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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Screw these people Jim.

The last temper tantrum Arator had at my place, I did not bann him, I just dogged him out big time by laying it out exactly what I thought of him and vamoosh! he's gone. Most of the folks are not about the issues, most of these folks are all about themselves period.

The other websites stole a concept(not the code, the idea) and grew by putting your organization down. As stated at my place, I would rather shut down completetly than grow on your misfortune or by placing you in the cross hairs...no, don't shut down, start a counter attack.

I have been banned, I have had a black eye, I have had my problems staying a good boy here...bottom line is if I know to mind my Ps and Qs, these morons can also.

LG and her band of whatevers continually put you down, and you never have anything bad to say about them. WE ALL KNOW THE SITUATION when she started up over there, and I for one do not even give her a single hit because of it. But that is just me.

If you go down, do not go without a fight...

I could go on, but you have a lot of ground to cover on this thread already. Just offering my few cents.

Tim

821 posted on 11/29/2001 2:20:45 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: Constantine XIII
FR Rocks--love it or leave it! I vote for option number three. Make it better, like it used to be.
822 posted on 11/29/2001 2:21:08 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: wewillnotfail
There is still a lot of value here, but it used to be better. Quality people with inspired minds, discussing events and learning from each other. Now you find 200 post threads with nothing but one liner insults.

Your post #808 echoed my sentiments exactly and in particular the above quote.

823 posted on 11/29/2001 2:21:37 AM PST by staytrue
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To: Jim Robinson
Ohmigawd!!!!! (breathing into paper bag).

Free Republic go away? Quick, start the fundraiser today! $$$$ on the way!

824 posted on 11/29/2001 2:21:52 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Jim Robinson
FREE REPUBLIC is exactly that - free! Freedom of thought, freedom of opinion, freedom of expression.

This is the only forum I know of in which participants are allowed to post their views and/or announcements as articles.

Free Republic is as important as Rush, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity in spreading the word!

825 posted on 11/29/2001 2:21:59 AM PST by Shenandoah
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To: Revelation 911
4.) charge for vanity posts

AMEN


826 posted on 11/29/2001 2:23:52 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: mystomachisturning
Thanks for responding!
827 posted on 11/29/2001 2:24:31 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Jim Robinson
Make freerepublic a for-pay site. One must pay at least $5 every second month to be in the game. $30 per year from each....with many giving more..... should cover it.

$30 x 10,000 paying to post freepers comes out to $300,000 per year. A good start! You will lose $20,000 processing this money so make it $280,000 for the take.

828 posted on 11/29/2001 2:25:19 AM PST by dennisw
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To: WatchOutForSnakes; PumaMan; Sissay
Jump in here.
829 posted on 11/29/2001 2:28:03 AM PST by Ima Lurker
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it running. This is the best place on the internet.
830 posted on 11/29/2001 2:29:08 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Jim Robinson
"If it offends you....cut it off"
831 posted on 11/29/2001 2:30:48 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: Jim Robinson
When I hit the lottery you guys will be fully funded.

I'm working on ut!

832 posted on 11/29/2001 2:32:09 AM PST by Captiva
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To: Jim Robinson
KEEP FREEREPUBLIC.COM!

You definitely have my vote. Is there any way to send in a donation by mail? We don't use plastic over here...

If you already answered, apologies... I couldn't read all 800+ posts at once...

Also, what about banner ads?

Thanks in advance.

Mrs Kus

833 posted on 11/29/2001 2:34:29 AM PST by cgk
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm not wealthy enough to do more than throw a drop in the bucket every once in awhile.

However, this Free Republic is the most useful newsgathering medium, and the most useful political outlet I have *ever* seen. I would be at a complete loss as to what to do if it weren't here. However, there might be a crippling, compromise solution...is it possible to move FreeRepublic to a moderated newsgroup to reduce costs?

Please don't take my Free Republic away.
834 posted on 11/29/2001 2:41:57 AM PST by Maelstrom
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To: VaBthang4
Hey, that's possibly the greatest picture of all time. I'm still laughing after five minutes.

Add all clymer liberals to the intended receiptiants list.

Let's Roll.

835 posted on 11/29/2001 2:42:03 AM PST by Licensed-To-Carry
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To: Jim Robinson
I've never read the reason you don't use advertisers.
836 posted on 11/29/2001 2:44:29 AM PST by Zipporah
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To: Jim Robinson
I vote for keeping it up, but whatever your deciscion is will be alright with me.
837 posted on 11/29/2001 2:49:01 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: Jim Robinson
Jeez, I wouldnt have a homepage if FR went away. WAITAMINNIT!!! I wouldnt have a life if FR went away!!! It has been a while since I made a donation but you can count on one for the FReepathon. Gotta pay the rent first tho...JFK

PS-Have any of the disruptors replied to JimRob's gracious offer to air their greivances? If so, could someone direct me to a post or two. 850+posts is just too dang many to look at.

PPS-Jim, dont be ridiculous bud. FR is the greatest thing to happen to the internet, period. I am surprised the DOJ Anti-Trust Division hasnt come after you. FR FoRever!!!...JFK

838 posted on 11/29/2001 2:49:20 AM PST by BADROTOFINGER
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To: Jim Robinson
Looks like we're currently running about 580 to 3

I'm with you all the way to SCOTUS if those 3 start dangling chads!

839 posted on 11/29/2001 2:52:04 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Jim Robinson
I will vote with a donation. You are appreciated beyond words.
840 posted on 11/29/2001 2:55:12 AM PST by beekeeper
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