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SCOTUS Oral Argument Audio (Vaccine Mandates) LIVE THREAD [2nd case starts at reply 279]
SCOTUS ^ | 01/07/2022 | SCOTUS

Posted on 01/07/2022 6:16:44 AM PST by TexasGurl24

Two cases will be argued today beginning at 10.

National Federation of Independent Business v. Department of Labor (OSHA Mandate)

and Biden v. Missouri (Healthcare mandate)

Audio here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cms; covid; healthcare; ivermectin; mandates; osha; scotus; vaccine; wuhanflu
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To: Mygirlsmom

exactly. Once given the POWER to mandate you to be drugged, the floodgates are open.


181 posted on 01/07/2022 8:27:27 AM PST by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: TexasGurl24

Hey SCOTUS. We are FINE after our 7th BOOSTER!


182 posted on 01/07/2022 8:28:05 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: katieanna

THANK YOU JUSTICE ALITO. ALL THIS DARN HYPERBOLE IS ENOUGH. ‘GRAVE’ DANGER WITH A 99% SURVIVAL RATE IS JUST STUPID.


183 posted on 01/07/2022 8:28:26 AM PST by katieanna
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To: TexasGurl24

Well it sounds to me like the lawyers for OSHA are ticking off some of the Justices ....


184 posted on 01/07/2022 8:29:24 AM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: SecondAmendment

Flawed logic on the progression of the cases numbers.


185 posted on 01/07/2022 8:30:01 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: katieanna

did Byrer just say that 750,000 more people will get Covid if they wait another day to rule?


186 posted on 01/07/2022 8:30:16 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: Cboldt

Alito really threw a wrench into the discussion by asking whether a brief administrative stay would be appropriate. He makes a good point that if “people are dying every day”, then why did OSHA write the order such that there would be a several month delay before implementation.


187 posted on 01/07/2022 8:30:17 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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Breyer basically posits an argument that with a stay of the OSHA rule, 750,000 new cases a day. But if the rule goes into effect, the new cases per day drops to zero.

Yep. That’s his point of view, and if he is wrong, correct him.

Ruled by idiot tyrants. If you be ruled. Past time to be unruly ;-)


188 posted on 01/07/2022 8:31:29 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: janetjanet998

I think he did. He’s full of fear; even though I think it is 1 person in the whole world who has died OF omicron.


189 posted on 01/07/2022 8:32:23 AM PST by katieanna
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To: Cboldt

Good questions.

There are a lot of contradictions in the various late 1930s-early 1940s opinions upholding delegation of “All legislative Powers herein granted”, and those contradictions are up for exploitation now that the USSC is willing to hear delegation cases again.

Because assigning legislative powers to OSHA, or the EPA, is not the end of the matter. Congress writes a sloppy law and leaves it to the FCC to narrow and render comprehensible. But by now, the administrative laws are no easier to understand than the original goo, so the courts have to get involved, and what you end up with is “find me the man and I will find you the crime”.

Just to lay down a bet, I predict USSC will uphold the vaccine mandate 9-0. We shall see.


190 posted on 01/07/2022 8:32:55 AM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: katieanna

Soto mentions the Constitution FINALLY


191 posted on 01/07/2022 8:33:00 AM PST by katieanna
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To: katieanna

CoupFlu has NEVER been about public health.


192 posted on 01/07/2022 8:33:13 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: janetjanet998

that is what he said.
Facepalm.


193 posted on 01/07/2022 8:33:14 AM PST by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: AbolishCSEU

It would seem that OSHA could certainly issue physical conditioning requirements for jobs that required it — no?


194 posted on 01/07/2022 8:33:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: katieanna
"I think he did. He’s full of fear; even though I think it is 1 person in the whole world who has died OF omicron."

You weren't listening to the wise woman in the black robe then. Omicron is more deadly than Delta.

195 posted on 01/07/2022 8:33:37 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: katieanna

but says doesn’t know how it violates the Constitution.
Someone please EDUCATE her!


196 posted on 01/07/2022 8:34:12 AM PST by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

There is immense immediate harm !


197 posted on 01/07/2022 8:34:40 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Jim Noble

9-0? Surely you are not serious.


198 posted on 01/07/2022 8:34:42 AM PST by katieanna
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To: katieanna

Remember...She thinks killing babies is constitutional.


199 posted on 01/07/2022 8:34:50 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Jim Noble
-- I predict USSC will uphold the vaccine mandate 9-0. We shall see. --

I think 6-3 uphold. Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch against.

And if the emergency rule is upheld, so is the long-term rule.

200 posted on 01/07/2022 8:35:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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