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Disaster That Struck The Ancients
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| 7-26-2001
| Fekri Hassan
Posted on 12/08/2001 2:51:43 PM PST by blam
Thursday, 26 July, 2001, 12:12 GMT 13:12 UK
Disaster that struck the ancients
The pharaohs of the Egyptian Old Kingdom had built the mightiest legacy of the ancient world - the pyramids at Giza. But after nearly a thousand years of stability, central authority disintegrated and the country collapsed into chaos for more than a 100 years.
What happened, and why, has remained a huge controversy. But Professor Fekri Hassan, from University College London, UK, wanted to solve the mystery, by gathering together scientific clues.
His inspiration was the little known tomb in southern Egypt of a regional governor, Ankhtifi. The hieroglyphs there reported "all of Upper Egypt was dying of hunger to such a degree that everyone had come to eating their children".
Dismissed as exaggeration and fantasy by most other Egyptologists, Fekri was determined to prove the writings were true and accurate. He also had to find a culprit capable of producing such misery.
Stalactites and stalagmites
"My hunch from the beginning was that it had to do with the environment in which the Egyptians lived." Fekri felt sure the Nile, the river that has always been at the heart of Egyptian life, was implicated.
He studied the meticulous records, kept since the 7th Century, of Nile floods. He was amazed to see that there was a huge variation in the size of the annual Nile floods - the floods that were vital for irrigating the land.
But no records existed for 2,200BC. Then came a breakthrough - a new discovery in the hills of neighbouring Israel. Mira Bar-Matthews of the Geological Survey of Israel had found a unique record of past climates, locked in the stalactites and stalagmites of a cave near Tel Aviv.
What they show is a sudden and dramatic drop in rainfall, by 20%. It is the largest climate event in 5,000 years. And the date? 2,200 BC.
As Israel and Egypt are in different weather systems, Fekri needed evidence of some worldwide climate event to link this to the collapse of the Old Kingdom. And the evidence came out of the blue.
Geologist Gerard Bond, of the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University, US, looks for climate evidence in the icebergs of Iceland. As they melt on their journey south, they leave shards of volcanic ash on the ocean floor.
Dry lake
How far they travelled before melting tells him how cold it was. Cores of mud from the ocean floor revealed to him regular periods of extreme cold - mini ice ages - in Europe every 1,500 years, and lasting 200 years. And one mini ice age occurred at 2,200 BC.
Fekri Hassan: Looked at lake-bed cores
Gerard's colleague, Peter deMenocal, looked at climate records for the rest of the world at exactly the same time. From pollen records to sand, the story was the same - a dramatic climate change from Indonesia to the Mediterranean, Greenland to North America.
Scientists were confirming everything Fekri believed - severe climate change causing widespread human misery 4,200 years ago, misery we are only now learning about for the first time.
Back in Egypt, Fekri wanted to put the last piece of the puzzle in place. He wanted direct evidence of this severe climate change in the Nile. And he found it drilling cores in a large lake that had been fed by a tributary of the Nile in ancient times.
He discovered in the critical period, as the Old Kingdom collapsed, the lake had dried up completely - the only time in the whole history of this lake that this had happened. At last, Fekri felt he had proved that the writings on Ankhtifi's tomb were really true. It was nature that had driven people to desperation.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Egypt
KEYWORDS: ancientegypt; archaeology; bolide; catastrophism; climate; curseofagade; donovancourville; drought; economic; egypt; exodus; fekrihassan; ggg; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; history; iceage; impact; megadrought; mikebaillie; miniiceage; oldkingdom; paleoclimatology; sphinx; stalactites; stalagmites
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To: Maceman
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:14:05 PM PST
by
Fatuncle
(Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
To: blam
severe climate change causing widespread human misery 4,200 years agoExciting finding. This pushes back the origin of the SUV by over 4,100 years!
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posted on
12/25/2006 8:14:40 PM PST
by
Stultis
To: blam
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posted on
11/27/2007 2:16:02 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
To: Arleigh
I think he’s taking this description of Egyptian society as a metaphor for the direction that our own is taking. HMM?
184
posted on
03/28/2008 8:47:33 PM PDT
by
ArmyTeach
(Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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posted on
07/13/2008 10:04:34 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: Maceman
"I do know that a hell of a lot of lives and resources were wasted in the building of some of the most wasteful structures in human history"You will regret those words when the alien craft lands on the pyramid. (The movie "Stargate" was a DOCUMENTARY don'tcha know)
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posted on
04/10/2009 4:06:28 PM PDT
by
Mr. K
(physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
To: denydenydeny
CAN'T ANYONE WRITE SENTENCES BETTER THAN THIS MONSTROSITY ANYMORE??Had you been schooled in a tradition that included Latin grammar, you would have known that this is a perfectly reasonable classical construction. It is called the ablative absolute.
