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Sean Hannity is gonna hang himself with this Lott issue.
Sean Hannity's Website ^

Posted on 12/12/2002 1:53:42 PM PST by VaBthang4

Hannity.com Frontpage:

"Saying he used "a poor choice of words," Trent Lott spoke with Sean on the newsmakers phoneline at length on December 11th in an exclusive interview. This follows a firestorm of criticism by Liberals and Conservatives alike in reaction to comments made by Lott at Sen Strom Thurman's 100th birthday party."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Free Republic; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: hannity; lott; nazi; radio; segregation
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To: BnBlFlag
Well, if you're one of the hillbillies who agrees that having had a segregation President was just what this country needed then I dont [nor does anyone else of importance] care how you vote.

The Planet would be better off without you.

~Grin~

Maybe you could apply for protected minority status.

LOL
161 posted on 12/12/2002 6:08:09 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Temple Owl
I may agree with you.
162 posted on 12/12/2002 6:10:01 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Walkin Man
See post #156.
163 posted on 12/12/2002 6:11:02 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: EternalVigilance
Thank You.
164 posted on 12/12/2002 6:14:32 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
How about making reality-based suggestions.

It goes like this:

1. Hammer them on "selective moral outrage." Don't let them get away with the excuse that they never portrayed themselves as moral leaders.
2. Point out the "shrill voices" that keep picking on Lott while ignoring all the other more aggregious incidents.
3. Point out the media that feed the frenzy against Lott while trying to claim that no Liberal Bias exists in the newsrooms.
4. Point out who it is that is playing "politics of personal destruction" with a "destruction machine."
5. Keep pointing out the hypocrisy of Democrats accusing Republicans of what they themselves are doing.
6. Point out the hypocrisy of Democrats defending ethically-challenged members with "We have to let the people of ________ decide his fate" while instantly calling for Republicans to resign.
7. Go to 1.

The public has been watching how the Democrats operate. If they can be shown that the accusations are really a selective attempt at more Democrat power-grabbing by any means necessary, they will buy it. They have already seen the Democrats dance on Paul Wellstone's grave, overturn New Jersey election law, and blame the media and voters for their November loss. They can be made to see this as more desperation attacks on the incoming majority.

All the Democrats have to offer is fear. The people turned away from that in November. They want leadership. It is time for Republicans to lead and forget about the shrill cries from the Democrats.

-PJ

165 posted on 12/12/2002 6:15:44 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: VaBthang4
For the first time in my life I think Lott ought to stay. You can't let the insipid, morally bankrupt left drum our leaders out on a pretext. Lott is guilty of stupidity or not studying his speech of something, not racism. If Lott really meant to endorse 1948 style segregation, he is crazier than a loon. His other actions don't betray this. The Repubs ought to entertain a bid by Sen. Nickles and have a regular vote to see who who our next majority leader should be not drum Lott out on some Soviet style secret meeting.
166 posted on 12/12/2002 6:20:26 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: muawiyah
"So, whachyoutalkin'bout boy?"

I will assume you were trying to be cute there...kinda fell short.

"I am most concerned with the Democratic party's bias against Asian-Americans."

Another topic that doesnt have anything to do with the discussion.

Like I said...

This needs to be looked at cerebrally not emotionally.

If anyone honestly wants Lott to be the face of this party for the next two years [and you better believe that the media will defer to images of Lott before GW] then IMHO you have no grasp of modern politics and like most fools are willing to go down with the ship in order to make a statement that wont resonate past the clicking of your keyboard.

167 posted on 12/12/2002 6:22:25 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
He is developing a track record for comments that "have to be taken in their context" that coincidentally happen to offend Blacks.

Everything spoken by Republicans offends blacks--at least liberal blacks (which is most of them). Liberal blacks are well-practiced at being easily offended. It's what they do best. Their white democrat overlords have trained them well.

168 posted on 12/12/2002 6:24:45 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: VaBthang4
If anyone honestly wants Lott to be the face of this party for the next two years [and you better believe that the media will defer to images of Lott before GW]

Hmm. . .you mean they'll forget about how OUR president is supposedly stupider than a box of rocks and actually let him go about the people's business while the media and Democraps are focusing on the subtext of comments at a birthday party? More and more, that sounds like a good idea. My idea: Lott can step down ONLY IF he promises NOT to resign his seat AND he says that all the other racists must step down also. On the other hand, he can stay ML ONLY IF he promises Republicans that he will push through a conservative agenda without ANY kowtowing to the Democraps.

169 posted on 12/12/2002 6:33:45 PM PST by alwaysconservative
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To: SunStar
Appearances. If he resigns then that is proof that Pubbies are racists. Or don't you get it? This phoney outrage is what the Dems. always use to get their way. And the pubbies always let them.
170 posted on 12/12/2002 6:36:33 PM PST by willyone
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To: Political Junkie Too
You and I know these things...

And I agree to a point. However Sean Hannity is up there whining like a caught-red-handed Arab Terrorist who now wants to wine about the other side before dealing with his own problems [imho]. That to me is what it sounds like.

I personally think that Lott is a moron and for that alone I dont think he should be leading the Senate but with that said...I also believe he is a bit of a closet bigot.

His track record of making remarks [that are required to be taken in context] that also happen to offend "commonsense" Black people is becoming evident. And for that also...he needs to go.

I personally would draw it out a bit more and allow the Liberals to make some deeper and shriller comments...comments that go beyond the pale and will stick in Americans minds.

Then let'em have lot in an orgy of hate.

The first impression is [for Liberals] that they won.

In all truth...they would've helped to further expose themselves and lost.

But with all of that said...

