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The Electric Vehicle Scam
Americaoutloud ^ | Jan 15, 2022 | | Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris |

Posted on 01/16/2022 9:44:54 AM PST by Hojczyk

In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?

ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:

“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”

The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.

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To: cgbg

I’m planning to, but I’ll let others be the earlier adopters on that.

Wouldn’t want to be rude and cut in line ahead of the millionaires and billionaires who want to go.


221 posted on 01/16/2022 4:13:23 PM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: minnesota_bound

Never saw a pic with the cables stretched out. So the connectors can be dropped on the ground. In the USAF I was used to dealing with power cables all the time. The connectors would get damaged by use from people not watching what they were doing. Had to replace them constantly way ahead of their time. They were also rubber. Idiot proofed them some.


222 posted on 01/16/2022 4:20:41 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Texan5
My boss has a Leaf. He also haas a Kia crossover and a big-block 4wd Yukon. Seeing him drive the Leaf to work every day, even what he uses it for has drawbacks. He has to dress in his parka, hat and gloves in the winter, and when we go to lunch during the summer, he rolls the windows down.

In Georgia.

You can't drive a car in GA in the rain without having the AC/DEF on. You can't, unless you're a masochist, or trying to prove a point, drive a car in GA in the summer, without AC. I don't want 2 or 3 cars. I want one that does everything I might need it to do.

I'm not a bleeding edge early adopter. Either EV technology will advance to the point that it has all the advantages, or it won't. Consumer choice is a freedom-based value. Posters who seem to have a problem with that are trolls.

223 posted on 01/16/2022 4:31:10 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Jacquerie

Well, that’s the thing. If one can’t see the plan, that the Feds will use environmental rules to limit the access/availability/affordability of gasoline, and manage the future availablity of EV-charging, to control free travel, they are an idiot.


224 posted on 01/16/2022 4:39:57 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: setter

So it’s vaporware right now.


225 posted on 01/16/2022 4:41:30 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: setter

The Federal government litigated against consumer choice for long-distance phone service, and cellular phones. It’s alway prudent to consider that you don’t know what you don’t know. Others might give your opinions more value.


226 posted on 01/16/2022 4:49:24 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Copper thieves would be very happy for all the cables laying around.

In my apartment the parking lot needs to be resurfaced but that ain’t happening. They do not even line up the concrete tire blocks in the space the car parks in. I cannot see more power lines being run thru-out the valley and city and country and everyone being forced to have to pay the big expense to install a charger then have to pay the very high electric rate.

California charges approx 20 cents a KW now which is nearly double than most places in the country. Plus watch their car and/or home burn to the ground when something shorts.

You read about “Fast” chargers. This is like “Lite rail” or “urban housing” “Low cost” or any other gov’t euphemisms.
It is the opposite of their meaning. Your car insurance will go sky high as any damaged electric vehicle will be a total writeoff.

Waiting for an hour and a half and more.
Imagine it cold and snowing or raining.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d6/84/3a/d6843a60bb3b9e78ca2bcf63667fac50.jpg

Now the battery dies and you call into work saying I will be late as I have to come up with $20,000 or more for a new battery. I should be into work when my 10 year loan comes thru.


227 posted on 01/16/2022 4:52:05 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: ctdonath2

My boss charges his Leaf at work all the time. He lives 6 miles away.


228 posted on 01/16/2022 4:54:11 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

From Part I of this series:

The Biden administration may be evil as it relates to virtually all of its new directives but, no matter what it appears to be, it is not dumb. It knows what it is doing.

The underlying purpose of everything it does is to reduce our freedoms and increase the government’s control over our lives.

One of its strategies has escaped even the most conservative of thinkers. It is the promotion of the electric automobile.

They well know that the nation’s roads can never be crowded with electric cars. There is not now, nor ever will there be, sufficient electric power for us to travel hither and yon with battery-powered vehicles.

So, who decides who gets what electricity will be available? Answer: your friendly liberal, “progressive,” leftist government who we, mistakenly or not, placed in power.


229 posted on 01/16/2022 4:55:23 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: setter
Tesla sold 450k ev’s in 2020 and 900k in 2021 and could have sold 200k more but supply chain issues held them back.

220,000 pre orders for the new F150 lightning

Porsche sold more EV’s than gas in 2021.

No one is forcing people to EV’s. They want them Jim.

Then what in the hell is your point?

230 posted on 01/16/2022 4:56:34 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: BobL; setter
BOOM! Der it is!

Also see Reality vis-a-vis Energy and the Economy

231 posted on 01/16/2022 5:04:58 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: setter
are working on similar goals.

If man were meant to fly he would have feathers-:)

232 posted on 01/16/2022 5:10:29 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Hojczyk

I well remember threads here on Free Republic trash talking hybrid automobiles.

Fast forward 20 years and now the threads are all about EV’s and how worthless they are.

Somethings never change. Wrong then. Wrong now.


233 posted on 01/16/2022 5:18:25 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“The Federal government litigated against consumer choice for long-distance phone service, and cellular phones. It’s alway prudent to consider that you don’t know what you don’t know”

Huh? What??

Ma Bell/AT&t was your only choice of phone service in the US for much of our early history. One company. One rate.

IN mid 1974 an early MCI won their lawsuit against Ma Bell and broke up part of Ma Bell in the South East enabling other phone companies to get involved and break up the other 6 Bells across the rest of the country. The US filed anti trust laws against Ma Bell breaking in 1974 leading to the breakup of Ma Bell.

The Telecommunications Act of 1996(by the Federal gov’t) further deregulated the phone companies and opened up more competition among phone companies and cellular service to what we know today.

https://www.directenergy.com/learning-center/history-of-deregulation-telecommunication


234 posted on 01/16/2022 5:18:46 PM PST by setter
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To: dinodino

You don’t understand thermodynamics and energy losses at each step of the process do you?


235 posted on 01/16/2022 5:28:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Jim Noble
Is the town out of hookers?

30 minutes?

236 posted on 01/16/2022 5:29:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: setter

Lot of Fed (FCC) interference between The breakup of ATT and 1996.


237 posted on 01/16/2022 5:29:52 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: setter

Why do you think the rest of the world had cheap cellular before we did?


238 posted on 01/16/2022 5:30:46 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: setter
Most EV charging station in the US are now at home and many are being put in at restaurants, grocery stores, hotels, malls, theme parks where people do their shopping while their car is being charged.

Will they get to be close to the door like handicapped parking?

239 posted on 01/16/2022 5:30:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: setter
Station casino in Las Vegas put in 30 chargers and is charging cars for FREE to attract customers to their casinos.

Uh; spelchek got SUCKERS wrong.

240 posted on 01/16/2022 5:32:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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