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There Is No Choice Left: Russia Will Have To Launch A Nuclear Strike On Europe
RIA Novosti Russia ^ | 6/25/2023 | Sergey Karaganov

Posted on 06/25/2023 11:06:35 PM PDT by Nextrush

For seventy-five years of mutual deterrence, nuclear weapons have saved the world, and people just got used to it. Now we see with our own eyes that nuclear weapons no longer stop, because the unthinkable is happening: the West has unleashed a big war in the underbelly of a great nucler power...

At some point, we also calmed down, went in line with Western theories and recklessly raised the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons, which the West is now using for a reason. There all the time, semi-officials emphasize: no, the Russians will never use nuclear weapons. They want us not to even raise this question under any circumstances, as if clearing the way for them for an endless war in Ukraine. But given that their military-industrial potential is higher than ours, they just want to wear us out...

I want to believe that our opponents will come to their senses. Because if not, then the military-political leadership of Russia will face a terrible moral choice and the need to make a difficult decision. But I believe that our president must at some point project his determination to use nuclear weapons...

the use of nuclear weapons is a monstrous step, it should be avoided if possible. But, as the vector of the West, its elites and society, their movement towards anti-human and post-human values shows, all this indicates and objective approach to a big thermonuclear war. We must interrupt this process and thus save the world- if possible, of course, avoiding super-tough actions...

(Excerpt) Read more at ria.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: bidenswar; bogusnonsense; canuckconservative; china; dramaqueenbrigade; emptythreats; neocons4war; neoconsarefools; nuclearweapons; nukerussia; omgomgomg; putinsdramaqueens; russia; russiadelendaest; sanctionseffective; sergeykaraganov; ukrainewar
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To: Socon-Econ

The author suggests saving the world from such stuff by nuking Europe.


121 posted on 06/26/2023 7:17:18 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Cronos

Just the liberal BLM, LGBTQ supporting social justice warrior ones.


122 posted on 06/26/2023 7:28:50 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Rockingham

So many people here assume that the next ruler of russia will be better than putin. There are many there who think a first strike on the US is the way to go. Putin hasn’t been forceful enough in his dealings with the west.


123 posted on 06/26/2023 7:31:46 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Robert357

Sherwin Williams & Benjamin Moore could bring back LEAD PAINT!

Never let a crisis go to waste.

(S)


124 posted on 06/26/2023 7:46:22 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Cronos

They have ours they took and Chinese ones too. No, they can do lots of really mean stuff without nukes. How about smallpox now that we stopped giving shots to students in school? Easy to find in 3rd world and easy to spread and made to look like an “accident”. Lots of Other Accidents” could just happen—like at a nuke plant?


125 posted on 06/26/2023 8:10:28 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Cronos
nah, Kiryl — Putin’s coterie ARE deep-state (KGB), war-mongering (Georgia ‘08, Ukraine ‘14, Ukraine ‘22) imperialists.

US imperialism:

Syria (2017 to date)
Kuwait '17
Iraq '16
Yemen '16
Libya '11
Haiti '04
Iraq '03
Afghanistan '01
Serbia '99
Somalia '95
Bosnia '94
Haiti '93
Iraq '91
Panama '89
and on and on and on...

126 posted on 06/26/2023 8:10:47 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Russia is a lot smarter than that and he has more tools to use against the west that nukes.

The US and the West in general are weak, by design. Whose design? Who knows. But Putin could easily exploit that to shut down the West. I'd say, for example, that he could, with just a little prodding, get the USA in a state of civil war within a few years or less. Since the globohomo dirtbags now running our government seem to want that anyway, it shouldn't be much of a task. He might avoid that, however, because then WE become the unstable failed state with a huge nuclear arsenal
127 posted on 06/26/2023 8:15:52 AM PDT by fr_freak (Such a foul sky clears not without a storm.)
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To: Cronos

The Department of State and Ms Nuland say they ran a successful Color Revolution and picked Zelensky.

Let’s call it a Coup.


128 posted on 06/26/2023 8:20:23 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Robert357

Depends on if Russia uses Poseidon torpedos which are salted with cobalt...


129 posted on 06/26/2023 8:22:06 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: kiryandil

That’s not imperialism - the USA didn’t go in to conquer territory.

Your President Putin’s Russia is imperialistic
1. Destroying Chechnya to the ground to keep it part of the imperium - but after failing, then bribing Kadyrov to stay
2. Conquering South Ossetia from Georgia in 2008
3. Conquering Crimea and de-facto the Donetsk People’s Republic and Luhansk People’s Republic from Ukraine in 2014
4. Attempting to create a vassal conquered state of Ukraine in Feb 2022


130 posted on 06/26/2023 8:35:21 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Jumper
The Department of State and Ms Nuland say they ran a successful Color Revolution and picked Zelensky.

Perhaps you ought to read before typing rot?

2014 to 2019 there was Poroshenko

In the 2019 elections Zelensky was elected -- are you saying that the 2019 election was played by the US DoS?

131 posted on 06/26/2023 8:39:58 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Violating national sovereignty without a by-your-leave.

Same thing, Timebot.

132 posted on 06/26/2023 8:41:42 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: jpsb

You are delusional. But keep trying


133 posted on 06/26/2023 8:43:03 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Cronos

Sorry your little 24 hour high over the Prigosurrection is over, Timebot.


134 posted on 06/26/2023 8:43:33 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Nah, Prigo showed that your President Putin is a putz.

Prigo walked into Rostov and Voronezh with no pushback.

That is clear enough to show you that Prigo’s putsch is hardly over


135 posted on 06/26/2023 8:47:55 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: kiryandil

Your President Putin’s Russia is imperialistic, violating national sovereignty :

1. Destroying Chechnya to the ground to keep it part of the imperium - but after failing, then bribing Kadyrov to stay
2. Conquering South Ossetia from Georgia in 2008
3. Conquering Crimea and de-facto the Donetsk People’s Republic and Luhansk People’s Republic from Ukraine in 2014
4. Attempting to create a vassal conquered state of Ukraine in Feb 2022


136 posted on 06/26/2023 8:48:35 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

The West keeps feeding the war with its resources it is patently obvious the West wants to bring down Russia.

Japan had the sanctions put on it over the war in China back in 1941.

Japan made its fateful decision.


137 posted on 06/26/2023 9:26:26 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: canuck_conservative

yeah...you kinda do. You just don’t realize or accept. You are all wrapped u in their narrative


138 posted on 06/26/2023 9:27:48 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Cronos

Nope. If you’ve been following corrupt western world/NATO actions...


139 posted on 06/26/2023 9:28:46 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Cronos; JonPreston
That is clear enough to show you that Prigo’s putsch is hardly over

Check out the Timebot, Jon.

He's still typing one-handed.   

140 posted on 06/26/2023 9:33:39 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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