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The Decline of American 'Civilization'
Townhall.com ^ | 3 September A.D. 2023 | Mark Lewis

Posted on 09/03/2023 7:42:07 PM PDT by lightman

“Civilization is an occasional and temporary interruption of the jungle.”—Will Durant.

“Civilization” or “being civilized” are not terms that are wholly easy to define. Vagaries and degrees can exist; it would be hard to argue that any human being is totally “uncivilized” or that any human being (or culture) has a monopoly on the term. We tend to think of “civilized” societies as those who possess at least a modicum of decent behavior and progress. Perhaps “civilization” can best be defined—though possibly not with total accuracy—as a distinction between man and the animal kingdom, or in the word Durant used, the “jungle.”

Animals—despite some idiotic Leftist claims today—don’t have morality, art, economic goals, religion, science—things that we have often considered to be representative of “civilized” societies. Some animals do, on occasion, show some features of what we might call “civilized” behavior, but such is not planned by intelligence; it is wholly by instinct and a desire for self-preservation. The “jungle” isn’t “civilized” in any intelligent definition of the word. “Civilization” is an offshoot of humans created in the image of God, yet with a crucial, important conception: God gives man freedom of moral choice and thus the freedom to descend into barbarity and the jungle if we choose to do so. As the quote from Durant suggests, and any good historian will tell you, such has happened in human history and not necessarily infrequently. Not many of us would call the Nazis “civilized.”

Thus, there is a standard of behavior—again, not always clearly or distinctly defined in human activity—which we can call “civilized” vs. “uncivilized.” When people sink below a certain standard of decency, responsibility, concern for their fellow creatures, and wise, virtuous conduct, it would be hard to call them “civilized.”

Are the inner cities of most Democratic Party-controlled metropolises “civilized”? I, personally, would not call them that. There is some behavior everywhere that classifies as “civilized,” but when that certain standard is no longer reached, barbarity becomes dominant. The streets of Chicago and San Francisco are probably more dangerous than an Amazonian jungle.

What other kinds of human behavior do we see today that qualify as “uncivilized”? Let me suggest a few examples.

1. Civilized beings do not kill their own offspring for pleasure or self-gratification. There are indeed some animals who do occasionally kill their offspring; a male bear, for example, might kill his own cubs to have sexual access to the female again. Quite frankly, this sounds a lot like abortion to me, at least in principle—the destruction of life for the carnal gratification and selfishness of the parent, in this case, the mother. We accept male bears doing this as simply part of their nature; they aren’t “civilized,” they are acting by instinct, and as a result, we cannot hold them morally responsible for their behavior. But that’s the point. The killing of one’s offspring is not “civilized” behavior, and in creatures who do (supposedly) have moral “sense” (humans), it becomes a reprehensible, uncivilized act. All the more because it is done deliberately and primarily for ultimate carnal gratification. A baby would be a nuisance; the procreation of the species, which is the ultimate purpose of the sexual act, is no longer in view. Pleasure is. This isn’t “civilization,” it is barbarity gone to seed.

2. The mutilation of children for sexual purposes is also a distinctly “uncivilized” act. As noted, some animals will kill their offspring. Perhaps there are some who mutilate their children in order to produce a creature they can eventually have sex with, but I know of no such creature—except humans. What the Left is doing to America’s children today is beneath barbarity. It is savagery in the basest meaning of the term. Civilized people do not mutilate their own children. Period. Anybody who believes that conduct is proper is as uncivilized as any creature can be, even below the most monstrous of animals.

3. Contrariwise, civilized people nurture and care for their children, educate and discipline them, and protect them from uncivilized predators. It is called “the family,” and it has been the foundation of every civilized society in history. The more a society destroys the nuclear family, the less “civilized” it becomes.

4. A civilized society knows the difference between males and females. Even animals do. Any society that doesn’t have descended beneath a jungle level. Nature cannot be destroyed, and civilization can be advanced.

5. A civilized society knows that all its collective parts should contribute to the well-being and advancement of that society. It will structure itself in such a way as to accomplish that. A civilized society does not encourage wanton, degraded, degenerate, slothful—or uncivilized—behavior. It isolates the animals inside it in order to protect its civilization.

6. The glorification of violence and sex in a society is uncivilized. These things appeal to the most squalid nature of man, his most carnal appetites, not his noblest. Uncontrolled lust and violence are characteristics of the lowest common denominator of humanity. Jungle instincts must be restrained, contained, and overcome for civilization to exist. Any society that refuses to do so will suffer dire consequences, as indeed we see in America today.

