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Trump Invokes Kirk’s Killing in Justifying Measures to Silence Opponents
https://www.nytimes.com ^
 | Sept 17 2025
 |  Zolan Kanno-YoungsAndrew DuehrenKenneth P. Vogel and Katie Rogers
Posted on 09/17/2025 2:23:15 AM PDT by Beowulf9
President Trump has begun a major escalation in his long-running efforts to stifle political opposition in the United States, using the assassination of the right-wing activist Charlie Kirk to make the baseless argument that Democratic organizations and protesters are part of a violent conspiracy against conservative values and the American way of life.
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    'baseless argument'?!!!
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posted on 
09/17/2025 2:23:15 AM PDT
by 
Beowulf9
 
To: Beowulf9
    the baseless argument that Democratic organizations and protesters are part of a violent conspiracy against conservative values and the American way of life. The evidence is about as thick as an old phone book.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 2:29:00 AM PDT
by 
ClearCase_guy
(Democrats seek power through cheating and assassination. They are sociopaths. They just want power.)
 
To: Beowulf9
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posted on 
09/17/2025 2:39:19 AM PDT
by 
spincaster
(ifi)
 
To: Beowulf9
    Now the left, which censored during Covid, post 2020 elections, after J6, regards Ukraine and LGBTQIA is worried about “free speech?”
Is this a joke?
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 2:39:37 AM PDT
by 
Red6
 
To: Red6
    “...Is this a joke...?”
No, it’s not a joke. Not even CLOSE to being a joke.
The left are striking back, and striking back HARD.
Judging by the shift that has happened in the tone of nearly every online community I am part of over the past couple of days, the left has very much gone gloves-off. The narrative is being *FIRMLY* forced into the idea that Charlie was a Fascist that openly called for violence, and “Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword.”
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 2:48:41 AM PDT
by 
Kriggerel
("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
 
To: spincaster
    Dang it!
That’s what I was going to say!
So I will anyway:
BASELESS, MY ASS!
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 2:52:38 AM PDT
by 
Adder
(End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
 
To: Beowulf9
    The baseless argument again.
If they call something a baseless argument, it’s true.
There are all sorts of baseless arguments, but these newspapers don’t pass judgement on them but report them as claimed.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 2:52:38 AM PDT
by 
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
 
To: Kriggerel
    This will not end well for them.
 
To: All
    Is this a joke?......the loony left, which censored the rest of us during Covid, post-2020
elections, after J6, wrt Ukraine and LGBTQIA, is NOW worried about “free speech?”
Hit a snag, did they?
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 2:55:38 AM PDT
by 
Liz
(May you be in Heaven half an hour before the devil knows you're dead (Irish blessing))
 
To: Beowulf9
    I hope President Trump sues the sh!t out of the Gray (Old) Lady.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 3:32:42 AM PDT
by 
Jack023
 
To: Beowulf9
    I’m guessing they’ll change their time after a payout of the $15b lawsuit.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 3:43:27 AM PDT
by 
maddog55
(The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
 
To: Beowulf9
    ... efforts to stifle political opposition in the United States...Will it be less bloody than the way Liberals do it - sniping from an ambush position?
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 4:33:16 AM PDT
by 
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
 
To: Jack023
    Well, that’s the slow way.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 4:34:24 AM PDT
by 
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
 
To: Beowulf9
    It took four retards to write this drivel.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 4:38:39 AM PDT
by 
TTFlyer
(Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
 
To: TTFlyer
    How dare you.
I worked with people who are mentally slow and, while not quite the same, on the spectrum. They are generally positive people who do their best to get things right. Many of them work at my grocery store. They are often chatty and usually leave me with a positive outlook.
The four people who wrote this article can’t hold a candle to anyone who’s “retarded.”
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 4:45:14 AM PDT
by 
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
 
To: Beowulf9
    Wow. These people are delusional.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 5:03:33 AM PDT
by 
vivenne
(7Come to think of it.   Fact)
 
To: Kriggerel
    Further proving that the Left is incapable of telling the truth. We must never forget this.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 5:04:53 AM PDT
by 
vivenne
(7Come to think of it.   Fact)
 
To: Beowulf9
    
New York Slimes
To: ClearCase_guy
    Trump “censors” the same way one censors cockroaches by turning on the lights. He exposes their insanity and they go scrambling. Truth to DemoKKKrats is being “silenced” as their lies then carry no weight. So they just lie harder.
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 5:30:22 AM PDT
by 
FiddlePig
(The greatest threat to our sacred liberty is to not value it!””)
 
To: DoodleBob
    Your observation is spot on!
 
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posted on 
09/17/2025 5:41:27 AM PDT
by 
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
 
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