Magazines Ltd 2003

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29 posted on 06/11/2003 9:29:53 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: PatrickHenry
I probably didn't do that exactly right, I am a newbie at HTML. Anyway, it's a free article. You can register to read the free articles.
30 posted on 06/11/2003 9:31:12 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: exmarine
>>A recent book written by a trained orthodontist who examined the Neanderthal skulls showed that their reconsruction was fraudulent in that the jaws did not have the proper occlusions (an ortho ought to know!)<<

Oh, c'mon, if everybody had proper occlusions orthodontists would be out of work! (My uncle is an orthodontist, my dad a dentist, and they just couldn't keep from messing with my occlusion. It's a wonder I have teeth left.)
31 posted on 06/11/2003 9:35:04 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: blam
Nice find.

How do the creationists explain these almost-in-the-image-of-God fossils? God's sense of humor or his way of lying to fool the infidels?

32 posted on 06/11/2003 9:40:31 AM PDT by Nebullis
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To: CobaltBlue
Oh, c'mon, if everybody had proper occlusions orthodontists would be out of work! (My uncle is an orthodontist, my dad a dentist, and they just couldn't keep from messing with my occlusion. It's a wonder I have teeth left.)

Problem was that the occlusions were ALL WAY OFF. That is a problem. They also used "filler" material to fill in gaps in order to accomplish their deceit. The conclusion: Neanderthals were humans who lived to extreme ages (300-400 years), and that is why they have the dense bones and protruding brows, etc. Facial bones keep growing throughout life and the other bones become denser. It's a more believable explanation than Neanderthals weren't human. They were human. DNA difference means very little because human DNA can change and still be human. There are so many false conclusions drawn on Neanderthals, they are difficult to even count, and the point is that the conclusions are INFERENCES based upon worldview presuppositions, not confirmed scientific facts.

33 posted on 06/11/2003 9:48:28 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: VadeRetro
Neanderthal fossils have been turning up since the early 19th century. There are many, many specimens. Who's running around altering all the occlusions of all the jaws for all those fossils for all that time? What about all the other not-quite-human features such as the rib cage and upper/lower leg length ratios? (Many complete skeletons exist.)

There have been so many frauds, paleos aren't even believable any longer. They approach a fossil with the presuppostion that all life evolved, therefore all fossil evidence MUST be interpreted in that light regardless of whether there is credible evidence that points in another direction.

The Neanderthals were humans. There is no evidence that says otherwise. There are interpretations that say otherwise, but one must consider the biases before believing such evidences.

34 posted on 06/11/2003 9:52:42 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
I really feel let down that no one has yet posted a picture of Helen Thomas on this thread!!!!

You WANT to see a picture of Helen?

I urge you to seek help, man.

35 posted on 06/11/2003 9:57:06 AM PDT by LexBaird
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To: exmarine
If you're going to go down the road of "ALL the evidence is deliberately faked", you can rationalize anything under the sun, up to and including the innocence of O.J. Simpson.

Denial of evidence makes for a shifting sand upon which to build one's faith, however.

36 posted on 06/11/2003 9:58:06 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: exmarine
>>DNA difference means very little because human DNA can change and still be human.<<

There are two kinds of DNA, nuclear DNA and mitochondrial DNA. Researchers study mitochondrial DNA, usually, not nuclear DNA, although I am not sure why. Mitochondrial DNA is passed on from your mother only, while nuclear DNA is a combination from your mother and father - they actually call it recombination, again I am not sure why "recombination" is better than "combination." Mitochondrial DNA is not recombined so remains stable over very long periods of time.

At any rate, mitochondrial DNA of both human skeletons and Neanderthal skeletons have been studied, and researchers are sure that there are no known Neanderthal female ancestors of any known human.

Maybe there are Neanderthal male ancestors, just not female.
37 posted on 06/11/2003 9:59:06 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: Physicist
If you're going to go down the road of "ALL the evidence is deliberately faked", you can rationalize anything under the sun, up to and including the innocence of O.J. Simpson.

Puh-lease. Read the article again and tell me what "evidence" they have for their conclusions. I didn't see any - all I saw were assumptions and unscientific conclusions.

38 posted on 06/11/2003 9:59:37 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Carry_Okie
ping
39 posted on 06/11/2003 10:01:15 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: exmarine
Read the article again and tell me what "evidence" they have for their conclusions.

Do you or do you not believe that all the skulls identified as Neanderthal have been deliberately modified?

40 posted on 06/11/2003 10:04:32 AM PDT by Physicist
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