Posted on 07/02/2022 9:51:25 AM PDT by aimhigh
In response to last week’s Supreme Court ruling that removed the requirement for “proper cause” when seeking out a concealed carry permit, New York has made a bold move to lay down a number of additional requirements and rules surrounding the permitting process, and carrying firearms.
Places that will be off-limits (some are currently banned places) when the new laws take effect September 1st 2022 are:
schools
universities
government buildings
places where people have gathered for public protests
health care facilities
places of worship
libraries
public playgrounds and parks
day care centers
summer camps
addiction and mental health centers
shelters
public transit
times square
bars
theaters
stadiums
museums
polling places
casinos
In addition, the law defaults all private property as no-carry zones, unless the owner of that property has signage up allowing the carrying of concealed firearms.
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But I agree with your sentiment. They do not intend to stop and places like DC and New York intend to inflict their agenda on normal states. We all know it’s coming someday…
That very well could be.
Texas band or has banned the concealed carry in these places.
schools - banned state jail felony
universities << recently unbanned only specific areas banned now.
government buildings - banned class A misdemeanor one year jail time
places where people have gathered for public protests- not banned
health care facilities -banned class A
places of worship<< recently unbanned
libraries - banned class A misdemeanor
public playgrounds and parks -never banned
Amendment parks- banned class A misdemeanor
day care centers - various up to individual owners if banned class A misdemeanor
summer camps - individuals owner of banned class A misdemeanor
addiction and mental health centers - banned class A misdemeanor
shelters - up to the city of banned class A misdemeanor
public transit - banned class A misdemeanor
bars banned state jail felony 10 year minimum sentencing
theaters- recently unbanned up to individual owners if banned class A misdemeanor.
stadiums- banned and metal detectors
museums - up to individual owners if banned class A misdemeanor
polling places- banned state jail felony
casinos- would be banned if we had them at the state jail felony level.
This below also applies in Texas and has for well over a decade.
“In addition, the law defaults all private property as no-carry zones, unless the owner of that property has signage up allowing the carrying of concealed firearms.”
Out signage is 30.05,30.06 & 30.07
30.06 makes it a class A misdemeanor to conceal carry on that property owners land ,home or business. Two charges one is criminal trespass by a handgun holder the other is the gun charge both are class A misdemeanors. 30.07 bans open carry on land,home or business but allows for concealed carry. You usually see both a 30.06 and 30.07 together. The other sign is the red 51% TABC warning that it is a state jail felony to carry where alcohol is sold and served on premise. The 30.05 is new as of September 2021 Texas went constitutional carry the 30.05 sign allows for the business or land owner to prohibit constitutional carry and require the holding of the Texas LTC licence to conceal carry on that property I have seen that sign a few times but the 30.07 is by far the most common. These restrictions are in deep red Texas and they have the full blessing of the deep red Texas Supreme Court as they have been in place for decades.
Criminals now have a long list of areas they can work in. Gun-free, but not criminal-free. Escape from New York.
........the US Supreme Court held a sheriff and some of his deputies in contempt for allowing a mob to hang an inmate.
This case was the U.S. vs Shipp in 1906. It was the last time SCOTUS held anyone in contempt. A trial was held involving Sheriff Joseph F. Shipp and 5 of his deputies. All were found guilty (on Contempt charges) and sentenced to imprisonment for hanging Ed Johnson. All involved were from Tennessee.
The in person place interview requirements can’t be allowed to stand. Now can’t the “good moral character” requirement. They only need to find that no one is of good moral character, which is 100% subjective, no allow no one a permit.
I applied for a NY state gun permit in not a huge city and tge agent told me he’ll be happy to take my materials, but that it would take 18-24 months. Add in thousands of applicants and I can warily see it taking 4 years for a rejection.
FOUR character references from NY state residents? I had only lived there for 9 months and worked a ton. When did I have time to find friends?
This is no more than a distinction without a difference: Precious few will actually get them.
Typical Democrat chicanery, they always desperately try to obstruct anything they don’t like even though they know they will lose in the end. An ugly bunch of people.
Delaying the inevitable.
Left already has their lists.
This includes the New York State Capitol in Albany.
To be frank, Texas kinda sucks on gun rights. Needs a big kick in the rear from the USSC.
Now ya did it!
It’s true. It’s in the middle range. A lot of it is left to the DA to decide what’s ‘ok’ or ‘not’ for defense, no real self defense doctrine.
I wouldn’t bother to get a permit if I lived in NY. You would just be putting yourself on a Democrat enemies list.
Just carry concealed like the criminals do. They never seem to get into much trouble, even if they kill someone. Besides, if you ever do need to pull and shoot. The permit won’t matter.
Quit using sweeping. Start using “tyrannical.”
If you ever did have to defend yourself, the prosecutor would probably claim that having a permit was evidence of premeditation.
Voting the idiots out of office is probably a good start. The people wanted it bad and got it worse.
It’s about the revolution. It’s only about the revolution.
My thought is that this effort is a test of what the second amendment actually says.
The amendment says “the people have the right” but says nothing about places. Although not a lawer and never played one on TV, I ask does the law infringe the right since it deals with places?
My guess is that the right exists everywhere, in all places . However, lawyer’s fees are earned on an hourly basis and there will be a lot of lawer hours involved in this effort.
Immediate injunctive relief is needed
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Maybe this will lead to a 6-3 or 5-4 decision saying that the right to carry and self-defense ‘shall not be infringed’ anywhere. Maybe NY could go 0-2 in their action against the 2nd amendment.
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