If you are going to be a compulsive grammarian, then you need to understand the rhetorical tradition underlying the sentence construction employed by the classically educated world, a world that has sadly shrunk to such a state that someone like you can post something like this, calling himself a compulsive grammarian, and get away with it.
None of us are perfect, but when you take out a sword and wield it, ensure it has not been dulled by time and ignorance.
To: AndyJackson
Let me get this straight. You're defending substandard English at the same time that you're calling ME ignorant?
I don't understand your "underlying rhetorical tradition" argument. A dangling modifier is simply an illiteracy in modern English usage.
It really doesn't matter how Ovid used to phrase it because--news flash--HE WASN"T WRITING IN ENGLISH. I write English.
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posted on
04/11/2009 8:23:06 AM PDT
by
denydenydeny
("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
To: denydenydeny
It is not substandard English and you just proved your abject ignorance. It is not a “dangling modifier.”
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posted on
04/20/2009 4:10:21 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
To: MHDouglas
Great Pyramids built about 2550BC
Ur-Nanshe 1st King of Sumer about 2520BC
Great Flood about 2344BC
Akkadian Dynasty in Sumer about 2334-2154BC
Urnammu King of Sumer about 2112-2095BC
Abraham about 1991-1816BC
Moses about 1250BC
Trojan Wars about 1250BC
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posted on
12/07/2012 2:56:28 AM PST
by
Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
To: denydenydeny; Mr. K
Not sure I'll get the joke right, but I'll try.
Mr. H has problems in the bedroom, so after trying all the regular doctors he tries a witch doctor. The witch doctor mixes up a potion, does some chants and tells him when it is time to perform in bed , count “1,2,3”.
When you are done, and no longer than 4 hours, count “1,2,3,4” to stop the erection. But then you have to wait 12 hours before you can go at it again.
He quickly drives home, tells his wife that he is finally cured and to get into bed. His wife of course is also exited and hops into bed. The man splashes on some extra cologne, and then says “1,2,3”.
The wife hears and asks “Honey, what is the 1,2,3 for?”
So the rule is, don't end your sentences with a preposition,
.
.
.
as it leaves you with a dangling participle.
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posted on
12/07/2012 3:20:59 AM PST
by
21twelve
(So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
To: SunkenCiv; Cvengr; blam
Fascinating. Great find.
Here’s the culprit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_al_Binni_lake
If you look around the area there are other similar depressions. The impact craters appear to indicate the objects came from the NE, perhaps an asteroid which broke-up prior to impact?
193
posted on
12/07/2012 7:00:00 AM PST
by
Justa
To: 21twelve
he he... you are a very cunning linguist, aren;t you
194
posted on
12/07/2012 11:01:33 AM PST
by
Mr. K
(some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
To: Justa
195
posted on
12/07/2012 9:19:45 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
To: Hop A Long Cassidy; All
What is less desirable, letting large unemployed populations sit unemployed and unpaid, or building large, impressive, or beautiful structures, that today bring in millions in tourist dollars to the countries in question?
To: SunkenCiv
A drought would of course occur after an impact event. I’ve been in that part of Iraq and the land is as flat as a pool table from formerly being a shallow sea. Any large, circular depression would be very suspect as it is not natural to the sedimentary seabed of a shallow, sand-blown ocean like the gulf.
There are two circular depressions near Umm Al Binni which are 20 miles in diameter.
197
posted on
12/08/2012 6:25:12 AM PST
by
Justa
To: Maceman
Those pyramids should stand as an eternal monument to the inherent folly of government spending. Excellent observation.
198
posted on
06/09/2013 8:07:01 AM PDT
by
oldbrowser
(We have a rogue government in Washington)
To: curmudgeonII
Unless you know the facts you don’t have the right to have an opinion.
You could always do what the liberals do and just make up your own facts.
199
posted on
06/09/2013 8:11:22 AM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: Fatuncle; Maceman; blam; SunkenCiv
OK!! OK!! I surrender!! Five years later and I still get replies bashing this response. Fine. Fine. Fine. Fine. Fine. I admit to not knowing what I was talking about. I was young! I made a mistake!! I’m sorry!!! Five years is a long time ago already!!! I’ve paid my debt to freeperdom. I’ve moved on. I’m sorry!! Time to forgive and forget! It’s Christmas! Can’t we all just get along??!!
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Truly, this is a thread which keeps on giving! Thanks.
200
posted on
06/09/2013 8:42:23 AM PDT
by
headsonpikes
(Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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