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Want a Million Dollars? Get Busy Deciphering This Ancient Script. A prize offered by an Indian state leader is intended to shed light on a Bronze Age civilization — and settle a cultural battle.
New York times ^ | 1st February 2025 | Pragmatic K. B.

Posted on 02/01/2025 3:09:57 AM PST by Cronos

It is a riddle that has confounded scholars for over a century. And now it carries a handsome cash prize: $1 million for anyone who can decipher the script of the ancient Indus Valley civilization.

Relatively little is known about the creators of the script, who built a sprawling urban system about 5,000 years ago across what is modern-day India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Excavations at more than 2,000 sites have unearthed a wealth of artifacts. But until the civilization’s script can be read, its language, culture and religion, as well as the history of its rise and fall, will remain shrouded in mystery.

The prize, announced by M.K. Stalin, the chief minister of the southern state of Tamil Nadu, is intended to renew efforts to decipher the script. The push, however, is not merely about historical scholarship. It is the latest front in a cultural war over India’s ancient past.

It is a riddle that has confounded scholars for over a century. And now it carries a handsome cash prize: $1 million for anyone who can decipher the script of the ancient Indus Valley civilization.

Relatively little is known about the creators of the script, who built a sprawling urban system about 5,000 years ago across what is modern-day India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Excavations at more than 2,000 sites have unearthed a wealth of artifacts. But until the civilization’s script can be read, its language, culture and religion, as well as the history of its rise and fall, will remain shrouded in mystery.

The prize, announced by M.K. Stalin, the chief minister of the southern state of Tamil Nadu, is intended to renew efforts to decipher the script. The push, however, is not merely about historical scholarship. It is the latest front in a cultural war over India’s ancient past.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: agglutinative; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; harappa; harappan; india; indus; indusvalley; rajeshpnrao; rajeshrao; script; tamil
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1 posted on 02/01/2025 3:09:57 AM PST by Cronos
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


2 posted on 02/01/2025 3:33:14 AM PST by Redcitizen
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To: Cronos

D R I N K Y O U R O V A L T I N E

Id like it in small bills please


3 posted on 02/01/2025 3:38:20 AM PST by Craftmore
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To: Cronos

4 posted on 02/01/2025 3:44:43 AM PST by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Craftmore

5 posted on 02/01/2025 3:49:06 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: Redcitizen

It reads...”Make me a sammich”.

Send check, and hurry.


6 posted on 02/01/2025 4:05:55 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Cronos

I S A V E D A B U N D L E B Y S W I T C H I N G T O G E I C O

Never mind, Marco Rubio used this one when speaking after his swearing in.


7 posted on 02/01/2025 4:12:04 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Cronos

As an aside, There’s talk of the use of AI to try to translate petrogyphs, in particular the ones on Shamans Wall.


8 posted on 02/01/2025 4:20:57 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (Lupus urbem intravit. Fulminis ictu vultures super turrem exanimat. )
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To: Cronos

Hmm... Lets see here... Don’t —forget
To
Drink
Your
Ovaltine.


9 posted on 02/01/2025 4:27:52 AM PST by Cowman
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To: Cowman

I figured it out.

BARACKHUSSEINOBAMAMMMMMMHMMM


10 posted on 02/01/2025 4:42:51 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Privatize the administrative state!)
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To: Redcitizen
Thanks for the ping.

11 posted on 02/01/2025 4:46:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Cronos

AI hasn’t deciphered it yet?


12 posted on 02/01/2025 4:54:07 AM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: Cronos

Here, I got it…Send more Chuck Barry.


13 posted on 02/01/2025 4:54:17 AM PST by The Louiswu (You get what you vote for, good and hard.)
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To: Cronos

Indus Valley Civilization First


14 posted on 02/01/2025 5:03:55 AM PST by Ciexyz (Prayers for America and Israel.)
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To: Cronos
Fwiw, here’s an engineer that claims to have deciphered it . The engineer does cryptograms as a hobby. During Covid, he was looking for something to occupy his mind.

Indus Script Deciphered! What It Means for Hinduism, Sanskrit and Bharat | Yajnadevam on ACP 91

Ha ha ha a 2 hour interview , not sure how many people will sit through that.

Some of the highlights , as per the interviewer.

Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) is an expert working on the decipherment of the Indus script, a crucial topic in the Aryan Invasion/Migration debate. The discussion ties to the origins of Hinduism, Sanskrit, and Indian history.

Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) discusses his groundbreaking work on deciphering the Indus script (AKA Harappan script or Sarasvati-Sindhu script), which is central to the debate surrounding the origins of Hinduism and Sanskrit. Bharath Rao, who has a background in engineering and cryptography, explains how he approached the problem by modeling the script as a cryptogram, utilizing information theory to validate his findings.

Throughout the conversation, he challenges established narratives, particularly the Aryan Invasion Theory, asserting that Sanskrit and Hinduism are indigenous to India and date back thousands of years.

The episode covers the methodology used in decipherment, including pattern recognition and regular expressions, as well as the implications of the findings for understanding ancient Indian civilization.

Yajnadevam emphasizes the continuity of culture from the Harappan period through to later Indian history, arguing that contemporary Hinduism can be traced back to these ancient roots.

If 2 hours is too much , here is a different, shorter interview at 45 minutes.

Breaking The Code: Deciphering The Enigma Of The Indus Script With Yajnadevam | Podcast | N18P

15 posted on 02/01/2025 5:12:33 AM PST by OldHarbor
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To: GreenLanternCorps

ALLOUTOFCHICKENMCNUGGETSWTFHAVEATYOU


16 posted on 02/01/2025 5:18:15 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: Cronos

“But until the civilization’s script can be read, its language, culture and religion, as well as the history of its rise and fall, will remain shrouded in mystery.”

_______

Maybe it says something about gender fluidity being adopted and hence their fall.


17 posted on 02/01/2025 5:29:56 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Cronos

On the small shard discovered within the sacrificial temple alter niche, the deciphered message is said by some graduate students to read “Paki’s will rule England”


18 posted on 02/01/2025 5:39:10 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: Cronos

The CCP’s new AI SleekLeak should be able to handle that in just a few minutes.


19 posted on 02/01/2025 6:12:31 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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But will they pay out if the script turns out to be Proto-Sinitic (China),or oldies like Proto-Dravidian(Tamil), Semitic, Uralic (Hungarian,Finnish etc?)


20 posted on 02/01/2025 6:41:12 AM PST by epluribus_2
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