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Rittenhouse Jury Asks About Videos; Judge: ‘My Nightmare Has Come True’
Breitbart ^ | 11/17/2021 | Joel B Pollack

Posted on 11/17/2021 10:29:58 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

The jury in the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse asked Judge Bruce Schroeder in the Kenosha County Court on Wednesday morning whether it should view video evidence in court or in private, prompting the judge to quip: “My nightmare has come true.”

The judge was referring to controversies over the video evidence presented by the prosecution during the trial, including whether zoomed-in images enhanced by artificial intelligence were admissible, and whether the prosecution withheld a higher resolution version of a video than the version that had been provided to the defense until the last day of the trial.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: banglist; fauxtography; judge; kylerittenhouse; nightmare; politicalprisoner; rittenhouse; showtrial; videos
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To: All

yes, handbrake (on the DA computer) can be used to compress video, such as has been done with the fuzzy drone video which was compressed 4 to 1.


161 posted on 11/17/2021 12:53:20 PM PST by SteveH (.)
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To: SteveH

They need to tell the prosecution to preserve all evidence as a civil suit against them is coming.


162 posted on 11/17/2021 12:54:55 PM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: ridesthemiles
If it goes to a retrial-—I see nothing wrong with the defense.

On many occasions, they have allowed the prosecutors to enter questionable evidence; sat silent when the prosecutors misstated the law; and seemed to have a lack of understanding of their own narrative of defense.

For example, the prosecutor stated many times that Rosenbaum was unarmed. Not once did the defense make it clear that if Rosenbaum had gotten the gun away from Rittenhouse, it would have been Kyle who was then unarmed. That is the core of self-defense. Yes, they said Rosenbaum was reaching for the gun, but it should be stated, out loud, why that is so dangerous. They had a self-defense expert on the witness list, but they allowed the state to effectively stifle his testimony. The guy was basically worthless.

163 posted on 11/17/2021 12:55:10 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: 1Old Pro

> They need to tell the prosecution to preserve all evidence as a civil suit against them is coming.

good tactic... but would they actually have the nerve to do it, that seems to be in some doubt at the moment


164 posted on 11/17/2021 12:57:42 PM PST by SteveH (.)
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To: lodi90

exactly. mob rule backed up by a corrupt state


165 posted on 11/17/2021 1:01:42 PM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

he may have to declare a mistrial, without prejudice I think...


166 posted on 11/17/2021 1:03:44 PM PST by cherry
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To: crz
The jury hasnt the guts to make a decision IMO.

Yes. I concluded this also because it shouldn't have taken more than 2-4 hours.

Is the jury not able to view the videos in the jury room?

167 posted on 11/17/2021 1:05:46 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Riots? Are you guys KRAZY. They can’t riot over white guy shooting white guys!!
That would be totally racist. And no, I am not tagging this as sarcasm.


168 posted on 11/17/2021 1:05:56 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: EBH

Is it possible that the state prosecution really didn’t want to prosecute Kyle?

Is it possible the state, judge, jury are all terrified of the mob going crazy?

Was this all indeed a ‘show trial’ to appease the mob and it backfired?==============================

Yes and probable.
Yes and probable.
Probably.


169 posted on 11/17/2021 1:11:17 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: All

two points recently made on rekieta law

1. the juror who spoke back to the judge just before the private viewing of the fuzzy drone footage is presumed by some or many to be the fore-person of the jury since no one else would presumably have the temerity to talk back to the judge, and the fact that she is a woman combined with an undercurrent of so called upper class local yankee sentiment against KR does not bode well for a pro KR verdict

2. (the quartering) defense now has two bites of the apple with the reviewing of the fuzzy drone footage, so do not lose hope for KR

(this point was made a few minutes earlier) also, the final written jury instructions are allegedly wrong since they refer to considering 6 counts, but 2 of 7 counts have been dismissed


170 posted on 11/17/2021 1:32:41 PM PST by SteveH (.)
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To: Lion Den Dan

so was the prosecution then deliberately torpedoing its own case, in this view? (not sure i am getting it...)


171 posted on 11/17/2021 1:34:05 PM PST by SteveH (.)
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To: vivenne

Pretty sure it was a private company who has since close down the business.


172 posted on 11/17/2021 1:41:09 PM PST by Walmartian (Tagline Not Responding)
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To: TigerClaws

“Even the ‘high res’ version is unclear to me.”

The point of the inset is to show that Kyle IS NOT in a posture of pointing his rifle at the other individual in the frame. While Kyle’s EXACT posture isn’t crystal clear, it is at least clear that he does not have his rifle shouldered.

He actually appears to be facing toward the lower left of the frame, which — given most of the other footage of him just walking around — would mean he has his rifle diagonally downward across the front of his body. Basis what can be discerned of the blob that is Kyle in that frame, the shape of it is greatly supportive of that analysis, whereas not at all supportive of the Prosecutor’s assertion.


173 posted on 11/17/2021 2:01:20 PM PST by HKMk23 (The right of freedom of religion shall not be derogated even if the life of the nation is at stake.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Don’t look at me.

Why not?

Now if you were a red unicorn...

174 posted on 11/17/2021 2:16:31 PM PST by null and void (We can't be beaten unless we surrender, and we are NOT going to surrender!)
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To: ridesthemiles
IMO-—NO evidence should be withheld by the judge

Yes, generally true. However, evidence may be precluded from admission as a sanction, for example, when a party has a duty to disclose it and does not. Additionally, evidence may be precluded where the probative value is outweighed by the risk of undue prejudice. Let's say hypothetically there is document that proves Grosskreutz is a member of the Nazi party. The probity of this is it may tend to show his tendency to incite insurrection, as he was doing on the evening in question. It has only minimal relevance on the issue of self defense, while it will allow the defense to highlight the attacker was a racist and not a crusader. A judge could easily decide that the Nazi party evidence is not admissible, not because it is irrelevant, but because it is unduly prejudicial with minimal probative value.

175 posted on 11/17/2021 2:19:30 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I firmly believe the Biden Junta will swoop in if the outcome is not to their liking, and charge him with something. ouble jeopardy should preclude it, but they’ll call it a “civil rights” charge or something, to get their pound of flesh.


176 posted on 11/17/2021 2:27:56 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
I agree with you. I thought the Rittenhouse defense attorneys stank !

Good thing the law is on Kyle's side.

Leni

177 posted on 11/17/2021 2:37:20 PM PST by MinuteGal (MAGA !!! MAGA !!! MAGA !!!)
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To: joshua c
if was an fbi drone. i suspect they have hours of footage on all the riots.

Yup.

When the revolution is complete, it becomes time to eliminate all the rioters.

The new regime will NEVER make all their dreams come true, and they have the experience, the attitude, the desire, and the motivation to overthrow another regime...

178 posted on 11/17/2021 2:40:38 PM PST by null and void (We can't be beaten unless we surrender, and we are NOT going to surrender!)
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To: frithguild

Yup. There is supposedly a video somewhere out there of Kyle mentioning what he would like to do to shoplifters with his gun... not allowed into evidence. Binger tried to get to it by asking Kyle a question that would bring such a thought up. (I don’t remember the exact words.) Objected to and sustained.


179 posted on 11/17/2021 2:58:49 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: Antoninus

“I’m not sure it’s fear that’s motivating him. It’s the desire that the justice system actually work the way it’s supposed to.”

We are way past that, and he knows it. The persecutor has practically dared him to do something about their abuse of the system. by not allowing a change of venue or sequestering the jury, he has allowed the jury to be intimidated.


180 posted on 11/17/2021 2:58:59 PM PST by EastTexasTraveler
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