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***Northeast Snowstorm*** February 16-17 2003 (Official Thread)
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Posted on 02/16/2003 8:19:33 AM PST by SamAdams76

Moderators, please pull if a similar thread has been started. I did a search on "snow" and blizzard" and came up with nothing.

What originally looked to be primarily a mid-Atlantic snowstorm has blossomed overnight into a monster snowstorm that threatens to shut down the major cities of the Northeast for tomorrow.

Just got the latest forecasts. Washington D.C. area will see 1-2 feet. Philly will see 17-34 inches according to their local mets. NYC will see 1-2 feet. And Southern New England (including Boston), which was originally thought to be missing this storm, is now pegged to get at least 10-20 inches before all is said and done with possible blizzard conditions tomorrow night as the storm explodes ("bombogenisis") off Nantucket island during the day.

Some very impressive snowfall reports already coming in despite the fact that the storm hasn't even developed off the coast yet. Some 8 inches is on the ground in the DC area and snow is falling heavily in the Philly area and parts of New Jersey. This snow is NOT from the storm that is expected to develop off the Carolinas this afternoon, move northeast and "explode" off Nantucket Island during tomorrow.

These storms are never a sure thing until they happen because they are so unpredictable. But this storm has all the ingredients to make it a storm of historic proportions from Washington D.C. to Portland, Maine. If everything falls together just right, we could be looking at 2 feet (or more) of snow in many urban areas of the Northeast over the next 36 hours.

Please post your local reports here.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Delaware; US: District of Columbia; US: Kentucky; US: Maryland; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: North Carolina; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: Rhode Island; US: South Carolina; US: Vermont; US: Virginia; US: West Virginia
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To: CaptRon
It looks like Connecticut is getting hammered now. In eastern MA we're getting about 1" an hour but should expect double that a little later.
941 posted on 02/17/2003 11:03:32 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: CaptRon
I bet it was.

I had 2 of them ask me to do it Saturday - after we had already done it from Friday night's snow. I don't expect the same offer anytime soon today!!
942 posted on 02/17/2003 11:05:23 AM PST by Gabz (Snow is beautiful - as long a it is gone tomorrow)
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To: sciencediet
Great flicker picture!

All my feeders and suet baskets have been busy all day, but I've also been throwing seed on the snow-- especially under bushes. I have to keep tossing more out as it becomes buried.

However-- awhile ago, a Coopers Hawk swooped down and flew off as quickly, so I guess he found what he wanted. I know--- he's God's creature, too, but I usually root for the little guys. When the Cooper or Sharp-shinned come by they fly from perch to perch looking for a meal. This time, tho - he didn't wait.

943 posted on 02/17/2003 11:10:39 AM PST by Exit148
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To: KLT
The sign is absolutely correct. Osama's strategy all along has been to dislodge the secular, socialist regimes (in Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, etc.) and the conservative royalist regimes (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.) and replace them with Islamicist regimes.

Towards that end, the 9/11 attack was designed by him to provoke an overreaction by the USA which would destablize the non-Islamicist regimes and radicalize the Arab populations. Bush thwarted Osama's plan at first, by restricting the response to 9/11 to simply overthrowing the Taliban regime in Afghanistan and ejecting Al Qaeda from Afghanistan.

However, by falsely tying the respone to 9/11 to Iraq and Saddam, Bush has finally given the kind of overreaction that Osama was originally looking for. If the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia was sufficient to radicalize a large number of Saudis, just imagine what the invasion and occupation of Iraq by US troops will do.

We are also doing Osama's dirty work by overthrowing non-Islamicist regimes; we are making Osama's wet dreams come true, by overthrowing regimes which the local Islamicists would never have any hope of overthrowing by themselves. Like Afghanistan (where we are slowly getting bogged down; hence the lack of media coverage), if we want to see our compliant client regimes stay in power, and not be overthrown by Islamicists, we will have to leave a permanent occupation force; this in turn will further radicalize the local populations. It's a no-win situation; a tarpit which the neo-cons controlling the Bush administration are in a mad rush to push us into.

Just because you support Bush's foreign policy, does not mean that you have to be stupid, and stop thinking about cause and effect, and feel you have to disagree with every opponent of the war, on principle, facts-be-damned.

Oh, yeah, and it's snowing like mad up here in New England

944 posted on 02/17/2003 11:16:10 AM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: sciencediet
I have the opposite problem.

I feed the squirrels peanuts and the bluejays keep stealing them.

I just waded through the snow in my back yard and fed the birds and the squirrels before the heavy snow starts.

945 posted on 02/17/2003 11:16:19 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Exit148
Can you tell me which this is?

I was thinking either Cooper or Sharp-shinned, but don't know my hawks too well. Jays are always chasing these beautiful birds away.

946 posted on 02/17/2003 11:25:16 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Wednesday's Child
About the squirrel and the corn ---- I have a spoke attached to a tree with four screws on each spoke (to attach dried corn cobs) It is the same idea as your husbands, but there are four points - like a +. I got it to deter the squirrels from my feeders, but instead of having the normal 15 to 20 squirrels, the contraption attracted many MANY more!

Now I only use it when the grandkids come, as it is a source of amusement for them.

