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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: LJLucido
VAnity threads don't bother me at all! Some of them are entertaining, funny, and some are even thought provoking!
161 posted on 11/28/2001 8:00:49 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: VA Advogado
bump
162 posted on 11/28/2001 8:00:53 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Jim Robinson
Sorry, Jim...you're going to find that most of us will stand right by your side, and we'll do WHATEVER IT TAKES to keep FR going. As a society, we pay a monthly fee for cable; a monthly fee for newspapers and magazines; and L-rd only knows what we spend on books! Jim has graciously allowed us to access THE MOST INFORMATIVE NEWS FORUM on planet Earth free of charge! A small percentage of the posters go above and beyond the call of duty to support FR monthly and quarterly because they love it here! Others of us here are 'poor as church mice', but we still dig deep to help keep this site going. Freedom is NOT free! Besides, if Free Republic goes down, who's going to keep an eye on Hillary? :-)



163 posted on 11/28/2001 8:00:58 PM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: Jim Robinson
Who is suing you.
164 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:09 PM PST by weikel
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To: PatrioticAmerican
P.S.S. NEVER use advertisers. They would clutter the site and detract from our unbiased, and sometimes entertainingly harsh, opinions.

I disagree. There are ways to make advertising unobtrusive, and it is never necessary to kow-tow to advertisers.

There is something basically immoral about the expression, "non-profit." If FR has a value, which I believe it does, there will be no problem making it a "for profit" operation. That is the essence of free enterprise, which is the heart of a free repbulic.

Hank

165 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:10 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Jim Robinson
The major pundits and talking heads cruise this site often. RINO was a term coined here and now you hear it on FOX. Rush has used terms straight off this site and has even got into good natured fights with it. SORE LOSERMAN was born here and is now an American Icon. This site kept the light of truth burning during the dark night of corruption and cover-ups of the Clinton regime. It's very ability to reveal the truth and expose Media outlets  ( like the LA Times and The Washington Post ) as unofficial mouthpieces of the RAT party has made these powerful forces of evil aware of its existence along with their desire to shut it down.

It would be a shame to let such evil win.
166 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:12 PM PST by Nateman
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To: Jim Robinson
If you wanted to make FR a for-profit site, and succeeded, that would be the American Way. The premise is all wrong here. Let them whine at your success and great popularity.

Making FR a fee based non-profit membership service will limit disruptive hit-and-run members and save some bandwidth for those who value it the most. That, too, would be a fine form of organization. Just choose something that is self-sustaining and pleases you, and is properly disclosed, to the extent the law requires. Period. You have no moral obligation to do more that I can see.

167 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:15 PM PST by Starrgaizr
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To: Jim Robinson
Please keep FP alive. I'm addicted; I'll ante up.
168 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:28 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: nopardons
Ye speaketh the truth.... Bring it back to political issues. Who cares if a Freeper is single. Join a local chapter and get involved. Who cares what kind of computer to buy. Ban Vanities....
169 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:35 PM PST by ARA
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To: Jim Robinson
They can kiss my ass. All anti-freepers have no life besides talking about this site day after day. They have no clue what it takes to run a business.

This is a great site and their spew is like watching 3 and 4 year olds. Like watching the rats nest. LOL

Keep up the good work. You are doing something right if they hate this site so much.

Yep just checked and this is a hot topic at their rats nest!

BUMP TO #1 Conservative News Forum web site in the world!

170 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:48 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Paul Atreides
...you don't like what you see, you are not forced to remain to view it. If people don't like this site, there are other sites to go to. If people don't like certain threads, no one is forced to read them.

Hear hear!!! I think most Freepers understand this, as it is only common sense. :)
171 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:54 PM PST by k2blader
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To: LJLucido
That's a very good idea. I have sent a lot of people over to FR, most of whom are slowly becoming addicted. =) However, it took them time to become aquiainted with the site. Prayers for the preservation of your wonderful enterprise.
172 posted on 11/28/2001 8:01:55 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Jim Robinson; Inspector Harry Callahan
I applaud your efforts to address all of the issues confronting you. Well done.

Harry, care to comment?

173 posted on 11/28/2001 8:02:04 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Jim Robinson
Please don't let the angry folks get to you.
There's never been a website so great.
Keep it up, but my donation has to wait until after Christmas, if that's OK.
I have kids. They want EVERYTHING for Christmas!
I'm broke until 1/1/02!
174 posted on 11/28/2001 8:02:12 PM PST by bookworm89
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To: Jim Robinson
OK, well........this is definitely what is known in the vernacular as a "no-brainer".

Now.......about chuck allen.......are you serious? Chuck???????

175 posted on 11/28/2001 8:02:28 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Jim Robinson

We'll Keep the 'Light' on for you, Jim, Lord willing.

"Whereever two or more are gathered in my name, there I am also." Can't beat the company here at FR {;~)

176 posted on 11/28/2001 8:02:34 PM PST by d14truth
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To: Jim Robinson
There's no place like home :)
And you betcha I'll be contributing on the next Freepathon and those upcoming. I do not want to see FreeRepublic go away and would be very sad if it did.
FreeRepublic is my home away from home!
God Bless FreeRepublic!
177 posted on 11/28/2001 8:03:01 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: Jim Robinson
The libs would be dancing in the streets were FR to go the way of other dot bombs. It has been a few months since I have contributed, but I will gladly contribute more if necessary.

Regardless of the outcome, thank you for all that you do and have done, JR!

178 posted on 11/28/2001 8:03:12 PM PST by Major Matt Mason
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To: ladyinred
VAnity threads don't bother me at all! Some of them are entertaining, funny, and some are even thought provoking!

I agree. That was just one of those "If I had a nickel for every time........" type of comments. I'll bet a dollar for each "Bad American" thread would have paid for a month of FR by itself.

179 posted on 11/28/2001 8:03:49 PM PST by LJLucido
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To: Jim Robinson
Wow, 167 replies in the time it took to read this, and probably another 167 as I type this. I say rock on, the fact that this site is so successful as a private entreprise is an embarrassment to the DNC-sponsored types that we all know are out there and shall remain nameless.
180 posted on 11/28/2001 8:03:50 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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