I could mention other matters pertaining to a “civilized” vs..... “uncivilized” society, but space is limited. It is evident to any wise, just observer that many parts of the United States today have descended into the jungle and are getting worse. And all at the behest and encouragement of those who should know better. It is critical to understand—and too many people do not—that left unchecked and unhindered, a jungle will overrun everything in its path. But when the jungle is the source of someone’s wealth and power, it is obviously in their best interest to let it grow and flourish.

Hence, the Democratic Party in America.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; civilzation; democrat; democrats; usdecline
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Good read.
1 posted on 09/03/2023 7:42:07 PM PDT by lightman
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To: Carriage Hill

Ping for future use.


2 posted on 09/03/2023 7:43:56 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg&ab_channel=GunsNRosesVEVO


3 posted on 09/03/2023 7:45:49 PM PDT by algore
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To: lightman

“The streets of Chicago and San Francisco are probably more dangerous than an Amazonian jungle.”

And there are a least a dozen American cities with higher murder rates than Chicago and dozens with higher murder rates than San Francisco.


4 posted on 09/03/2023 7:52:39 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: lightman

Don’t expect civilization from a nation whose poorest people are the most obese.

Freegards


5 posted on 09/03/2023 7:53:47 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Round Earther

Generational drug ferals’

Thanks govt media - schools

Zombies


6 posted on 09/03/2023 7:57:51 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: lightman
Are the inner cities of most Democratic Party-controlled metropolises “civilized”?

Hell no! Last week there was a murder in DC that started in a fight over McDonald'/s hot-and-sour sauce. Is that civilized?!

7 posted on 09/03/2023 7:58:13 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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To: lightman
China went through a weak period but they're back up now.

England is now in decline and lost their empire. But they're still around.

Not sure about America. It may be more like the Roman Empire.

8 posted on 09/03/2023 7:59:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: lightman
Degringolade, baby.
9 posted on 09/03/2023 8:07:44 PM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: lightman

Just got back from several days in Portland. Throngs of drugged out, mentally ill homeless, LGBT everywhere, open drug use all over the place…. Never saw a single cop other than at the airport. Couldn’t wait to get out of there. Terrible place.


10 posted on 09/03/2023 8:18:34 PM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Firehath

“Zombies”

But as long as they can still use a stick to get ants out of a log ...
all cultures are equal.... my @$$


11 posted on 09/03/2023 8:21:49 PM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: lightman
But when the jungle is the source of someone’s wealth and power, it is obviously in their best interest to let it grow and flourish. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

True up to the point when people act to defend themselves and their property, then the wealthy and powerful are just skin bags full of red meat like everybody else.



12 posted on 09/03/2023 8:21:59 PM PDT by Candor7 (( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: lightman

Thank you for posting this, as it is a good summary of how far we have fallen, and how close to total social breakdown we just might be.


13 posted on 09/03/2023 8:22:09 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: Levy78

I have never been there….wondering if you saw a big change over previous visits.

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14 posted on 09/03/2023 8:22:25 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: Mears

Actually my first time. Went for a wedding.


15 posted on 09/03/2023 8:28:21 PM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Levy78

Thanks..

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16 posted on 09/03/2023 8:41:27 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: lightman

American civilization declined when we stupidly decided to allow mass non western immigration - you can’t call yourself a western country when you are filled with people named Chang, Muhammad, or Ramaswamy.


17 posted on 09/03/2023 8:48:52 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Rummyfan

When a Democrat promises to build a Great Society, you know you’re in for trouble.


18 posted on 09/03/2023 9:37:55 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Clemenza

What’s your definition of Western countries?

Be careful. Many people might call your comment racist.

I get the association you made: Chang (China), Muhammad (Muslim), and Ramaswamy (Indian).

There are brilliant and “civilized” people from all over the world who have come to America and contributed greatly to our nation. Including from the countries you implied.


19 posted on 09/03/2023 10:15:22 PM PDT by poconopundit (Kayleigh the Shillelagh, I'm disappointed in you....)
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To: lightman
It's an increasingly-Godless society - that explains a good number of the behaviors, from theft, to abortion, to promoting LGBTQ+, etc.

A Godless society is a necessary precursor to the Globalist New World Order of Daniel 7:23, and the arrivals of Satan's Antichrist "political messiah" and Satan's False Prophet "religious leader".

Lurkers, please click on my screen name to see my homepage for additional information.


20 posted on 09/04/2023 1:25:07 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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