Posted on 12/30/2020 8:24:18 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
Larry Schweikart:
1) Just finished a discussion with a pro-Trump congressional source on procedures. Very high.
2) On Jan. 6, all that is needed is 1 senator (Hawley) and 1 Congressman (Brooks) to bring an objection to an elector slate (almost certainly AZ, since that will be the first contested.
3) The rules are made by the previous congress; the laws already in place bind the procedures.
4) Pence has no authority on his own to accept or reject any slate. According to source, he will turn to the Parliamentarian for a ruling on how to proceed.
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And in that closed door session, a deep state messenger will remind certain senators and representatives of their cozy relationship with the CCP and bank accounts in Hong Kong, trips to the Bahamas with Jeffrey Epstein, failures to report income on their tax returns, backroom visits to a certain pizza parlor in Washington D.C., or a family member who could get arrested at any moment for an untold crime.
We are supposed to pray, trust and go out on the limb...some quote stats, have so called inside info, and rely on human opinion. PDJT would never have imperiled his entire family if he wasn’t planned out. Think about that...they are imperiled if he doesn’t win.
I don’t care what Larry says, Larry appears to have stopped trusting the Source of all good.
“Who knew they were going to steal it ON election night in our faces.”
Are you serious? The Left was touting “Operation Red Mirage” for months before they pulled it off. Any Republican who didn’t see this coming is terribly, fatally naive.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=operation+red+mirage&t=chromentp&atb=v134-1&ia=web
[Here is one of the dozens of articles about it.]
Red Mirage or Blue Coup? Democrats and the Mail-in Ballot Campaign
Sep 14, 2020 / Townhall
Agree. Pls see 223.
Unfortunately, that's not the way the process of voting on written objections works. THAT process is a full vote by all 435 house members and 100 Senators, with the House and Senate voting separately.
The House and the Senate must agree to overturn the certified slate of electors from any state, which will obviously never happen.
As much as we all wish it were different, the scenario described by LS, "buzz kill" or not, is 100% correct.
It's over, gang - and it's been over since SCOTUS refused to take up the Texas case. Regardless of what any blog trying to drive clicks by writing breathless fantasy scenarios may be trying to convince us of otherwise.
I like Larry, but he and his experts have been wrong before. In this instance he wrongly claims that the House will not debate and will toss the objection in 30 seconds. From what I’ve read, that’s not true. Based on past precedent, any motion to table debate in the House is not allowed.
What is most discouraging about this is that I firmly believe that the very last, those who are going to stand up and fight, are outnumbered by every other class above them. I believe they are the smallest group.
If what we see and hear on Trump's (and the Constitution's) behalf, I have to believe that is true, and of all the things in the past five years that have really disillusioned me...it is that one thing. And it is why I take exception with part of the tenor of the article.
Trump is one of the very FEW, and is at the front of the people who have spoken out directly and acted forcefully against the foreign and domestic enemies of this country.
I appreciate the author's optimism that if Trump is indeed forced out, good things will come of it, but I am not inclined to think that is going to be the case. That is like saying being forced out of the frying pan and into the fire means you won't be eaten for dinner, as if that were a good thing in the end.
For once LS is correct. That is pretty much exactly what you can expect to happen. This election is not going to be decided in the courts or the legislature. It will take some form of executive action. Trump cannot possibly be ignorant of this. He has to let everything play out first. Otherwise they can scream he usurped the constitutional process.
The House only votes by state in a contingent election, which only happens if no candidate receives the vote of a majority of the electors appointed.
EXACTLY. Lara must be reading GP or one of the hundreds of other blogs posting nonsense on the entire process since Nov 4, as what she described is NOT how it works. The whole House - all 435 members - vote. (As does the Senate, separately). And as we all know how that vote will turn out, we need to start accepting reality that the objection process, while it will likely shed further light on just how corrupt this election was - will go NOWHERE in terms of "overturning" the result. Nor will Pence be able to do diddly about it. Constitution and Electoral law, for anyone who cares to get their own info vs reading some goofy blog, describes all of this in precise, unambiguous detail.
A real leader exerts authority. He takes control and manages in a crisis. Who is going to challenge Mike Pence if he does throw out those illegal EC votes? Certainly the courts will not.
I’m beyond disgusted at the defeatism.
It has been over since Gullianni’s hair melted on TV. From that point on the left was laughing at the Trump legal same. Sad, but true. I wish it were not so.
You are confusing two events.
In the event that no person has 270 electoral votes, the House votes BY DELEGATION among the top three picks.
This is not that. This is a Joint Session where one presumably does have 270 in which electoral slates are submitted by the states and an objection is raised by one congressman and one senator. In such an event, the House votes as a body, by MEMBER, as does the Senate.
And, yes, as per a respected congressman who has been through this scenario when Sheila Jackson Lee objected to Trump in 2016, the VP has no power. He REFERS the objection to the body, which divides and votes by member, on the objection after a debate of up to two hours.
Hope that clears it up.
My FRiend, on this my track record is perfect.
Four weeks ago I told all of you that the ONLY hope for Trump was to convince the state legislatures of MI, WI, AZ, PA, and GA to refuse to certify, that once they certified it was over.
Pence has no power. It’s amazing that this myth still has legs. If he did, there would be no need for a joint session of Congress-—the ballots would just be opened in front of the VP and that would be that.
I told everyone four weeks ago that the courts would NOT help. I said the USSC would absolutely NOT get involved. I said if you allowed the state legislatures to accept the governors’ certifications, you could not get it undone.
This was all confirmed with a congressperson last night, someone you would all greatly respect. This person said that after an objection is entertained, the House would return a rejection in 5 minutes, that the Senate “might” debate it, but that Trump would not come close to 51 votes. Thinking is closer to 10 to overturn a slate-—any slate.
I think said-—and this was borne out just yesterday, that Yertle and Botoxic would then try to limit all further objections from the floor. I don’t think that’s constitutional, but it really doesn’t matter does it?
The only place I’ve been wrong is that Yertle and Botoxic didn’t wait until the actual objections came: they are pre-emptively trying to get a deal to prohibit all objections. Again, doesn’t matter what the law and Constitution say if they have the numbers to force a vote through. On this, they may not in the senate-—but it will be close.
Check back in a week.
It is so blatantly obvious that "There is no evidence of a fradulent in the amount that could overturn the election" and then to be given 90 days to find evidence (other than statistical, which is indeed evidence), is a media disinformation campaign to steamroll the public into accepting the fraudulent election results. Even I, the blind squirrel can see that.
This isn’t 2004. But we’ll see.
I think you may be surprised at the extent to which the DemoKKKrats and willing RINOs will go to get rid of Trump asap.
But regardless, the debate is limited to 2 hours per objection. You’ll probably have a 5 minute debate in the House (rejection) and possibly 2 hours in the Senate (rejection). Ultimately, the Hawley/Brooks challenge will get (I think, hope I’m wrong) no more than 10 senators.
We quite agree on that.
At best, they will be typical incompetent leftist fools, destroy industry the last four years have carefully grown, and destroy the life savings of people through sheer ineptitude, much in the vein of Jimmy Carter.
At worst, they will use their power to destroy the Republic, rigging the system against fair elections, packing the courts, overtaxing citizens, taking their hard earned wealth, and returning us to a nation subservient to Communist Chinese economic interests.
Not to mention emboldening enemies who will see us as weak, predictable, and vulnerable, which will invite aggression and conflict.
Yep. He said his ways are not our ways.
“The GOP are cowards”
The GOP are not cowards as you and others claim, the GOP members who don’t support Trump ate Deep State and part of the Coup.
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