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The Electric Vehicle Scam
Americaoutloud ^ | Jan 15, 2022 | | Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris |

Posted on 01/16/2022 9:44:54 AM PST by Hojczyk

In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?

ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:

“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”

The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.

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To: rktman

“And cue the FR EV guys and gals.”

EV’s are fine commuter cars and you should charge them at home every night.

Period.

Beyond that gets pretty ridiculous.


141 posted on 01/16/2022 12:37:35 PM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
But I digress, what is the problem that your government is trying to solve by forcing you to purchase an EV?

I have no bone to pick with you, I'm neutral on the issue of EVs vs ICE. There are many problems with our government. One is, that they're hiding the issue that they want to get rid of private ownership of all vehicles; they're just focusing on ICE now. Even Elon Musk has stated that the government should not subsidize EVs, but Biden is hell-bent on doing so for GM and Ford while excluding Tesla. Biden is a hypocrite, subsidizing GM to build EVs while saying he is for "green" energy, which is plain BS. All this government interference with the market is just plain wrong. All it does is to wreak havoc with the free market and their R&D efforts.

142 posted on 01/16/2022 12:39:52 PM PST by roadcat
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To: pepsionice

I read at some stations, customers are plugging in and then go shopping/eat only to find out another EV owner has unplugged their connection. I find that hilarious.


143 posted on 01/16/2022 12:43:58 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Hojczyk

Fifty watt chargers?🙄


144 posted on 01/16/2022 12:44:55 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That sounds more like it.🤔


145 posted on 01/16/2022 12:45:30 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Mean Daddy
I read at some stations, customers are plugging in and then go shopping/eat only to find out another EV owner has unplugged their connection. I find that hilarious.

The nozzle can be locked in place. Only the owner and their key fob can release it (if the owner enables the locking, not to do so is lazy).

146 posted on 01/16/2022 12:46:48 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Hojczyk

The public is fat dumb and happy, and has no clue what the elimination of gas-powered vehicles means. It will be a very rude surprise: long wait times for charges, high prices for charges, high taxes to build the infrastructure needed for the chargers, high electricity prices all around, batteries that lose their charge progressively every day, ridiculously high cost for replacing battery packs, blackouts because they won’t build more power plants, and finally freezing to death on the highway in cars that ran out of power.

Just how will AAA service vehicles with drained batteries? Will AAA come around and give you a shot of electricity - enough to get you home? Even if that were possible it would take 20 minutes to give you that charge.

We’re heading for disaster, folks!

It’s not through incompetence. It’s all planned. Oh, and do you think the ruling elite is going to be in electric cars? No, they won’t be.


147 posted on 01/16/2022 12:48:54 PM PST by I want the USA back (Government is to be feared much more than the chicom virus.)
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To: Hojczyk

When they hitch their criminal rig to something they stick to it, solar electric cars, wind, climate change, pandemics.


148 posted on 01/16/2022 12:49:01 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: roadcat

Here’s something those who have EVgasms never bring up, human nature. Next few times at a gas station, look at the nozzles and notice how much damage they’ve taken over the years. In a perfect world those nozzles should look nearly new but there are plenty of incompetent drivers out there. I’ve came up to pumps where the nozzle was so worn and dinged I went to another pump.

How do they plan on idiot proofing charging stations? Seems to me they would be easy to mess up and not very tolerant of use by morons.


149 posted on 01/16/2022 12:50:49 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: I want the USA back

“blackouts because they won’t build more power plants, and finally freezing to death on the highway in cars that ran out of power.”

Please do some basic research on the ‘net.

177 new power plants are being built and most of the old coal plants are being extended to at least 2050.

A tesla heater last 72 hours on a full charge if left stranded.
I could counter every one of your comments.

I’m done trying to explain this stuff.

My last post.


150 posted on 01/16/2022 12:55:41 PM PST by setter
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
How do they plan on idiot proofing charging stations? Seems to me they would be easy to mess up and not very tolerant of use by morons.

I read that the newer BMW i3 models manufactured after March 2015 has the new firmware update to automatically unlock plug from charge port once it's 100% charged. Someone can't just pull the plug if charging, but can if no longer being charged. That's a good feature. You can't idiot proof anything, you stop one idiot and there is always another one around to ruin things.

151 posted on 01/16/2022 12:57:17 PM PST by roadcat
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To: ctdonath2

“...digital cameras, credit cards, voicemail, cellphones, email, and a myriad of new tech.” did not require substantial government subsidies and mandates to keep them afloat. They built a better mousetrap, and people wanted their product. EV’s selling point is manufactured guilt and government interference in free trade. Let EV companies stand on their own two feet and produce something consumers will flock to.


152 posted on 01/16/2022 12:57:28 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: setter

Government thumbs on the scale is evil—I know you don’t get that—hopefully someday you will figure out why it is.


153 posted on 01/16/2022 1:00:28 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Hojczyk

go total renewable energy by requiring charging stations to use solar and wind power independently instead of connecting them to the national electrical grid...

problem solved...


154 posted on 01/16/2022 1:01:51 PM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Sacajaweau

Hamsters running on wheels.🙄


155 posted on 01/16/2022 1:02:21 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: setter
Every item we use today from computers , appliances on down was subsidized or was given tax breaks by the US gov’t at one time or another. Every manufacturing process or nearly all was subsidized or helped by the US gov’t at one time or another and most still are from oil comapies to agriculture.

You really sound like you'd be more comfortable over at DU. Your buddy, Obama, said something similar - "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

Take your socialist crap somewhere else.

156 posted on 01/16/2022 1:03:50 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: Hojczyk

Elon Musk is a long con grifter who’s got rich(er) off the US Gummint’s illogical support of his grift.


157 posted on 01/16/2022 1:05:41 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: setter

You keep hyping “solid state” batteries but Wikipedia says there or issues with them and they still need lithium.


158 posted on 01/16/2022 1:05:55 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: roadcat

Point is a well worn or damaged gas nozzle can in most cases still be used. How about a worn or damaged EV charging cable?


159 posted on 01/16/2022 1:07:44 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Yogafist

“..digital cameras, credit cards, voicemail, cellphones, email, and a myriad of new tech.” did not require substantial government subsidies and mandates to keep them afloat.”

Every technological advance we have was subsidized by the US gov’t at one point or another.

Read Steve Jobs book. Most of the cell phone technology was subsidized or even invented by the US gov’t. Steve was smart enough to put it all together in one package.

The US gov’t is spending 52 billion dollars for subsidizing chip manufacturing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/06/14/global-subsidies-semiconductors-shortage/


160 posted on 01/16/2022 1:08:02 PM PST by setter
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