Had Lott not made remarks that any competent Conservative would've known not to make, then the door to this wouldnt have opened.

Some people are too emotionally involved in this discussion. They are the individuals who give fuel to Liberals because when you think emotionally instead of cerebrally you make mistakes.

I'd encourage anyone to ask themselves...

If this situation had never have happened, would you want Trent Lott being the face of what we do over the next two years? Would you have trusted him to handle the Senate in a Conservative manner? Would you have trusted him not to make backdoor deals that kept Liberals alive?

If you let the Liberals eat him alive in front of the Nation then you are killing two birds with one stone.

Liberals will always interpret it their way...but those who tend to operate more towards the center will be repulsed by the Democrats and their lack of discretion and grace[imho].

This is chess not checkers.
171 posted on 12/12/2002 6:38:05 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: krodriguesdc
The way to defuse this is to have the Pubbies vote to change leadrship. Just resigning won't help. The party has to make a public show of rejecting him. He is a doofus but this phoney outrage is garbage.
172 posted on 12/12/2002 6:41:14 PM PST by willyone
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To: VaBthang4
Look, in 1948 you had Thurmond running on a die-hard segregationist platform. At the same time you had Harry Truman telling the French to go ahead and move back into their Asian colonies. This touched off the Vietnam war!

You also had Truman reimposing the Japanese colonial puppet Singman Rhee on the Korean people. At that very moment Kim Il Sung and the Nationalists fled North! Ultimately this led to the Korean War. Truman entered that war for purposes that had nothing to do with the welfare of the Korean people - he'd already shown that he didn't particularly care for them when he brought back Rhee.

Now, when you look at what Lott is saying - that he preferred Thurmond because it would have been better today, I think a serious analyst really would consider the value of NOT having had the Korean War or the Vietnam War, something possible if and only if Truman had lost, or, if you are a serious analyst, and still prefer Truman even though such preference brings with it the millions of people dead in both wars, as well as our own dead and butchered, then I'd say you have a rather bloodthirsty view of the world and should be watched closely by competent personnel.

173 posted on 12/12/2002 6:41:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ohioan
You are right. Too long has the racism charge been used as a club. Apologize and then say no more.
174 posted on 12/12/2002 6:42:52 PM PST by willyone
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To: Kevin Curry
Kevin I like you but that is a wrong statement.

My Girlfriend is Black/Conservative/Liberty University Student and she was turned off by what Lott said...even after considering it's context.

Now she learns of the other things he has been involved in [Bob Jones U and his appealing to the court for them even though BJU would not allow interracial relationships] and this latest thing about his actions in college and she is completely locked off. She [and I would wager many other middle of the road blacks] dont want to hear it.

Everything else comes off like excuses making. And honestly I think it is. Yeah we all know what the Liberals do...we arent Liberals. We clean up our messes and judgement begins in our house. I know peoples passions are involved but it just appears plain to me that Lott needs to go.
175 posted on 12/12/2002 6:46:05 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: muawiyah
LOL...Dude nobody wants to hear all of that.

Stay on point or get out of the discussion. You can muddy things up with all manner of things that are not remotely relevent to this specific subject but it is a waste of time.

I dont mean to sound disrespectful but you just bring a bunch of crap into it that doesnt have anything to do with anything at this point.
176 posted on 12/12/2002 6:49:02 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: muawiyah
No. I was responding to another post where a FReeper said we should not tolerate '50s style racism. Please reread my post in the proper context.
177 posted on 12/12/2002 6:53:12 PM PST by Orion
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To: VaBthang4
The statement Lott made is arguable. You do not seem prepared to argue it one way or the other. All you are doing is using the statement AlGore gave to AP concerning what was stated. AlGore is the one who said it was a racist statement!

In point of fact, it was a statement about whether or not Thurmond would have made a better President than Truman.

You might think that's a ridiculous question - you just love Truman, right?

Look, the Dems of that day were the party of racism. Thurmand didn't like blacks. Truman hated Asians.

Your lack of interest in that stark historic fact suggests some interesting things about your own attitudes toward Asians and Asian-americans - things that should disqualify you from ANY discussion of other folk's supposed racism.

178 posted on 12/12/2002 7:09:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Peach
Being held to a higher standard includes policing your own. Lott did this to himself.
179 posted on 12/12/2002 7:14:28 PM PST by dalebert
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To: muawiyah
"The statement Lott made is arguable."

Politically it isnt. If you argue it you will lose. All that can be done is to apologize profusely and hold on tight. That is currently the situation.

"All you are doing is using the statement AlGore gave to AP concerning what was stated."

I dont know what Al Gore said. And to be honest dont care what he said. With that said it is irrelevent. Trent Lott said what he said and he said it in a manner that left the door open to possible gross misinterpretation.

"You might think that's a ridiculous question - you just love Truman, right?"

??? Listen I'm sorry but I didnt read any of the other stuff that you have written in previous posts [I gave the reasoning behind that earlier]. So I am not sure...and dont care...how Truman plays into this for you. And to be frank...neither does 99% of the rest of America.

"Your lack of interest in that stark historic fact suggests some interesting things about your own attitudes toward Asians and Asian-americans"

Haha Grow up and let it go. I know bitterness has deep roots and tends to manifest itself in subjects that do not relate but with that said, I have no intention of discussing what did or didnt happen with Asian Americans. It is simply not related to this subject. Anyone with an ounce of commonsense tries to discuss the issue at hand instead of introduce their personal dogma [Dogma based on what some other President did in a time of war 50 years ago].

180 posted on 12/12/2002 7:24:58 PM PST by VaBthang4
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