Posted on 08/25/2022 8:40:46 AM PDT by TBP
There’s a warning for Republicans in the defeat of Marc Molinaro in Tuesday night’s special election in New York’s 19th Congressional District, but also hope.
It was a tiny turnout across the board but especially for the Trump base — rural and working-class, non-college-educated white voters — who stayed home, while Democratic women without much else to vote for are newly energized by abortion, as we have seen in each of the four US House special elections since the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision in June overturning Roe v. Wade.
But that does not mean Democrats will be riding a Dobbs backlash to victory in the midterms, to paraphrase a hopeful New York magazine headline — as long as the GOP gets its act together.
Voters aren’t stupid, and if you wanted to send the Republican Party a message that it has to wake up and start fighting for the country, NY19 was a safe way to do it.
The special election changes nothing in the House, since Ryan will just squat for a few weeks in the Dem seat vacated by Antonio Delgado when he became lieutenant governor.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Messsaging determines turnout, but a lot mor epeople vote in November than special elections or primaries -- but the Republicans had best be aware of the danger to them.
LMAO NY slimes finds a non trump endorsed republican in NY and finds it a bellwether for all republicans.
“Concern trolls will always be concerned.” OR “Ya, let’s take advice from the state propaganda organ, that will work out well.”
I laugh at these NY Republicans who, for some reason, treat Marc Molinaro as if he’s a good candidate for anything.
He sucked as a gubernatorial candidate, and sucked as a Congressional candidate.
I’ve seen few GOP candidates who are as technocratic & dull as Molinaro.
The warning signs have been there forever- keep offering up piss poor RINO’s like Molinaro, who admitted he did not vote for Trump in 2016, and no conservative will be interested in coming out to vote.
But they won’t pay attention.
Republicans stayed home. Great. Did that in Georgia as well January 2021. If republicans don’t show up and the house stays democrat and the senate gains two seats, say goodbye to the filibuster and hello to a lot of awful bills. Want to stay home republicans? Don’t!
New York is not the USA it’s a declining Northeastern state further down the chute than Pennsylvania where I live.
COVID drove good people out of NYS I’m sure to find a better life somewhere else.
The economy drives and abortion animates less as I see it.
Here in York County, PA the abortion protests held after the Supreme Court decision less well attended by far than Tea Party rallies way back 10-15 years ago.
Planned Parenthood is lying about Republicans wanting to ban abortions nationwide.
The Supreme Court created a framework in its decision for each state to make it’s own decision about abortion.
The court’s decision gave us a chance to “Get Along With Each Other” and “Live And Let Live” on abortion.
That’s what it really meant not what Planned Parenthood says.
All PP wants is for Democrats to win and they will lie as much as they have to so they can achieve that goal.
There were 4 recent special elections. Democrats turned out unexpectedly strong in all 4. It’s not an isolated case as you want to rationalize it.
The problem is that McCarthy is practicing quiet quiting.
I wouldn’t be so cocky. This is a definite warning sign when Repubs should be easily winning every race due to the tide in their favor. There’s going to be massive, massive fraud in these elections and we need to do everything we can to stop it. If we don’t stop it now and get Maga repubs elected this year, then Trump will have no chance to get elected or even to pass anything if he does get elected.
Do repubs have an organized vote harvesting team? The dems certainly do.
NY 19 is not a bellwether. It just isn’t, unless your name is Mitch McConnell. Here is their IDEAL type of candidate.
Anti-Trump (really anti-MAGA)- Check
Moderate. - Check
Establishment. -Check
Bi-Partisan - Check
And he loses.
Worse though is that they will blame this on Trump. Why is it that the moderate types always lose (he asked rhetorically). Is it because they spend their time apologizing for their supporters stance on the ISSUES?
” Gee I am sorry about not wanting our jobs exported. Gee, I am sorry about those deplorables not wanting to support open borders. I am so sorry about “those” people. Since I apologized, I don’t need them cause you dems will vote for me now, am I right?”
And then, when said deplorables don’t show up to vote? Oh no, the dems vote dem. Well look here, a loss.
But hey, the GOP is in trouble because of Trump of something.
Miranda Devine is pro MAGA. She wrote a book exposing Hunter Biden’s laptop. You are attacking your own side. This is why we’re losing.
Bbbbut we have our principles/s
“LMAO NY slimes”
You clearly didn’t read the article, it is the NY Post. Do you really expect to have an informed opinion by just reading the FR comments? It can’t get more myopic.
Little ‘Miranda’ has GOT to be kidding... Sheesh...
The GOP “leadership” is purposely throwing this election to the Democrats. We will probably still win the House but it will be a closer run thing than it needs to be. We will not win the Senate.
This is to allow the “leadership” to say ‘we tried MAGA, it didn’t work.” “...the voters rejected it.” They will then try to reinstall the old RINO Bush/Cheney/McCain/Romney leadership.
How conservative voters will respond to this blatant betrayal of members is yet to be seen. If 2020 is any indication, we will do nothing and say less...
Quote: “There were 4 recent special elections. Democrats turned out unexpectedly strong in all 4. It’s not an isolated case as you want to rationalize it.”
How did the democrats do? Were they 4-0?
Alaska was a case of two GOP candidates splitting a vote.
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