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Moscow warns West after Ukraine told it can hit Russia with Western weapons
BBC ^ | May 31, 2024 | Paul Kirby

Posted on 05/31/2024 6:40:12 AM PDT by McGruff

Russia has accused Nato and the US of "provoking a new level of tension" after the US and Germany became the latest allies to let Ukraine's military to use Western-supplied weapons to strike targets inside Russia.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Nato countries, especially the US and several European countries, had "entered a new round of escalating tension and they are doing this deliberately", in remarks quoted by the Tass news agency.

The UK and France had already signalled they were open to easing restrictions on Ukraine striking military sites on Russian territory, before US President Joe Biden said on Thursday night that American-supplied weapons could be used.

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; War
KEYWORDS: escalation; killkillkillforpeace; mic; ukraine; welfarewar
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I don’t think there are any Russians
And there ain’t no Yanks

Just corporate criminals
Playing with tanks

-The Call (The Walls Came Down)


61 posted on 05/31/2024 8:04:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: McGruff

Well, in retrospect the Russians are using their weapons and Iranian drones to attack targets in the Ukraine. If they can do it...why can’t Ukraine?


62 posted on 05/31/2024 8:12:16 AM PDT by USAF1985 (Joe McCarthy is a hero...he was absolutely, 100% correct! (Let’s go Brandon!))
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To: srmanuel

What are you people drinking? This morning I’ve read how everyone in the west lusts after Russia and now you are saying the West thinks it will roll over Russia.

No one is saying either of those things.

Take a cold shower and cool off. Your propaganda is causing you to be delusional. No one wants Russia. It’s not that pretty.


63 posted on 05/31/2024 8:12:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: brownsfan

No it won’t.

The snowflakes won’t like getting drafted.


64 posted on 05/31/2024 8:13:49 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dfwgator
And jail all their opponents, like Wilson did during WWI.

Retroactively!
65 posted on 05/31/2024 8:17:46 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: McGruff
Moscow warns West after Ukraine told it can hit Russia with Western weapons

OTD in 1997 Ukraine & Russia signed the Russian–Ukrainian Friendship Treaty in which both promised to "respect each other's territory".


66 posted on 05/31/2024 8:21:46 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: McGruff
Moscow warns West after Ukraine told it can hit Russia with Western weapons

Partial list of threats of nuclear war by Russia that have just been bluffs.


67 posted on 05/31/2024 8:25:32 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: McGruff

Biden keeps pushing us towards nuclear war. Scary!


68 posted on 05/31/2024 8:31:33 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
Putin is hoping for another such collapse of popular support, and a change of leadership.

Biden's support, less than 6 months out,is at 38% *before* the banana republic verdict.

This will shift another large chunk of the black vote *to* Trump.

And the US will lose a war with Russia First the peace dividend under Clinton, then the endless Bush neocon wars without maintenance, then Obama purging the officer corps, the Biden's DIE: together with all the endless money thrown away on things like the Osprey, the Zumwalt destroyers, the hangar queen F-35, and the iffshoring of industrial capacity and shutdown of most armament production, and the lack of meeting recruiting targets...

Biden-bot status confirmed

69 posted on 05/31/2024 8:33:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
I’m sure the Putin Puffers will think it’s all worth it if their town gets hit and they are considered collateral damage. It’s for the cause ya know!

FYI…I don’t know any heterosexuals that talk like this
70 posted on 05/31/2024 8:37:20 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Vermont Lt

We were having a discussion between a couple of people and that was civil but as usual someone with a different opinion doesn’t just offer the opinion but offers insults instead

Anyone contemplating a war with Russia is the delusional person not people arguing against it, Russia isn’t Iraq, Al Qaeda or the Taliban

After over 20 years of failure in Iraq and Afghanistan including a disastrous withdrawal, no one has been fired or demoted and these same people people are contemplating a war with Russia, I suggest you look at those people and consider their sanity versus offering insults to other people arguing against it


71 posted on 05/31/2024 8:42:49 AM PDT by srmanuel (Q)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I don’t support Putin, you do.

Puff away...


72 posted on 05/31/2024 8:46:30 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: libertylover
Biden keeps pushing us towards nuclear war. Scary!

