Posted on 09/27/2022 4:02:42 PM PDT by JonPreston
All four regions have said their word; they voted overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia.
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The KGB boy uses lots of “independent” journalists. You are so naive.
And liars are outed every day by those independent journalists that you assert are “KGB boys” cause they outed you. Troll.
Troll? You’re projecting. You must be a paid whore for Moscow talking points. You’ve never disagreed with any of them.
Actually, it was not the independent journalist that exposed you for what you are, a liar who sadly had to then bring his wife into it....it was the very people to whom the independent journalist interviewed who ultimately confirmed that you are indeed a liar..... DU reject troll.
You’re writing is not making any sense. Ask your bosses for better scripts. It must really stink cheering for the bully eleven-time-zone country and then see it whipped by the one-time-zone country. Ukrainians fight for freedom while you Russians/mercs fight for money and how many pre-pubescent boys you can rape.
It don’t make sense to you cause you were outed, exposed as being a straight up l-i-a-r. Nuff said.
Exposed as a liar? ... Not at all. But little anonymous Cranked has been exposed as a Moscow stooge and a pedophile enabler.
"I am not well spoken, I don't write well so I bet I don't impress many here on FR. I tend to be more the class clown than the class brain..."
True
"I am still single and there is a LONG story behind that, which I won't share publicly."
What exactly is wrong with you? You sound like a teenage girl writing in her diary.
Linking to George Galloway is like licking the floor around the toilet and the fact that a Freeper would link to the unreconstructed supporter of Josef Stalin makes me literally sick. My grandfather belongs to an ethnic group that is nearly extinct, except a few in diaspora around the Hudson and Thames (Connecticut, not England) river valleys, because after WWII, Belgrade anaihilated the entire population. You don’t hear about the genocide because when a genocide is successful, there’s no-one left to complain.
Neither Pres. Bush nor Europe ever argued that any state could declare its independence any time it wanted to.
I actually believe that Crimea’s secession from Ukraine was justifiable, and perhaps even Donetsk’s and Luhansk’s. The neo-Soviets make a mockery of the cause of self-determination, however, when they demand the right to seize Kherson, Zaporizhzhia and Kharkiv. And make no mistake: had the tanks rolling into Kiev not been thwarted, Russia would today be insisting that the 99% of the whole of Ukraine wants desperately to be re-united with the Stalinist forces who murdered 20 million of their parents, grandparents, uncle, grand-uncles, aunts and grand-aunts.
Crimea was never part of Ukraine until Kruschev redrew the lines to water down the Ukrainian majority of Ukraine with Russians. The Donbas was largely unsettled until Russian miners migrated into the area. But the notion that anyone else in Ukraine could ever want to live under Russia... well, you have to be wholly under the sway of the propaganda of Josef Stalin and his minions at the New York Times to believe that.
>> Oh for crying out loud.....are there any elections not corrupted? Sheesh! <<
Yes, but I’m sure you don’t welcome China bombing the crap out of Dallas and Boise to fix our corruption problems.
>> I don’t know, I believe the USSR ended years ago. Otherwise Ukraine would still be part of it. <<
Ding Ding Ding! You win the prize! You correctly understood the difference between “Russian” and “Soviet Union”! Now, if Russia militarily takes back Ukraine, that makes it.... SOVIET!
Seriously, Yeltsin and Medvedev may have had their flaws. (In Yeltsin’s case, WOW were they huge), but they weren’t Soviets. But Putin’s speeches have always shown that he knows nothing of the world except for what the Soviet Propagandists taught him. The serf-brain really seems to believe the NY Times-Stalin propaganda about Holomodor!
But Ukraine was part of Russia under the Czars.
Wouldn’t happen.
>> Wouldn’t happen. <<
Of course not. It’s an analogy.
>> But Ukraine was part of Russia under the Czars. <<
True. Or at least much of it. And almost all of it by the time of Czar Nicholas. It’s offensive, of course, to refer to Ukrainians as Russian or Polish, rather than as Ukrainian, but for most of its history, it was split between Russia and Poland. “Ukrainian” is basically a dialect of the same language as “Polish.”
no, maybe they should vote on it like eastern Ukraine did. Maybe Idaho and Texas should vote on becoming autonomous.
"It would be very easy for Russia to “withdraw” from all contested rural areas of Kherson and Mikolaiv oblasts on the north side of the river (which aren’t densely populated and would require a manufactured border to maintain), then draw a border from Vasylivka to Ternuvate in Zaporizhzhia."
Just thought it worth revisiting because several sources over the last 48 hours have suggested that the TWO highlighted parts of my theory are actually happening at this very minute.
https://www.ukrinform.net/.....state-border-in-zaporizhzhia-region.html
There's also speculation that this is because Ukraine is expected to launch attacks south from there, and the retreat from Kherson will go south of the river to repel the attack if it comes from Zaporizhzhia city.
This could explain the rapid gains on the north side but it could also mean that the Duma, having agreed in principle to the annexation, is hedging its bets on maybe partitioning the westmost two Oblasts - it can't hold the cities on the north side and it has insufficient power to attack Zaporizhzhia City.
I don't think Ukraine would accept that, but short of committing to full city destruction using aerial bombardment (HE, thermobarics, or tactical nukes) it just isn't possible for Russia to take those cities over. Maybe next spring, if they can regroup and field a far bigger assault, but can their current, worn out troops manage it over winter? Not a chance.
And, of course, there's that rapid retreat and unexpected rapid gains on the north side - Russian forces could be out and south of Kherson within a week.
“And, of course, there’s that rapid retreat and unexpected rapid gains on the north side - Russian forces could be out and south of Kherson within a week.”
I can see them falling back to Crimea; because, after all, Crimea is Russia’s “jewel in the crown” vis-a-vis Ukraine. I can see Russia giving up Donbas, and eastern Ukraine, and making its stand in Crimea.
Greeting Ukrainian defenders in a liberated village: “Why did it take you so long?”
1- https://twitter.com/i/status/1577380030707007488
2- https://twitter.com/i/status/1577361408039260160
Present:
The main thing for the fourth of October (223rd day of the war)
▫️ The APU is crowding the Russian army. In a week, Ukraine has established control over four thousand square kilometers in the Kharkiv, Donetsk, Luhansk and Kherson regions.
Only today Lyubimovka, Khreshchenovka, Zolotaya Balka, Belyaevka, Ukrainka, Malaya and Bolshaya Alexandrovka and Davydov Ford have been liberated in the Kherson region. The Russian army retreated 30 kilometers to the south along the bank of the Dnieper.
There is not much information about Dudchans yet. Judging by the Russian maps, the front line begins right behind him. Judging by the observations, the Russians could have been thrown even further south.
Russian Defense Minister Shoigu says that 200 thousand Russians have been mobilized. The Minister of Internal Affairs of Kazakhstan says that 200 thousand Russians have entered. The magic of numbers.
A little later, Forbes sources in the highest Russian authorities said that from 700 thousand to a million Russians had left the country since the beginning of the mobilization. This is quite a lot, and if people from the presidential administration share this number, they do it for a reason, but perhaps hinting at future changes in the degree of permeability of the border to the outside.
The defender of Azovstal, Mikhail Dianov, who returned to Ukraine, told about the tortures in Russian captivity: they were beaten with butts and batons, starved, used electricity, did not provide medical care.
Vladimir Zelensky signed a decree recognizing everything adopted in Russia regarding the territories of Ukraine in recent days as null and void. This is a technical document that eliminates possible legal conflicts, but the name sounds nice.
For example, today’s vote in the Federation Council on annexation is also recognized by the Ukrainian authorities as null and void.
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