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SCOTUS Oral Argument Audio (Vaccine Mandates) LIVE THREAD [2nd case starts at reply 279]
SCOTUS ^ | 01/07/2022 | SCOTUS

Posted on 01/07/2022 6:16:44 AM PST by TexasGurl24

Two cases will be argued today beginning at 10.

National Federation of Independent Business v. Department of Labor (OSHA Mandate)

and Biden v. Missouri (Healthcare mandate)

Audio here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cms; covid; healthcare; ivermectin; mandates; osha; scotus; vaccine; wuhanflu
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To: TexasGurl24

Thank you for starting this thread. I’m trapped in a videoconference meeting with a member who has gone on and on and on.


301 posted on 01/07/2022 9:27:14 AM PST by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Thousands have been working without being vaccinated for almost two years. Emergency?? or Blackmail?


302 posted on 01/07/2022 9:27:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: ReaganGeneration2

OSHA is proposing the same rule on a permanent basis. The ETS was used to get a quick effective date.

But when this virus burns out, as all do, the reason for the rue burns out with it — the rule will remain, just the same.

This is the way government works. It is unreasonable imposition of pointless regulation in order to condition the public into submission to authority.

And they will justify this by “the public voted for this,” plus “it’s all right there in the constitution.”

Pray for them. They are bad people.


303 posted on 01/07/2022 9:27:54 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: TexasGurl24

I did lay out the specifics.

The decision will be 6-3 one way or another.


304 posted on 01/07/2022 9:30:51 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Cboldt
why are they splitting hairs between different types of health care centers?

is it constitutional or not? That's the only question that needs to be resolved.

305 posted on 01/07/2022 9:31:24 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Sacajaweau

Not only that but the shots don’t work anyway.


306 posted on 01/07/2022 9:36:58 AM PST by katieanna
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To: usconservative
-- ... is it constitutional or not? That's the only question that needs to be resolved. --

This is an attempt to define the "it" part, and presumed in there, with a suitable "it," the federal mandate is constitutional.

Incredible amount of policymaking going on in the court, including assessing how many people will quit their jobs.

307 posted on 01/07/2022 9:38:29 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Incredible amount of policymaking going on in the court, including assessing how many people will quit their jobs.

That's not their job, and of course you and they know that.

We're back to "it's a tax" .... un-freaking-believable.

308 posted on 01/07/2022 9:39:32 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: katieanna

Will VAERS statistics be considered or even mentioned?


309 posted on 01/07/2022 9:40:12 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Frank Drebin

The ONLY way that will EVER occur is through the business end of a rifle.


310 posted on 01/07/2022 9:49:07 AM PST by JME_FAN (MOLON LABE!)
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To: Cboldt

Social utility policy. They’ll find a way to uphold what they believe to be the most collectively, socially beneficial course of action. Individual liberty, liberty even at the expense of “the public good” (which is a separate argument in this case) doesn’t even factor into their thinking.


311 posted on 01/07/2022 9:50:42 AM PST by TheDandyMan
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To: TheDandyMan
It just became clear to me: The Biden mis-Administration and OSHA are colluding to kill as many people in flyover country as they can.

Small hospitals and healthcare facilities like those where I live will be hit hard. Emergency Surgeries & healthcare will be dramatically curtailed causing people to DIE.

That's exactly what these bastards want.

312 posted on 01/07/2022 9:53:36 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Jim Noble

Then why bother even making such? Seems to me an attempt to troll.


313 posted on 01/07/2022 9:53:39 AM PST by JME_FAN (MOLON LABE!)
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To: All

Dumb question, maybe somebody knows off hand and can save me research time:

Given the gravity and time sensitive nature of this decision, is this one of those cases for immediate resolution and ruling? Doesn’t make sense that they’d rule in the Sumer with all the rest.


314 posted on 01/07/2022 9:54:34 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Sacajaweau

As in all things government, our government only rewards failure. In that aspect, no greater example than this one is on full display. This vaccine is an absolute failure. That failure has only shown to reward and grow their scope and power. So in the halls of government there is no greater love of a mandated vaccine that provides no immunity, requires more government involvement, and may even spread the virus more. It’s a true success by government standards of largesse and an iron grip on the masses and industry.


315 posted on 01/07/2022 9:55:02 AM PST by blackdog (Jab Dodger. )
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To: JME_FAN

Can not agree more.

The kick off part is growing near.


316 posted on 01/07/2022 9:56:33 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: usconservative
That's not their job, and of course you and they know that.

Sadly, the Deep State has defined the role of the SCOTUS as the ultimate, unaccountable authority that makes the awful, tyrannical laws which Congress is afraid to vote on in public.

This diktat falls into that category. Never legislated. Never put to a vote. Merely imposed upon the people with no remedy or recourse.
317 posted on 01/07/2022 9:57:00 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: 1Old Pro

SCOTUS plans to rule relatively quickly. These arguments are occuring before the annual social-managing session is usually open.


318 posted on 01/07/2022 9:58:05 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: sanjuanbob
Yes. What will be said by a court that may have ordered injections of gene editing mayhem noticed only years later.

Well I suppose that would be a great way to hide results for say.... 75 years.

WAIT????

319 posted on 01/07/2022 9:58:47 AM PST by blackdog (Jab Dodger. )
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To: JME_FAN

Concur. Even our local GOP has a “leader” that are telling the precient leaders they CAN’T SPEAK during meetings. That NOBODY can speak during meetings. Like the school boards are doing. We are fighting back, of course.


320 posted on 01/07/2022 9:59:29 AM PST by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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