Allowing Ukraine to finally defend its city Kharkiv from Russian jets that drop massive bombs on civilian targets is not "pushing us towards nuclear war".

US officials tell CNN it’s just a "partial lift of the ban" as it only applies to Kharkiv

- Patriot can strike RU planes in the air

- ATACMS not allowed

- Strikes on parked planes not allowed

At least 16 killed in Russian strike on hardware store in Kharkiv-May 25, 2024


73 posted on 05/31/2024 8:58:42 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: dfwgator

We have lost that kind of musical wit, maybe it will come back if our rulers keep up with their idiocy.


74 posted on 05/31/2024 9:02:41 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (We have not yet achieved peak crazy)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Ukraine has lost over 170,000 KIA between January and May 31st in 2024. This puts their total KIAs at over 700,000 soldiers. Russia has yet to eclipse 100,000, but with the ops tempo they have now initiated they could well lose 25,000 a month while inflicting 50-60,000 KIA on Ukraine.

It has taken two years to bleed the Ukraine army of all its reserves. NATO wants to backfill the non-front line areas freeing up the totality of Ukraines AFU which now numbers 620,000 soldiers, down from 1.2M after 1M replacements in 2022.

Russia will not advance until it has wiped out the ability to Ukraine to move reserves into the breech to shore up the seven fronts. By the beginning of September all that rethoric about Russia’s failures will be replaced on the Map with them holding 50% of 1991 Ukraine and advancing.

Those 300,000 men set to attack Kiev area are there to remind the West that both major Ukrainian cities will be until total artillery fire control shortly. As for those wonder weapons in the Western areas of Ukraine, they will be destroyed about with the French, US and British operators who fire them at Russia.

In fact there are already reports that NATO soldiers are engaged against Russia again in the Kharkov region. NATO put them there as trip wire and they are fully engaged. Russia is making their presence a priority for “remains” in Ukraine forever option A.

Vlad is not the desperate one, it is the collective West as they sell their losing a war in Ukraine as the recipe for the rise of the Right against the Left. All those leaders who have pushed this war will be repalceed by the voters, starting in the US this November. Biden knows well losing in Ukraine is not going to play well for election campaign. Added to the Afghanistan debacle the military Genesis of Austin Lloyd and Jake the Snake Sullivan, have shown to be idiots in real time.


75 posted on 05/31/2024 9:50:10 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: eyeamok

Yes, that was my thoughts on going to the brink of nuclear war with Russia.

Will Biden risk DC in an exchange, or will he back off if and when Russia uses up to 40 TN’s in Ukraine wiping out our contingent attacking Russia, along with those of the Brits/French? Me thinks the Big 3 will not risk their home countries radiation free zones for a radiation zone in Ukraine. Hell, Ukraine is used to Radiation.


76 posted on 05/31/2024 9:52:41 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: sasquatch

When you send contractors to handle the weapons, fly the planes, you have given nothing except you’ve tried to hide your attacks using the colors of another nation. Those missiles cannot hit anything without the Satellite targeting data. America and our allies do not hand over such technology to corrupt Ukrainians who sell up to 20% of what we provide them on the black markets.


77 posted on 05/31/2024 9:54:58 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Savage Beast

Like Jake Sullivan talking two days ago about the USA killing thousands of civilians in Kosovar, Iraq, Afghanistan and Viet Nam without blikening an eye nor saying sorry that it is just a part of doing business the Chicago-way.

American is now actually becoming a Gangster nation right out of a G-Man Novel.


78 posted on 05/31/2024 9:57:31 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: PGR88

They are in disarray from overreach.


79 posted on 05/31/2024 9:58:34 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Justa

Kaddafi’s true crime was prosperity for his people and the threat of his 7B in Gold and 7B in Silver Reserves being used to float an African Dinar currency that was gold backed without loans throughout Africa.

Sadam’s true crime was his refusal to accept the USD and instead the Euro.

Biden, Blinken and Sullivan have given to Rise to Brics and Gold Back Currency serving 2/3s of the world’s population today.


80 posted on 05/31/2024 10:01:47 AM PDT by Jumper
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