I had one of those electrified feeders, but the squirrels figured out how to avoid the 'spark'. Now I have two of the big feeders with the weight bar and it works quite well.

I also have several suction-cut window feeders, and it is a riot to watch the squirrels try to reach them. They don't reach them, but they don't stop trying. It's not as tho these guys are starving! They get plenty of food here. It is a squirrel haven!

947 posted on 02/17/2003 11:26:59 AM PST by Exit148
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To: Capt. Tom
Squirrels once ate our ceiling.
948 posted on 02/17/2003 11:28:30 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: SamAdams76
Stay safe, Sam.

A NJ friend at work bought a snowblower just this year. I betcha he's feeling preiscent(sp).

949 posted on 02/17/2003 11:28:40 AM PST by Oschisms (Us runners finally have a President we can be proud of)
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To: sciencediet
Greetings from Meriden, Conn., the middle of the state -- it's 14:36 EST and I don't think I've ever seen such a rate of snowfall -- 3-4 inches an hour, easy. Just did one big sweep of the estate with my 10hp snowblower, and will surely have to do another before bed. "Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!"
950 posted on 02/17/2003 11:37:46 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: sciencediet
About the hawk --I can't tell. A Sharp-shinned is as long as a blue jay and the tail is quite narrow with the tip straight cut across.

A Cooper is larger -- almost as long as a crow (not as heavy) and the tail is less narrow and a bit rounded at the tip.

The birds are scared stiff of these two. We always have a Red-Tailed Hawk in the neighborhood, but the birds seem to know when he is out to get them and when he is just looking for mice.

951 posted on 02/17/2003 11:38:02 AM PST by Exit148
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To: Gabz
My teens have made $90 today -- shoveling out neighbors' cars and doing sidewalks, DS also shoveled off a patio so the neighbors dog could go potty -- kids are both in now--a bit cold and wet but happy

Stupid confession -- we forgot to check the garage door last night -- it was open !! We have 2 old but still working TVs out there that got slightly drifted on -- hopefully they'll dry out and work ??

952 posted on 02/17/2003 12:04:46 PM PST by twyn1 (God Bless America !)
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To: sciencediet
I just saw a flock of robins last week here in West Mich. We got hit with a surprise snow storm last Tues.(some are calling it a blizzard, but I don't think the winds were sustained at 35mph) so I really feel for you all. Doesn't anyone out there have snowmobiles? Sometimes, it's the only way to get around.

It looks like you won't have to put up with the snow for too long, though. Temps later this week are supposed to be in the upper 30's and lower 40's for the Philly/NYC/Balt./D.C. area. You might want to look into getting the sand bags ready!!

953 posted on 02/17/2003 12:06:14 PM PST by gracex7 (God of wonder beyond our galaxy, You are holy,holy. The universe declares Your majesty, You are holy)
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To: baseballfanjm
We have 3 inches of sleet with an ice crust. At 200 lbs, I still don't weigh enough to break the crust. So we decided to go sledding. It was fun until my son sent the sled down into the holler and I had to scrape through the barbed wire and go down there to fetch it. I was afraid I was going to run into a still and get shot. Fast sledding though.
954 posted on 02/17/2003 12:18:39 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Darksheare
Come visit me down here in snow-free Georgia and you can thaw out in my hot tub. ;-)
955 posted on 02/17/2003 12:21:02 PM PST by Jen (What is this 'snow' stuff?)
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To: AppyPappy; All
"After action" photo from the Commonwealth of Virginia at Great Falls.

We've had a little snow here at the cottage.

The front yard has three concrete benches, one near the lamp post near the center of the photo, one that would appear immediately to the left of the fountain and straight back, and a third that is out of range of the photo to the right. They're still there - just buried.

956 posted on 02/17/2003 12:21:54 PM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society (Conservatives aren't perfect, we're just right.)
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To: SamAdams76
14 inches in my part of Pittsburgh PA. I've been shoveling on and off for 24 hours.

But I LUV this weather!!!!

957 posted on 02/17/2003 12:25:13 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
Don't worry VBWC.....I may support Bush's policies...but I'm not an idiot...I see with my eyes and hear with my ears...

But these crazy wacko make believe peacenik freakazoids are makin things tough on everyone...they waste taxpayer money with their disgusting presence and aggrivate an already explosive situation...

There's no doubt, we are definately living the result of 8 years of Clintoooon appeasement...there's no easy way out...

It's crazy here in NY....I have 3 feet right in front of my door...I'm goin buggy in this house...

Good luck up there, my friend...and take good care...

Karen AKA KLT

958 posted on 02/17/2003 12:40:22 PM PST by KLT (NY NEEDS TO BE CLINTONFREE!)
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To: Darksheare
Today was a previously scheduled day off due to the holiday..but it is looking like tomorrow will be a previously UNSCHEDULED day off.

Cabin fever in a big major way...I can see just the middle line of my car..it's otherwise covered top and bottom.

959 posted on 02/17/2003 12:49:19 PM PST by Neets (#@&* SNOW)
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To: Temple Owl
My #767 goes for you as well.
960 posted on 02/17/2003 1:00:18 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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